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  <title>Episode 185: In Your Brain, Nobody Can Hear You Scream</title>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://twitter.com/davidegts) and Gunnar (http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about) talk about reviving pig brains from the dead, making human-monkey chimeras, and whether we should be doing either
  Dave wears makeup (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6585135922847760384/)
  See Dave w/makeup on the IBM Government Cloud Virtual Summit Agenda - Special Hybrid Cloud Edition (https://www.ibm.com/cloud/government/virtualsummitagenda)
  Concepts (https://concepts.app/en/)
  This War of Mine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_War_of_Mine)
  The Great Courses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Courses) at Gunnar's library!
  Viewer mail: John Scott (https://twitter.com/johnmscott) writes on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6568144945134264321/) “The Chinese tried to do the same thing via Red Flag Linux (https://lnkd.in/ev_aKQd) - it didn't work. I would bet this (https://www.itweb.co.za/content/RgeVDMPolnd7KJN3) won't either, just way too much embedded IP in Android. + the Chinese way will be to blatantly rip off parts of the Android code base, meaning that down stream companies could be sued for IP violation by Google and others. Gunnar Hellekson David Egts might have some thoughts…”
  Follow up from D&amp;amp;G 165 (https://dgshow.org/165)… BrainEx: Scientists Are Giving Dead Brains New Life. What Could Go Wrong? (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/magazine/dead-pig-brains-reanimation.html)
  See also: Part-revived pig brains raise slew of ethical quandaries (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01168-9)
  'It just really ethically scares me': Caution urged as scientists look to create human-monkey chimeras (https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/it-just-really-ethically-scares-me-caution-urged-as-scientists-look-to-create-human-monkey-chimeras)
  Palate cleanser: This Robot Fish Powers Itself With Fake Blood (https://www.wired.com/story/this-robot-fish-powers-itself-with-fake-blood/)
Cutting Room Floor
*   Police warn against using gun-shaped cellphone cases after traffic stop encounter; cases are banned in Chicago (https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-gun-shaped-cell-phone-case-police-20190605-story.html)
*   Honestly, a Video Game That Strands You On a Boring Six-Hour Flight Is Just What I Need Right Now (https://gizmodo.com/honestly-a-video-game-that-strands-you-on-a-boring-six-1839717598)
We Give Thanks
*   John Scott (https://twitter.com/johnmscott)
*   The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about reviving pig brains from the dead, making human-monkey chimeras, and whether we should be doing either</p>

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<li>  Dave wears <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6585135922847760384/" rel="nofollow">makeup</a>

<ul>
<li>  See Dave w/makeup on the <a href="https://www.ibm.com/cloud/government/virtualsummitagenda" rel="nofollow">IBM Government Cloud Virtual Summit Agenda - Special Hybrid Cloud Edition</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://concepts.app/en/" rel="nofollow">Concepts</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_War_of_Mine" rel="nofollow">This War of Mine</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Courses" rel="nofollow">The Great Courses</a> at Gunnar&#39;s library!</li>
<li>  Viewer mail: <a href="https://twitter.com/johnmscott" rel="nofollow">John Scott</a> writes on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6568144945134264321/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> “The Chinese tried to do the same thing via Red Flag Linux (<a href="https://lnkd.in/ev_aKQd" rel="nofollow">https://lnkd.in/ev_aKQd</a>) - it didn&#39;t work. I would bet <a href="https://www.itweb.co.za/content/RgeVDMPolnd7KJN3" rel="nofollow">this</a> won&#39;t either, just way too much embedded IP in Android. + the Chinese way will be to blatantly rip off parts of the Android code base, meaning that down stream companies could be sued for IP violation by Google and others. Gunnar Hellekson David Egts might have some thoughts…”</li>
<li>  Follow up from <a href="https://dgshow.org/165" rel="nofollow">D&amp;G 165</a>… BrainEx: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/magazine/dead-pig-brains-reanimation.html" rel="nofollow">Scientists Are Giving Dead Brains New Life. What Could Go Wrong?</a>

<ul>
<li>  See also: <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01168-9" rel="nofollow">Part-revived pig brains raise slew of ethical quandaries</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/it-just-really-ethically-scares-me-caution-urged-as-scientists-look-to-create-human-monkey-chimeras" rel="nofollow">&#39;It just really ethically scares me&#39;: Caution urged as scientists look to create human-monkey chimeras</a></li>
<li>  Palate cleanser: <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/this-robot-fish-powers-itself-with-fake-blood/" rel="nofollow">This Robot Fish Powers Itself With Fake Blood</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-gun-shaped-cell-phone-case-police-20190605-story.html" rel="nofollow">Police warn against using gun-shaped cellphone cases after traffic stop encounter; cases are banned in Chicago</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://gizmodo.com/honestly-a-video-game-that-strands-you-on-a-boring-six-1839717598" rel="nofollow">Honestly, a Video Game That Strands You On a Boring Six-Hour Flight Is Just What I Need Right Now</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://twitter.com/johnmscott" rel="nofollow">John Scott</a></li>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about reviving pig brains from the dead, making human-monkey chimeras, and whether we should be doing either</p>

<ul>
<li>  Dave wears <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6585135922847760384/" rel="nofollow">makeup</a>

<ul>
<li>  See Dave w/makeup on the <a href="https://www.ibm.com/cloud/government/virtualsummitagenda" rel="nofollow">IBM Government Cloud Virtual Summit Agenda - Special Hybrid Cloud Edition</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://concepts.app/en/" rel="nofollow">Concepts</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_War_of_Mine" rel="nofollow">This War of Mine</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Courses" rel="nofollow">The Great Courses</a> at Gunnar&#39;s library!</li>
<li>  Viewer mail: <a href="https://twitter.com/johnmscott" rel="nofollow">John Scott</a> writes on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6568144945134264321/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> “The Chinese tried to do the same thing via Red Flag Linux (<a href="https://lnkd.in/ev_aKQd" rel="nofollow">https://lnkd.in/ev_aKQd</a>) - it didn&#39;t work. I would bet <a href="https://www.itweb.co.za/content/RgeVDMPolnd7KJN3" rel="nofollow">this</a> won&#39;t either, just way too much embedded IP in Android. + the Chinese way will be to blatantly rip off parts of the Android code base, meaning that down stream companies could be sued for IP violation by Google and others. Gunnar Hellekson David Egts might have some thoughts…”</li>
<li>  Follow up from <a href="https://dgshow.org/165" rel="nofollow">D&amp;G 165</a>… BrainEx: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/magazine/dead-pig-brains-reanimation.html" rel="nofollow">Scientists Are Giving Dead Brains New Life. What Could Go Wrong?</a>

<ul>
<li>  See also: <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01168-9" rel="nofollow">Part-revived pig brains raise slew of ethical quandaries</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/it-just-really-ethically-scares-me-caution-urged-as-scientists-look-to-create-human-monkey-chimeras" rel="nofollow">&#39;It just really ethically scares me&#39;: Caution urged as scientists look to create human-monkey chimeras</a></li>
<li>  Palate cleanser: <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/this-robot-fish-powers-itself-with-fake-blood/" rel="nofollow">This Robot Fish Powers Itself With Fake Blood</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-gun-shaped-cell-phone-case-police-20190605-story.html" rel="nofollow">Police warn against using gun-shaped cellphone cases after traffic stop encounter; cases are banned in Chicago</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://gizmodo.com/honestly-a-video-game-that-strands-you-on-a-boring-six-1839717598" rel="nofollow">Honestly, a Video Game That Strands You On a Boring Six-Hour Flight Is Just What I Need Right Now</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://twitter.com/johnmscott" rel="nofollow">John Scott</a></li>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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