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  <title>Episode 224: Smells Like Sauerkraut</title>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about the norms of dream coercion, the norms of encrypted messaging, and the norms of ransomware game theory
Bo Burnham’s “Inside” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU)
Foo Fighters at the ICON Music Center (https://iconmusiccenter.com/)
Are advertisers coming for your dreams? (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06/are-advertisers-coming-your-dreams)
Silent Lucidity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw) by Queensryche
Unrelated: Sleep Sensing on Nest Hub (2nd gen) (https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10357288)
Also unrelated: Amazon.com Wants to Monitor You in Your Sleep, for Your Benefit (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-09/amazon-com-wants-to-monitor-you-in-your-sleep-for-your-benefit)
We Got the Phone the FBI Secretly Sold to Criminals (https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7b4gg/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor)
Why everyone should use disappearing messages on WhatsApp and Signal (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-signal-disappearing-messages)
Related XKCD (https://xkcd.com/538/)
Opinion | Could Ransomware Become a Geopolitical Weapon? Game Theory Says Yes. (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/08/ransomware-game-theory-geopolitics-cyber-attack-498625)
Cutting Room Floor
* Smells Like Teen Spirit Cover In Classical Latin (75 BC to 3rd Century AD) Bardcore (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk)
* Frozen’s “Let It Go” Performed in Klingon (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/606709/frozens-let-it-go-in-klingon)
    * “Don’t Stop Believin’” Performed in Klingon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOJoOtk7Scw)
* Subterranean Homesick Blues Performed in a Regional Jet Restroom (https://www.openculture.com/2021/06/the-airline-toilets-theatre-company.html) as performed by the Airline Toilets Theatre Company (and member of the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain (https://www.ukuleleorchestra.com/))
* ”Take on Me” Performed by Face Smacking (https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/o137d0/oc_i_discovered_that_i_can_play_a_melody_by/)
* Sublime Text (https://what-i-got.glitch.me/) to get What I Got
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
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  <itunes:keywords>Bo Burnham, Inside, Foo Fighters, ICON Music Center, advertising, lucid dreams, lucid dreaming, Silent Lucidity, Queensryche, Nest Hub, Amazon, Alexa, FBI, criminals, Anom, Android, WhatsApp, Signal, ephemeral messaging, XKCD, ransomware, geopolitics, Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit, Latin, Frozen, Let It Go, Journey, Don't Stop Believin', Klingon, Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues, regional jet restrooms, a-ha, Take on Me, face smacking, Sublime, What I got</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about the norms of dream coercion, the norms of encrypted messaging, and the norms of ransomware game theory</p>

<ul>
<li>Bo Burnham’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU" rel="nofollow">“Inside”</a></li>
<li>Foo Fighters at the <a href="https://iconmusiccenter.com/" rel="nofollow">ICON Music Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06/are-advertisers-coming-your-dreams" rel="nofollow">Are advertisers coming for your dreams?</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw" rel="nofollow">Silent Lucidity</a> by Queensryche</li>
<li>Unrelated: <a href="https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10357288" rel="nofollow">Sleep Sensing on Nest Hub (2nd gen)</a></li>
<li>Also unrelated: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-09/amazon-com-wants-to-monitor-you-in-your-sleep-for-your-benefit" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com Wants to Monitor You in Your Sleep, for Your Benefit</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7b4gg/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor" rel="nofollow">We Got the Phone the FBI Secretly Sold to Criminals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-signal-disappearing-messages" rel="nofollow">Why everyone should use disappearing messages on WhatsApp and Signal</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://xkcd.com/538/" rel="nofollow">Related XKCD</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/08/ransomware-game-theory-geopolitics-cyber-attack-498625" rel="nofollow">Opinion | Could Ransomware Become a Geopolitical Weapon? Game Theory Says Yes.</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk" rel="nofollow">Smells Like Teen Spirit Cover In Classical Latin (75 BC to 3rd Century AD) Bardcore</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/606709/frozens-let-it-go-in-klingon" rel="nofollow">Frozen’s “Let It Go” Performed in Klingon</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOJoOtk7Scw" rel="nofollow">“Don’t Stop Believin’” Performed in Klingon</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2021/06/the-airline-toilets-theatre-company.html" rel="nofollow">Subterranean Homesick Blues Performed in a Regional Jet Restroom</a> as performed by the Airline Toilets Theatre Company (and member of <a href="https://www.ukuleleorchestra.com/" rel="nofollow">the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/o137d0/oc_i_discovered_that_i_can_play_a_melody_by/" rel="nofollow">”Take on Me” Performed by Face Smacking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://what-i-got.glitch.me/" rel="nofollow">Sublime Text</a> to get What I Got</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about the norms of dream coercion, the norms of encrypted messaging, and the norms of ransomware game theory</p>

<ul>
<li>Bo Burnham’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU" rel="nofollow">“Inside”</a></li>
<li>Foo Fighters at the <a href="https://iconmusiccenter.com/" rel="nofollow">ICON Music Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06/are-advertisers-coming-your-dreams" rel="nofollow">Are advertisers coming for your dreams?</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw" rel="nofollow">Silent Lucidity</a> by Queensryche</li>
<li>Unrelated: <a href="https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10357288" rel="nofollow">Sleep Sensing on Nest Hub (2nd gen)</a></li>
<li>Also unrelated: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-09/amazon-com-wants-to-monitor-you-in-your-sleep-for-your-benefit" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com Wants to Monitor You in Your Sleep, for Your Benefit</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7b4gg/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor" rel="nofollow">We Got the Phone the FBI Secretly Sold to Criminals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-signal-disappearing-messages" rel="nofollow">Why everyone should use disappearing messages on WhatsApp and Signal</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://xkcd.com/538/" rel="nofollow">Related XKCD</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/08/ransomware-game-theory-geopolitics-cyber-attack-498625" rel="nofollow">Opinion | Could Ransomware Become a Geopolitical Weapon? Game Theory Says Yes.</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk" rel="nofollow">Smells Like Teen Spirit Cover In Classical Latin (75 BC to 3rd Century AD) Bardcore</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/606709/frozens-let-it-go-in-klingon" rel="nofollow">Frozen’s “Let It Go” Performed in Klingon</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOJoOtk7Scw" rel="nofollow">“Don’t Stop Believin’” Performed in Klingon</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2021/06/the-airline-toilets-theatre-company.html" rel="nofollow">Subterranean Homesick Blues Performed in a Regional Jet Restroom</a> as performed by the Airline Toilets Theatre Company (and member of <a href="https://www.ukuleleorchestra.com/" rel="nofollow">the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/o137d0/oc_i_discovered_that_i_can_play_a_melody_by/" rel="nofollow">”Take on Me” Performed by Face Smacking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://what-i-got.glitch.me/" rel="nofollow">Sublime Text</a> to get What I Got</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 163: Gaia Hypothesis, But for Email</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2018 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about: discrimination paranoia, microphone paranoia, more microphone paranoia, and rhetorical paranoia. Finally: vacation message protocol.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>38:31</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://twitter.com/davidegts) and Gunnar (http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about) talk about: discrimination paranoia, microphone paranoia, more microphone paranoia, and rhetorical paranoia. Finally: vacation message protocol.
Lesson learned: do the Safari (http://girafferanch.com/)
Lesson learned: 4 years old don’t care about American History
Lesson learned: Tracksmith running shorts + swim trunks (https://www.tracksmith.com/products/m-2018-run-cannonball-run-shorts)
Props to Debbie, Stow’s Public Service Supervisor, and the Stow Street Department (https://stowohio.org/departments/)
Facebook, Amazon, and hundreds of companies post targeted job ads that screen out older workers (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/31/17408884/facebook-amazon-job-ads-age-discrimination-lawsuit)
Amazon wants to automate your hotel stay with Alexa for Hospitality (https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3034430/amazon-wants-to-automate-your-hotel-stay-with-alexa-for-hospitality)
These Academics Spent The Last Year Testing Whether Your Phone Is Secretly Listening To You (https://gizmodo.com/these-academics-spent-the-last-year-testing-whether-you-1826961188)
Your Phone Is Listening and it's Not Paranoia (https://www.vice.com/amp/en_au/article/wjbzzy/your-phone-is-listening-and-its-not-paranoia)
IBM’s Newest AI Can Probably Argue Better Than You (https://www.wired.com/story/now-the-computer-can-argue-with-you/amp)
The Most Honest Out-of-Office Message (https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/06/out-of-office-message-email/562394/)
Cutting Room Floor
* Bread can be made from a gangrenous wound's bacteria (https://boingboing.net/2018/06/22/bread-can-be-made-from-a-gangr.html/amp)
* The Story of a Voice: HAL in ‘2001’ Wasn’t Always So Eerily Calm (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/30/movies/hal-2001-a-space-odyssey-voice-douglas-rain.html)
* 24-Channel Raspberry Pi Fireworks Control System (http://moderntoil.com/?p=913)
* ‘Skirmish Time Is Now!’: 6 Mediocre Catchphrases Michael Buffer Dabbled With Before Landing On ‘Let’s Get Ready To Rumble’ (https://www.clickhole.com/skirmish-time-is-now-6-mediocre-catchphrases-michae-1825612838)
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>safaris, hippos, giraffes, Tracksmith, Stow, D&amp;I, diversity, Alexa for Hospitality, Alexa, Marriott, Facebook, surveillance, IBM, Watson, email hygiene</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about: discrimination paranoia, microphone paranoia, more microphone paranoia, and rhetorical paranoia. Finally: vacation message protocol.</p>

<ul>
<li>Lesson learned: <a href="http://girafferanch.com/" rel="nofollow">do the Safari</a></li>
<li>Lesson learned: 4 years old don’t care about American History</li>
<li>Lesson learned: Tracksmith <a href="https://www.tracksmith.com/products/m-2018-run-cannonball-run-shorts" rel="nofollow">running shorts + swim trunks</a></li>
<li>Props to Debbie, Stow’s Public Service Supervisor, and the <a href="https://stowohio.org/departments/" rel="nofollow">Stow Street Department</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/31/17408884/facebook-amazon-job-ads-age-discrimination-lawsuit" rel="nofollow">Facebook, Amazon, and hundreds of companies post targeted job ads that screen out older workers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3034430/amazon-wants-to-automate-your-hotel-stay-with-alexa-for-hospitality" rel="nofollow">Amazon wants to automate your hotel stay with Alexa for Hospitality</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/these-academics-spent-the-last-year-testing-whether-you-1826961188" rel="nofollow">These Academics Spent The Last Year Testing Whether Your Phone Is Secretly Listening To You</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/amp/en_au/article/wjbzzy/your-phone-is-listening-and-its-not-paranoia" rel="nofollow">Your Phone Is Listening and it&#39;s Not Paranoia</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/now-the-computer-can-argue-with-you/amp" rel="nofollow">IBM’s Newest AI Can Probably Argue Better Than You</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/06/out-of-office-message-email/562394/" rel="nofollow">The Most Honest Out-of-Office Message</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://boingboing.net/2018/06/22/bread-can-be-made-from-a-gangr.html/amp" rel="nofollow">Bread can be made from a gangrenous wound&#39;s bacteria</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/30/movies/hal-2001-a-space-odyssey-voice-douglas-rain.html" rel="nofollow">The Story of a Voice: HAL in ‘2001’ Wasn’t Always So Eerily Calm</a></li>
<li><a href="http://moderntoil.com/?p=913" rel="nofollow">24-Channel Raspberry Pi Fireworks Control System</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.clickhole.com/skirmish-time-is-now-6-mediocre-catchphrases-michae-1825612838" rel="nofollow">‘Skirmish Time Is Now!’: 6 Mediocre Catchphrases Michael Buffer Dabbled With Before Landing On ‘Let’s Get Ready To Rumble’</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about: discrimination paranoia, microphone paranoia, more microphone paranoia, and rhetorical paranoia. Finally: vacation message protocol.</p>

<ul>
<li>Lesson learned: <a href="http://girafferanch.com/" rel="nofollow">do the Safari</a></li>
<li>Lesson learned: 4 years old don’t care about American History</li>
<li>Lesson learned: Tracksmith <a href="https://www.tracksmith.com/products/m-2018-run-cannonball-run-shorts" rel="nofollow">running shorts + swim trunks</a></li>
<li>Props to Debbie, Stow’s Public Service Supervisor, and the <a href="https://stowohio.org/departments/" rel="nofollow">Stow Street Department</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/31/17408884/facebook-amazon-job-ads-age-discrimination-lawsuit" rel="nofollow">Facebook, Amazon, and hundreds of companies post targeted job ads that screen out older workers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3034430/amazon-wants-to-automate-your-hotel-stay-with-alexa-for-hospitality" rel="nofollow">Amazon wants to automate your hotel stay with Alexa for Hospitality</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/these-academics-spent-the-last-year-testing-whether-you-1826961188" rel="nofollow">These Academics Spent The Last Year Testing Whether Your Phone Is Secretly Listening To You</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/amp/en_au/article/wjbzzy/your-phone-is-listening-and-its-not-paranoia" rel="nofollow">Your Phone Is Listening and it&#39;s Not Paranoia</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/now-the-computer-can-argue-with-you/amp" rel="nofollow">IBM’s Newest AI Can Probably Argue Better Than You</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/06/out-of-office-message-email/562394/" rel="nofollow">The Most Honest Out-of-Office Message</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://boingboing.net/2018/06/22/bread-can-be-made-from-a-gangr.html/amp" rel="nofollow">Bread can be made from a gangrenous wound&#39;s bacteria</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/30/movies/hal-2001-a-space-odyssey-voice-douglas-rain.html" rel="nofollow">The Story of a Voice: HAL in ‘2001’ Wasn’t Always So Eerily Calm</a></li>
<li><a href="http://moderntoil.com/?p=913" rel="nofollow">24-Channel Raspberry Pi Fireworks Control System</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.clickhole.com/skirmish-time-is-now-6-mediocre-catchphrases-michae-1825612838" rel="nofollow">‘Skirmish Time Is Now!’: 6 Mediocre Catchphrases Michael Buffer Dabbled With Before Landing On ‘Let’s Get Ready To Rumble’</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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