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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Apple”</title>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2022 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
    <description>David Egts and Gunnar Hellekson discuss privacy, security, robots, and internet ephemera.
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    <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
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  <title>Episode 241: Apple-Inspired Feedbag</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about Apple-inspired VR devices, keyboards, and Tobasco sauce!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>25:51</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about Apple-inspired VR devices, keyboards, and Tobasco sauce!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Karate!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;In the metaverse, no one can hear you scream: &lt;a href="https://gizmodo.com/muzzle-microphone-headset-mutalk-noise-isolating-ar-vr-1849511121" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bizarre Muzzle Microphone Keeps Your Mouth in the Metaverse&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sold out: &lt;a href="https://www.dollarshaveclub.com/lp/cargoswim" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Cargo swim briefs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://gizmodo.com/website-can-track-mechanical-keyboard-typing-just-by-li-1848890545" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;This Website Can Figure Out What You're Typing Just By Listening to Your Loud Mechanical Keyboard&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Kinesis Advantage360&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/type-on-any-surface-with-the-typeanywhere-fingers-only-keyboard-15e85cb64218" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Type on Any Surface with the TypeAnywhere Fingers-Only Keyboard&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Related: &lt;a href="https://freedrum.rocks/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Free Drum&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/05/31/tabasco-hot-sauce-bottle-last-supper-painting/7454703001/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;How did a bottle of Tabasco sauce find its way into a painting of the Last Supper?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.aiweirdness.com/bonus-halloween-candy-by-state/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;What does DALL-E2 generate when I ask it for the most popular Halloween candy of each US state?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://huggingface.co/spaces/pharma/CLIP-Interrogator" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;CLIP Interrogator&lt;/a&gt;: Want to figure out what a good prompt might be to create new images like an existing one? The CLIP Interrogator is here to get you answers!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.wired.com/story/vrchat-kmart-employees-store/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Clocking In at the Virtual Reality Kmart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln_88HHXJ04" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Kmart 1973 Reel to Reel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about Apple-inspired VR devices, keyboards, and Tobasco sauce!</p>

<ul>
<li>Karate!</li>
<li>In the metaverse, no one can hear you scream: <a href="https://gizmodo.com/muzzle-microphone-headset-mutalk-noise-isolating-ar-vr-1849511121" rel="nofollow">Bizarre Muzzle Microphone Keeps Your Mouth in the Metaverse</a></li>
<li>Sold out: <a href="https://www.dollarshaveclub.com/lp/cargoswim" rel="nofollow">Cargo swim briefs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/website-can-track-mechanical-keyboard-typing-just-by-li-1848890545" rel="nofollow">This Website Can Figure Out What You&#39;re Typing Just By Listening to Your Loud Mechanical Keyboard</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/" rel="nofollow">Kinesis Advantage360</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/type-on-any-surface-with-the-typeanywhere-fingers-only-keyboard-15e85cb64218" rel="nofollow">Type on Any Surface with the TypeAnywhere Fingers-Only Keyboard</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://freedrum.rocks/" rel="nofollow">Free Drum</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/05/31/tabasco-hot-sauce-bottle-last-supper-painting/7454703001/" rel="nofollow">How did a bottle of Tabasco sauce find its way into a painting of the Last Supper?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.aiweirdness.com/bonus-halloween-candy-by-state/" rel="nofollow">What does DALL-E2 generate when I ask it for the most popular Halloween candy of each US state?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://huggingface.co/spaces/pharma/CLIP-Interrogator" rel="nofollow">CLIP Interrogator</a>: Want to figure out what a good prompt might be to create new images like an existing one? The CLIP Interrogator is here to get you answers!</li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/vrchat-kmart-employees-store/" rel="nofollow">Clocking In at the Virtual Reality Kmart</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln_88HHXJ04" rel="nofollow">Kmart 1973 Reel to Reel</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about Apple-inspired VR devices, keyboards, and Tobasco sauce!</p>

<ul>
<li>Karate!</li>
<li>In the metaverse, no one can hear you scream: <a href="https://gizmodo.com/muzzle-microphone-headset-mutalk-noise-isolating-ar-vr-1849511121" rel="nofollow">Bizarre Muzzle Microphone Keeps Your Mouth in the Metaverse</a></li>
<li>Sold out: <a href="https://www.dollarshaveclub.com/lp/cargoswim" rel="nofollow">Cargo swim briefs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/website-can-track-mechanical-keyboard-typing-just-by-li-1848890545" rel="nofollow">This Website Can Figure Out What You&#39;re Typing Just By Listening to Your Loud Mechanical Keyboard</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/" rel="nofollow">Kinesis Advantage360</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/type-on-any-surface-with-the-typeanywhere-fingers-only-keyboard-15e85cb64218" rel="nofollow">Type on Any Surface with the TypeAnywhere Fingers-Only Keyboard</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://freedrum.rocks/" rel="nofollow">Free Drum</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/05/31/tabasco-hot-sauce-bottle-last-supper-painting/7454703001/" rel="nofollow">How did a bottle of Tabasco sauce find its way into a painting of the Last Supper?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.aiweirdness.com/bonus-halloween-candy-by-state/" rel="nofollow">What does DALL-E2 generate when I ask it for the most popular Halloween candy of each US state?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://huggingface.co/spaces/pharma/CLIP-Interrogator" rel="nofollow">CLIP Interrogator</a>: Want to figure out what a good prompt might be to create new images like an existing one? The CLIP Interrogator is here to get you answers!</li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/vrchat-kmart-employees-store/" rel="nofollow">Clocking In at the Virtual Reality Kmart</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln_88HHXJ04" rel="nofollow">Kmart 1973 Reel to Reel</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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  <title>Episode 225: Criminal Value Chain</title>
  <link>https://dgshow.org/225</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about backdoor innovation, gig economy innovation, and retro deep work innovation
</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>48:09</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about backdoor innovation, gig economy innovation, and deep work retro innovation&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_ergonomic_keyboards" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Microsoft Natural Keyboards&lt;/a&gt; are not water-resistant&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mini-metro/id837860959" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mini Metro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://gizmodo.com/critics-say-apple-built-a-backdoor-into-your-iphone-wit-1847438624" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Critics Say Apple Built a 'Backdoor' Into Your iPhone With Its New Child Abuse Detection Tools&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Related: &lt;a href="https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/the-ceo-of-whatsapp-attacked-apple-over-privacy-he-seems-to-have-forgotten-he-works-for-facebook.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The CEO of WhatsApp Attacked Apple Over Privacy. He Seems to Have Forgotten He Works for Facebook&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;“The nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation also &lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2021/08/06/snowden-eff-slam-plan-to-scan-messages-images/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;critical&lt;/a&gt; Apple’s plans, stating that “even a carefully documented, carefully thought out, close-range backdoor is still a backdoor.” – &lt;a href="https://roxxcloud.com/apple-publishes-faq-to-address-csam-detection-and-message-analysis-issues/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Apple publishes FAQ to address CSAM detection and message analysis issues&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://gizmodo.com/citizen-wants-to-pay-you-25-an-hour-to-be-a-nightcrawl-1847363924" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Citizen Wants to Pay You $25 an Hour to Be a Nightcrawler&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawler_(film)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Nightcrawler (film)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB6Sqhvm8l8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Vigilante app&lt;/a&gt; video&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://petapixel.com/2021/06/26/photo-app-turns-users-into-unwitting-spies-for-us-military/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Photo App Turns Users Into Unwitting Spies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.openculture.com/2021/05/the-isolator-a-1925-helmet-designed-to-eliminate-distractions.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Isolator: A 1925 Helmet Designed to Eliminate Distractions &amp;amp; Increase Productivity (Created by SciFi Pioneer Hugo Gernsback)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/649087/latin-insults" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;20 Latin Insults You Should Know&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://shashiirk.github.io/fake-tweet-generator/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Fake Tweet Generator&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://clickhole.com/remote-work-ftw-logitech-has-released-a-wireless-mouse-that-works-from-900-miles-away/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Remote Work FTW: Logitech Has Released A Wireless Mouse That Works From 900 Miles Away&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Microsoft Natural Keyboards, Mini Metro, Apple, backdoors, iMessage, iCloud, iCloud Photos, WhatsApp, EFF, Electronic Frontier Foundation, CSAM, Citizen, Nightcrawler, Vigilante, espionage, gig economy, The Isolator, Latin insults, Latin, fake tweet generator, wireless mice</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about backdoor innovation, gig economy innovation, and deep work retro innovation</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_ergonomic_keyboards" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Natural Keyboards</a> are not water-resistant</li>
<li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mini-metro/id837860959" rel="nofollow">Mini Metro</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/critics-say-apple-built-a-backdoor-into-your-iphone-wit-1847438624" rel="nofollow">Critics Say Apple Built a &#39;Backdoor&#39; Into Your iPhone With Its New Child Abuse Detection Tools</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/the-ceo-of-whatsapp-attacked-apple-over-privacy-he-seems-to-have-forgotten-he-works-for-facebook.html" rel="nofollow">The CEO of WhatsApp Attacked Apple Over Privacy. He Seems to Have Forgotten He Works for Facebook</a>

<ul>
<li>“The nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation also <a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2021/08/06/snowden-eff-slam-plan-to-scan-messages-images/" rel="nofollow">critical</a> Apple’s plans, stating that “even a carefully documented, carefully thought out, close-range backdoor is still a backdoor.” – <a href="https://roxxcloud.com/apple-publishes-faq-to-address-csam-detection-and-message-analysis-issues/" rel="nofollow">Apple publishes FAQ to address CSAM detection and message analysis issues</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/citizen-wants-to-pay-you-25-an-hour-to-be-a-nightcrawl-1847363924" rel="nofollow">Citizen Wants to Pay You $25 an Hour to Be a Nightcrawler</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawler_(film)" rel="nofollow">Nightcrawler (film)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB6Sqhvm8l8" rel="nofollow">Vigilante app</a> video</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://petapixel.com/2021/06/26/photo-app-turns-users-into-unwitting-spies-for-us-military/" rel="nofollow">Photo App Turns Users Into Unwitting Spies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2021/05/the-isolator-a-1925-helmet-designed-to-eliminate-distractions.html" rel="nofollow">The Isolator: A 1925 Helmet Designed to Eliminate Distractions &amp; Increase Productivity (Created by SciFi Pioneer Hugo Gernsback)</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/649087/latin-insults" rel="nofollow">20 Latin Insults You Should Know</a></li>
<li><a href="https://shashiirk.github.io/fake-tweet-generator/" rel="nofollow">Fake Tweet Generator</a></li>
<li><a href="https://clickhole.com/remote-work-ftw-logitech-has-released-a-wireless-mouse-that-works-from-900-miles-away/" rel="nofollow">Remote Work FTW: Logitech Has Released A Wireless Mouse That Works From 900 Miles Away</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about backdoor innovation, gig economy innovation, and deep work retro innovation</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_ergonomic_keyboards" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Natural Keyboards</a> are not water-resistant</li>
<li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mini-metro/id837860959" rel="nofollow">Mini Metro</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/critics-say-apple-built-a-backdoor-into-your-iphone-wit-1847438624" rel="nofollow">Critics Say Apple Built a &#39;Backdoor&#39; Into Your iPhone With Its New Child Abuse Detection Tools</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/the-ceo-of-whatsapp-attacked-apple-over-privacy-he-seems-to-have-forgotten-he-works-for-facebook.html" rel="nofollow">The CEO of WhatsApp Attacked Apple Over Privacy. He Seems to Have Forgotten He Works for Facebook</a>

<ul>
<li>“The nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation also <a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2021/08/06/snowden-eff-slam-plan-to-scan-messages-images/" rel="nofollow">critical</a> Apple’s plans, stating that “even a carefully documented, carefully thought out, close-range backdoor is still a backdoor.” – <a href="https://roxxcloud.com/apple-publishes-faq-to-address-csam-detection-and-message-analysis-issues/" rel="nofollow">Apple publishes FAQ to address CSAM detection and message analysis issues</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/citizen-wants-to-pay-you-25-an-hour-to-be-a-nightcrawl-1847363924" rel="nofollow">Citizen Wants to Pay You $25 an Hour to Be a Nightcrawler</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawler_(film)" rel="nofollow">Nightcrawler (film)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB6Sqhvm8l8" rel="nofollow">Vigilante app</a> video</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://petapixel.com/2021/06/26/photo-app-turns-users-into-unwitting-spies-for-us-military/" rel="nofollow">Photo App Turns Users Into Unwitting Spies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2021/05/the-isolator-a-1925-helmet-designed-to-eliminate-distractions.html" rel="nofollow">The Isolator: A 1925 Helmet Designed to Eliminate Distractions &amp; Increase Productivity (Created by SciFi Pioneer Hugo Gernsback)</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/649087/latin-insults" rel="nofollow">20 Latin Insults You Should Know</a></li>
<li><a href="https://shashiirk.github.io/fake-tweet-generator/" rel="nofollow">Fake Tweet Generator</a></li>
<li><a href="https://clickhole.com/remote-work-ftw-logitech-has-released-a-wireless-mouse-that-works-from-900-miles-away/" rel="nofollow">Remote Work FTW: Logitech Has Released A Wireless Mouse That Works From 900 Miles Away</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 192: The Future Is Here and Everything Needs to Be Destroyed</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about the pros and cons of virus tracking, health data tracking, robot cooks, and word choice</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>49:03</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about the pros and cons of virus tracking, health data tracking, robot cooks, and word choice&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  Rehanging a door == &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_You_Give_a_Mouse_a_Cookie" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;If You Give a Mouse a Cookie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://instacart.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instacart&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.samsclub.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Sam’s Club&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/dispatch-numbers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Radiolab Dispatch&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  Viewer mail: Adam Fuhrer says… Hey David, just wanted to say thanks for mentioning &lt;a href="https://colors.lol/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;colors.lol&lt;/a&gt; on your podcast. Love the show! Hope you're doing well.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/04/apple-and-google-detail-bold-and-ambitious-plan-to-track-covid-19-at-scale/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Apple and Google detail bold and ambitious plan to track COVID-19 at scale&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/singapore-introduces-contact-tracing-app-to-slow-coronavirus-spread/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Singapore introduces contact tracing app to slow coronavirus spread&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://gizmodo.com/goodrx-shares-my-prescriptions-with-third-parties-and-i-1841772965" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GoodRx Shares My Prescriptions With Third Parties—and It's Perfectly Legal&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-02-27/flippy-fast-food-restaurant-robot-arm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Making French fries sucks. This robot does it for $3 an hour with no breaks&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.themeritocracytrap.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Meritocracy Trap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/dec/04/would-you-be-willing-words-turn-conversation-around" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;'Would you be willing?': words to turn a conversation around (and those to avoid)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://nonviolentcommunication.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Nonviolent Communication&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://imisstheoffice.eu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;IMissTheOffice&lt;/a&gt;: an ambient noise generator specializing in recreating the pre-coronavirus audial world of fluorescent lights, watercooler conversation, and beeping office electronics&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://amazondating.co/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Amazon Dating&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  Best motto ever: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/lifewinning/status/778728396499013634" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Allegheny Shredders&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamfuhrer/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Adam Fuhrer&lt;/a&gt; for &lt;a href="https://colors.lol/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;colors.lol&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>If You Give a Mouse a Cookie, Instacart, Sam's Club, Radiolab, colors.lol, Apple, Google, COVID-19, Singapore, GoodRx, robot cooks, The Meritocracy Trap,  word choice, Nonviolent Communication, IMissTheOffice, Amazon Dating, Allegheny Shredders</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about the pros and cons of virus tracking, health data tracking, robot cooks, and word choice</p>

<ul>
<li>  Rehanging a door == <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_You_Give_a_Mouse_a_Cookie" rel="nofollow">If You Give a Mouse a Cookie</a></em></li>
<li>  <a href="https://instacart.com/" rel="nofollow">Instacart</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.samsclub.com/" rel="nofollow">Sam’s Club</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/dispatch-numbers" rel="nofollow">Radiolab Dispatch</a></li>
<li>  Viewer mail: Adam Fuhrer says… Hey David, just wanted to say thanks for mentioning <a href="https://colors.lol/" rel="nofollow">colors.lol</a> on your podcast. Love the show! Hope you&#39;re doing well.</li>
<li>  <a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/04/apple-and-google-detail-bold-and-ambitious-plan-to-track-covid-19-at-scale/" rel="nofollow">Apple and Google detail bold and ambitious plan to track COVID-19 at scale</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/singapore-introduces-contact-tracing-app-to-slow-coronavirus-spread/" rel="nofollow">Singapore introduces contact tracing app to slow coronavirus spread</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://gizmodo.com/goodrx-shares-my-prescriptions-with-third-parties-and-i-1841772965" rel="nofollow">GoodRx Shares My Prescriptions With Third Parties—and It&#39;s Perfectly Legal</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-02-27/flippy-fast-food-restaurant-robot-arm" rel="nofollow">Making French fries sucks. This robot does it for $3 an hour with no breaks</a>

<ul>
<li>  <em><a href="https://www.themeritocracytrap.com/" rel="nofollow">The Meritocracy Trap</a></em></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/dec/04/would-you-be-willing-words-turn-conversation-around" rel="nofollow">&#39;Would you be willing?&#39;: words to turn a conversation around (and those to avoid)</a>

<ul>
<li>  <em><a href="https://nonviolentcommunication.com/" rel="nofollow">Nonviolent Communication</a></em></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://imisstheoffice.eu/" rel="nofollow">IMissTheOffice</a>: an ambient noise generator specializing in recreating the pre-coronavirus audial world of fluorescent lights, watercooler conversation, and beeping office electronics</li>
<li>  <a href="https://amazondating.co/" rel="nofollow">Amazon Dating</a></li>
<li>  Best motto ever: <a href="https://twitter.com/lifewinning/status/778728396499013634" rel="nofollow">Allegheny Shredders</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamfuhrer/" rel="nofollow">Adam Fuhrer</a> for <a href="https://colors.lol/" rel="nofollow">colors.lol</a></li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about the pros and cons of virus tracking, health data tracking, robot cooks, and word choice</p>

<ul>
<li>  Rehanging a door == <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_You_Give_a_Mouse_a_Cookie" rel="nofollow">If You Give a Mouse a Cookie</a></em></li>
<li>  <a href="https://instacart.com/" rel="nofollow">Instacart</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.samsclub.com/" rel="nofollow">Sam’s Club</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/dispatch-numbers" rel="nofollow">Radiolab Dispatch</a></li>
<li>  Viewer mail: Adam Fuhrer says… Hey David, just wanted to say thanks for mentioning <a href="https://colors.lol/" rel="nofollow">colors.lol</a> on your podcast. Love the show! Hope you&#39;re doing well.</li>
<li>  <a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/04/apple-and-google-detail-bold-and-ambitious-plan-to-track-covid-19-at-scale/" rel="nofollow">Apple and Google detail bold and ambitious plan to track COVID-19 at scale</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/singapore-introduces-contact-tracing-app-to-slow-coronavirus-spread/" rel="nofollow">Singapore introduces contact tracing app to slow coronavirus spread</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://gizmodo.com/goodrx-shares-my-prescriptions-with-third-parties-and-i-1841772965" rel="nofollow">GoodRx Shares My Prescriptions With Third Parties—and It&#39;s Perfectly Legal</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-02-27/flippy-fast-food-restaurant-robot-arm" rel="nofollow">Making French fries sucks. This robot does it for $3 an hour with no breaks</a>

<ul>
<li>  <em><a href="https://www.themeritocracytrap.com/" rel="nofollow">The Meritocracy Trap</a></em></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/dec/04/would-you-be-willing-words-turn-conversation-around" rel="nofollow">&#39;Would you be willing?&#39;: words to turn a conversation around (and those to avoid)</a>

<ul>
<li>  <em><a href="https://nonviolentcommunication.com/" rel="nofollow">Nonviolent Communication</a></em></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://imisstheoffice.eu/" rel="nofollow">IMissTheOffice</a>: an ambient noise generator specializing in recreating the pre-coronavirus audial world of fluorescent lights, watercooler conversation, and beeping office electronics</li>
<li>  <a href="https://amazondating.co/" rel="nofollow">Amazon Dating</a></li>
<li>  Best motto ever: <a href="https://twitter.com/lifewinning/status/778728396499013634" rel="nofollow">Allegheny Shredders</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamfuhrer/" rel="nofollow">Adam Fuhrer</a> for <a href="https://colors.lol/" rel="nofollow">colors.lol</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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