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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Caffeine”</title>
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    <description>David Egts and Gunnar Hellekson discuss privacy, security, robots, and internet ephemera.
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  <title>Episode 282: He Sent Me Chicken Ramen</title>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about agents battling agents, electric shocks battling coffee, and Amazon Prime battling First Class mail!
Gunnar is now fully agentic. Skills and the inner loop. Capital vs Labor. Capital wins again.  
La-Z-Boy repair tip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siOyoyg4QwA) + free parts ($16 S&amp;amp;H)  
~~Clawdbot~~ → ~~Moltbot~~ → OpenClaw (https://openclaw.ai/)  
Moltbook (https://www.moltbook.com/)  
Moltbook leaked Andrej Karpathy’s API keys (https://www.reddit.com/r/AgentsOfAI/comments/1qsy5so/moltbook_leaked_andrej_karpathys_api_keys/)  
MOLTBOOK EXPOSED: The New AI Scam That Fooled Everyone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpuDMLrzpQc)  
D&amp;amp;G Mailbag via Erich Morisse (https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/): The Clanker Games (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7423758648633589760/)  
Fun fact: Clanker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clanker)  
A Viral Chinese Wristband Claims to Zap You Awake. The Public Says 'No Thanks’ (https://www.wired.com/story/viral-chinese-wristband-claims-to-zap-you-awake/)  
WAT Medical product page (https://www.watmedical.com/shop/)  
Postal Arbitrage (https://walzr.com/postal-arbitrage)
We Give Thanks
* Erich Morisse (https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/) for the Clanker Games tip! 
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  <itunes:keywords>AI, agentic AI, skills, Todoist, La-Z-Boy, home repairs, free parts, Clawdbot, Moltbot, OpenClaw, IFTTT, Moltbook, vibe coding, clankers, The Clanker Games, Claude Code, Codex, OpenCode, Amp, Pi Agent, Factory Droid, wearables, Aura rings, Apple Watches, caffeine, eCoffee Energyband, WAT Medical, reducing obesity, obesity, headaches, stimulation, nausea, postal arbitrage, Amazon Prime, ramen</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about agents battling agents, electric shocks battling coffee, and Amazon Prime battling First Class mail!</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar is now fully agentic. Skills and the inner loop. Capital vs Labor. Capital wins again.<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siOyoyg4QwA" rel="nofollow">La-Z-Boy repair tip</a> + free parts ($16 S&amp;H)<br></li>
<li><del>Clawdbot</del> → <del>Moltbot</del> → <a href="https://openclaw.ai/" rel="nofollow">OpenClaw</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.moltbook.com/" rel="nofollow">Moltbook</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AgentsOfAI/comments/1qsy5so/moltbook_leaked_andrej_karpathys_api_keys/" rel="nofollow">Moltbook leaked Andrej Karpathy’s API keys</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpuDMLrzpQc" rel="nofollow">MOLTBOOK EXPOSED: The New AI Scam That Fooled Everyone</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>D&amp;G Mailbag via <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/" rel="nofollow">Erich Morisse</a>: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7423758648633589760/" rel="nofollow">The Clanker Games</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Fun fact: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clanker" rel="nofollow">Clanker</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/viral-chinese-wristband-claims-to-zap-you-awake/" rel="nofollow">A Viral Chinese Wristband Claims to Zap You Awake. The Public Says &#39;No Thanks’</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.watmedical.com/shop/" rel="nofollow">WAT Medical product page</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://walzr.com/postal-arbitrage" rel="nofollow">Postal Arbitrage</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/" rel="nofollow">Erich Morisse</a> for the Clanker Games tip!</li>
</ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about agents battling agents, electric shocks battling coffee, and Amazon Prime battling First Class mail!</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar is now fully agentic. Skills and the inner loop. Capital vs Labor. Capital wins again.<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siOyoyg4QwA" rel="nofollow">La-Z-Boy repair tip</a> + free parts ($16 S&amp;H)<br></li>
<li><del>Clawdbot</del> → <del>Moltbot</del> → <a href="https://openclaw.ai/" rel="nofollow">OpenClaw</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.moltbook.com/" rel="nofollow">Moltbook</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AgentsOfAI/comments/1qsy5so/moltbook_leaked_andrej_karpathys_api_keys/" rel="nofollow">Moltbook leaked Andrej Karpathy’s API keys</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpuDMLrzpQc" rel="nofollow">MOLTBOOK EXPOSED: The New AI Scam That Fooled Everyone</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>D&amp;G Mailbag via <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/" rel="nofollow">Erich Morisse</a>: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7423758648633589760/" rel="nofollow">The Clanker Games</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Fun fact: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clanker" rel="nofollow">Clanker</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/viral-chinese-wristband-claims-to-zap-you-awake/" rel="nofollow">A Viral Chinese Wristband Claims to Zap You Awake. The Public Says &#39;No Thanks’</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.watmedical.com/shop/" rel="nofollow">WAT Medical product page</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://walzr.com/postal-arbitrage" rel="nofollow">Postal Arbitrage</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/" rel="nofollow">Erich Morisse</a> for the Clanker Games tip!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 249: Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp; Cheddar Wrap</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2023 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>29:59</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!
Dreamforce (https://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/)
Foo Fighters and furry mosh pit (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7108090477257641985/)
Who Are the Salesforce Characters? (https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/)
Caffeine 2, Dave 0
Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites (https://awakechocolate.com/products/peanut-butter-chocolate-bites)
Panera Charged Lemonade (https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/lemonade-chargers.html)
Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons) with AI!
Computer chip with built-in human brain tissue gets military funding (https://newatlas.com/computers/human-brain-chip-ai/)
Supermarket AI meal planner app suggests recipe that would create chlorine gas (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/10/pak-n-save-savey-meal-bot-ai-app-malfunction-recipes)
Related:
Simpsons Trampoline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKqZZynW9E)
Amazon Kitchen Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp;amp; Cheddar Wrap (https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13pqnno/lorem_ipsum_everywhere/)
Tokyo Coffee Shop Introduces Standing Nap Pods (https://themessenger.com/tech/japans-standing-nap-pods-nescafe-harajuku-sleep-girrafenap)
$165 Airplane Face Rest Promises a More Comfortable Flight (https://gizmodo.com/trurest-airplane-pillow-kickstarter-expensive-sleep-for-1850500021)
The Heilmeier Catechism (https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/heilmeier-catechism)
See also:
Crafting Better Proposals Using the Heilmeier Catechism (https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/ordc/Resources/heilmeier-catechism.php)
Catalyzing Innovation in Health &amp;amp; Medicine with Renee Wegrzyn, PhD at Ginkgo Ferment 2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDj_SByQKc)
Cutting Room Floor
* Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Soup Nazi and Elaine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuvaqovm8c)
* Hand Grenade Throwing as a College Sport (https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/hand_grenade_throwing_as_a_college_sport)
* Listen to Werner Herzog Read a Book of AI Poetry (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/style/werner-herzog-ai-poetry.html)
    * Free sample (https://www.facebook.com/littlebrownandcompany/videos/678835610362311/)
    * Also: Werner Herzog reviews Trader Joe’s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YW-5Flkiuw)
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Salesforce, Dreamforce, Foo Fighters, caffeine, Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites, Panera, Panera Bread, Panera Charged Lemonade, Dungeons &amp; Dragons, AI, computer chips, brain cells, supermarkets, recipies, The Simpsons, Amazon Kitchen, Lorem Ipsum, nap pods, TruRest, Heilmeier Catechism, ARPA, ARPA-H, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Soup Nazi, Seinfeld, Elaine, hand grenades, sports, Werner Herzog, Trader Joe's, Yelp</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/" rel="nofollow">Dreamforce</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7108090477257641985/" rel="nofollow">Foo Fighters and furry mosh pit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/" rel="nofollow">Who Are the Salesforce Characters?</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Caffeine 2, Dave 0

<ul>
<li><a href="https://awakechocolate.com/products/peanut-butter-chocolate-bites" rel="nofollow">Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/lemonade-chargers.html" rel="nofollow">Panera Charged Lemonade</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons" rel="nofollow">Dungeons &amp; Dragons</a> with AI!</li>
<li><a href="https://newatlas.com/computers/human-brain-chip-ai/" rel="nofollow">Computer chip with built-in human brain tissue gets military funding</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/10/pak-n-save-savey-meal-bot-ai-app-malfunction-recipes" rel="nofollow">Supermarket AI meal planner app suggests recipe that would create chlorine gas</a>

<ul>
<li>Related:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKqZZynW9E" rel="nofollow">Simpsons Trampoline</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13pqnno/lorem_ipsum_everywhere/" rel="nofollow">Amazon Kitchen Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp; Cheddar Wrap</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://themessenger.com/tech/japans-standing-nap-pods-nescafe-harajuku-sleep-girrafenap" rel="nofollow">Tokyo Coffee Shop Introduces Standing Nap Pods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/trurest-airplane-pillow-kickstarter-expensive-sleep-for-1850500021" rel="nofollow">$165 Airplane Face Rest Promises a More Comfortable Flight</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/heilmeier-catechism" rel="nofollow">The Heilmeier Catechism</a>

<ul>
<li>See also:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/ordc/Resources/heilmeier-catechism.php" rel="nofollow">Crafting Better Proposals Using the Heilmeier Catechism</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDj_SByQKc" rel="nofollow">Catalyzing Innovation in Health &amp; Medicine with Renee Wegrzyn, PhD at Ginkgo Ferment 2023</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuvaqovm8c" rel="nofollow">Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Soup Nazi and Elaine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/hand_grenade_throwing_as_a_college_sport" rel="nofollow">Hand Grenade Throwing as a College Sport</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/style/werner-herzog-ai-poetry.html" rel="nofollow">Listen to Werner Herzog Read a Book of AI Poetry</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/littlebrownandcompany/videos/678835610362311/" rel="nofollow">Free sample</a></li>
<li>Also: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YW-5Flkiuw" rel="nofollow">Werner Herzog reviews Trader Joe’s</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/" rel="nofollow">Dreamforce</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7108090477257641985/" rel="nofollow">Foo Fighters and furry mosh pit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/" rel="nofollow">Who Are the Salesforce Characters?</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Caffeine 2, Dave 0

<ul>
<li><a href="https://awakechocolate.com/products/peanut-butter-chocolate-bites" rel="nofollow">Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/lemonade-chargers.html" rel="nofollow">Panera Charged Lemonade</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons" rel="nofollow">Dungeons &amp; Dragons</a> with AI!</li>
<li><a href="https://newatlas.com/computers/human-brain-chip-ai/" rel="nofollow">Computer chip with built-in human brain tissue gets military funding</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/10/pak-n-save-savey-meal-bot-ai-app-malfunction-recipes" rel="nofollow">Supermarket AI meal planner app suggests recipe that would create chlorine gas</a>

<ul>
<li>Related:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKqZZynW9E" rel="nofollow">Simpsons Trampoline</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13pqnno/lorem_ipsum_everywhere/" rel="nofollow">Amazon Kitchen Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp; Cheddar Wrap</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://themessenger.com/tech/japans-standing-nap-pods-nescafe-harajuku-sleep-girrafenap" rel="nofollow">Tokyo Coffee Shop Introduces Standing Nap Pods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/trurest-airplane-pillow-kickstarter-expensive-sleep-for-1850500021" rel="nofollow">$165 Airplane Face Rest Promises a More Comfortable Flight</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/heilmeier-catechism" rel="nofollow">The Heilmeier Catechism</a>

<ul>
<li>See also:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/ordc/Resources/heilmeier-catechism.php" rel="nofollow">Crafting Better Proposals Using the Heilmeier Catechism</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDj_SByQKc" rel="nofollow">Catalyzing Innovation in Health &amp; Medicine with Renee Wegrzyn, PhD at Ginkgo Ferment 2023</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuvaqovm8c" rel="nofollow">Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Soup Nazi and Elaine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/hand_grenade_throwing_as_a_college_sport" rel="nofollow">Hand Grenade Throwing as a College Sport</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/style/werner-herzog-ai-poetry.html" rel="nofollow">Listen to Werner Herzog Read a Book of AI Poetry</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/littlebrownandcompany/videos/678835610362311/" rel="nofollow">Free sample</a></li>
<li>Also: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YW-5Flkiuw" rel="nofollow">Werner Herzog reviews Trader Joe’s</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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