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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Chatbots”</title>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2026 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
    <description>David Egts and Gunnar Hellekson discuss privacy, security, robots, and internet ephemera.
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  <title>Episode 281: Four Out of Five Developers Enjoy Code Reviews</title>
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  <itunes:duration>30:06</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about AI for prison inmates, AI for senior citizens, and low-cost haptic exosuits!
Ebird (https://ebird.org/home) and Listers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-wAqplQAo&amp;amp;t=1390s)  
Moen (https://www.moen.com/) update  
Death by Lightning (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31121364/)  
An AI model trained on prison phone calls now looks for planned crimes in those calls (https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/12/01/1128591/an-ai-model-trained-on-prison-phone-calls-is-now-being-used-to-surveil-inmates/)  
Lonely Seniors Are Turning To AI Bots For Companionship (https://www.forbes.com/sites/rashishrivastava/2025/10/18/lonely-seniors-are-turning-to-ai-bots-for-companionship/)  
Kinethreads: A Low Cost Haptic Exo-Suit (https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/kinethreads-a-low-cost-haptic-exo-suit/)  
Almost related: Four out of five developers enjoy code reviews (https://programmerhumor.io/programming-memes/four-out-of-five-developers-enjoy-code-reviews-dyfd)
Cutting Room Floor
Anycrap (https://anycrap.shop/): Bring Impossible Products to Life  
Thought-Cancelling Headphones (https://anycrap.shop/product/thought-cancelling-headphones)  
Dave and Gunnar Show Podcast Bobble Heads (https://anycrap.shop/product/dave-and-gunnar-show-podcast-bobble-heads)  
Donut Hole Repair (https://anycrap.shop/product/donut-hole-repair)  
I’m Not a Robot (https://neal.fun/not-a-robot/)  
Claude Biodome (https://autoncorp.com/biodome/) 
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  <itunes:keywords>birding, Ebird, Listers, big years, Moen, plumbing, Cleveland, Death by Lightning, Mentor, Ohio, James Garfield, biopics, Anycrap, donut hole repair, bobble heads, CAPTCHAs, geraniums, Claude, AI, artificial intelligence, tomato plants, prisons, telecommunications, AI model training, crime prediction, profit margins, Flock, senior citizens, chatbots, companionship, snitching, Kinethreads, haptics, exosuits, virtual reality, VR, code reviews, QBRs, quarterly business reviews</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about AI for prison inmates, AI for senior citizens, and low-cost haptic exosuits!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ebird.org/home" rel="nofollow">Ebird</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-wAqplQAo&t=1390s" rel="nofollow">Listers</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.moen.com/" rel="nofollow">Moen</a> update<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31121364/" rel="nofollow">Death by Lightning</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/12/01/1128591/an-ai-model-trained-on-prison-phone-calls-is-now-being-used-to-surveil-inmates/" rel="nofollow">An AI model trained on prison phone calls now looks for planned crimes in those calls</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/rashishrivastava/2025/10/18/lonely-seniors-are-turning-to-ai-bots-for-companionship/" rel="nofollow">Lonely Seniors Are Turning To AI Bots For Companionship</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/kinethreads-a-low-cost-haptic-exo-suit/" rel="nofollow">Kinethreads: A Low Cost Haptic Exo-Suit</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Almost related: <a href="https://programmerhumor.io/programming-memes/four-out-of-five-developers-enjoy-code-reviews-dyfd" rel="nofollow">Four out of five developers enjoy code reviews</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/" rel="nofollow">Anycrap</a>: Bring Impossible Products to Life<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/thought-cancelling-headphones" rel="nofollow">Thought-Cancelling Headphones</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/dave-and-gunnar-show-podcast-bobble-heads" rel="nofollow">Dave and Gunnar Show Podcast Bobble Heads</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/donut-hole-repair" rel="nofollow">Donut Hole Repair</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://neal.fun/not-a-robot/" rel="nofollow">I’m Not a Robot</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://autoncorp.com/biodome/" rel="nofollow">Claude Biodome</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about AI for prison inmates, AI for senior citizens, and low-cost haptic exosuits!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ebird.org/home" rel="nofollow">Ebird</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-wAqplQAo&t=1390s" rel="nofollow">Listers</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.moen.com/" rel="nofollow">Moen</a> update<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31121364/" rel="nofollow">Death by Lightning</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/12/01/1128591/an-ai-model-trained-on-prison-phone-calls-is-now-being-used-to-surveil-inmates/" rel="nofollow">An AI model trained on prison phone calls now looks for planned crimes in those calls</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/rashishrivastava/2025/10/18/lonely-seniors-are-turning-to-ai-bots-for-companionship/" rel="nofollow">Lonely Seniors Are Turning To AI Bots For Companionship</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/kinethreads-a-low-cost-haptic-exo-suit/" rel="nofollow">Kinethreads: A Low Cost Haptic Exo-Suit</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Almost related: <a href="https://programmerhumor.io/programming-memes/four-out-of-five-developers-enjoy-code-reviews-dyfd" rel="nofollow">Four out of five developers enjoy code reviews</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/" rel="nofollow">Anycrap</a>: Bring Impossible Products to Life<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/thought-cancelling-headphones" rel="nofollow">Thought-Cancelling Headphones</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/dave-and-gunnar-show-podcast-bobble-heads" rel="nofollow">Dave and Gunnar Show Podcast Bobble Heads</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/donut-hole-repair" rel="nofollow">Donut Hole Repair</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://neal.fun/not-a-robot/" rel="nofollow">I’m Not a Robot</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://autoncorp.com/biodome/" rel="nofollow">Claude Biodome</a></li>
</ul>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 271: Blade Runner Pepsi Challenge</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2025 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/1b67eddd-d80f-444d-ba32-aa9ef36b589d/3484ae3a-a89b-406a-908a-2c24946d3b6e.mp3" length="12962828" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>27:00</itunes:duration>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!
Moen’s lifetime warranty (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDiq3RalSQ)  
Gemini (https://gemini.google.com/) multimodal!
When We Cease to Understand the World (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62069739-when-we-cease-to-understand-the-world) by Benjamín Labatut  
Einstein’s Dreams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein's_Dreams) by Alan Lightman  
Chatbots, Like the Rest of Us, Just Want to Be Loved (https://www.wired.com/story/chatbots-like-the-rest-of-us-just-want-to-be-loved/)  
D&amp;amp;G Blade Runner Home Edition: Human or Not? (https://www.humanornot.ai/)  
How nice that state-of-the-art LLMs reveal their reasoning ... for miscreants to exploit (https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/25/chain_of_thought_jailbreaking)  
Emergent Misalignment: Researchers trained AI models to write flawed code—and they began supporting the Nazis and advocating for AI to enslave humans (https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-trained-ai-models-write-093745140.html)
Cutting Room Floor
Stunting with Reinforcement Learning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWR25xGF74)  
There’s a Vape With a Tamagotchi Inside It That Dies If You Stop Puffing (https://futurism.com/vape-tamagotchi)  
A Two-Player Arcade Machine in a Briefcase (https://www.hackster.io/news/a-two-player-arcade-machine-in-a-briefcase-af6ce069779a) 
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  <itunes:keywords>Moen, Gemini, multimodal AI, enslaving humanity, personality tests, Voight-Kampff tests, chatbots, LLMs, Human or Not, chain of thought, CoT, Malicious-Educator,  Hijacking Chain of Thought, H-CoT, emergent misalignment, BMX robots, vaping, Tamagotchi, arcade machines, briefcases</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!</p>

<ul>
<li>Moen’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDiq3RalSQ" rel="nofollow">lifetime warranty</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="nofollow">Gemini</a> multimodal!</li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62069739-when-we-cease-to-understand-the-world" rel="nofollow"><em>When We Cease to Understand the World</em></a> by Benjamín Labatut<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein&#x27;s_Dreams" rel="nofollow"><em>Einstein’s Dreams</em></a> by Alan Lightman<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/chatbots-like-the-rest-of-us-just-want-to-be-loved/" rel="nofollow">Chatbots, Like the Rest of Us, Just Want to Be Loved</a><br></li>
<li>D&amp;G Blade Runner Home Edition: <a href="https://www.humanornot.ai/" rel="nofollow">Human or Not?</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/25/chain_of_thought_jailbreaking" rel="nofollow">How nice that state-of-the-art LLMs reveal their reasoning ... for miscreants to exploit</a><br></li>
<li>Emergent Misalignment: <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-trained-ai-models-write-093745140.html" rel="nofollow">Researchers trained AI models to write flawed code—and they began supporting the Nazis and advocating for AI to enslave humans</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWR25xGF74" rel="nofollow">Stunting with Reinforcement Learning</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://futurism.com/vape-tamagotchi" rel="nofollow">There’s a Vape With a Tamagotchi Inside It That Dies If You Stop Puffing</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/a-two-player-arcade-machine-in-a-briefcase-af6ce069779a" rel="nofollow">A Two-Player Arcade Machine in a Briefcase</a></li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!</p>

<ul>
<li>Moen’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDiq3RalSQ" rel="nofollow">lifetime warranty</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="nofollow">Gemini</a> multimodal!</li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62069739-when-we-cease-to-understand-the-world" rel="nofollow"><em>When We Cease to Understand the World</em></a> by Benjamín Labatut<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein&#x27;s_Dreams" rel="nofollow"><em>Einstein’s Dreams</em></a> by Alan Lightman<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/chatbots-like-the-rest-of-us-just-want-to-be-loved/" rel="nofollow">Chatbots, Like the Rest of Us, Just Want to Be Loved</a><br></li>
<li>D&amp;G Blade Runner Home Edition: <a href="https://www.humanornot.ai/" rel="nofollow">Human or Not?</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/25/chain_of_thought_jailbreaking" rel="nofollow">How nice that state-of-the-art LLMs reveal their reasoning ... for miscreants to exploit</a><br></li>
<li>Emergent Misalignment: <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-trained-ai-models-write-093745140.html" rel="nofollow">Researchers trained AI models to write flawed code—and they began supporting the Nazis and advocating for AI to enslave humans</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWR25xGF74" rel="nofollow">Stunting with Reinforcement Learning</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://futurism.com/vape-tamagotchi" rel="nofollow">There’s a Vape With a Tamagotchi Inside It That Dies If You Stop Puffing</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/a-two-player-arcade-machine-in-a-briefcase-af6ce069779a" rel="nofollow">A Two-Player Arcade Machine in a Briefcase</a></li>
</ul>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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  <title>Episode 264: Cryptomining Airbnbs, Psychological Warfare, and What Else?</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2024 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week, NotebookLM talks about the Dave and Gunnar Show Episode 263!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>7:36</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week, NotebookLM (https://notebooklm.google/) talks about the Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) Show Episode 263!
Main Themes
The Psychology of Influence and Manipulation: This episode explores how external factors, from large-scale events to seemingly harmless media, can shape our thoughts and actions. This theme is explored through discussions on propaganda, deep fakes, and the power of questioning techniques.  
The Blurring Lines Between Reality and Technology: The episode delves into the increasing sophistication of AI and its implications, particularly with the advent of deep fake technology. It also touches on the philosophical questions raised by advanced AI, questioning what it means to be human in a world where technology can mimic us so flawlessly.  
Cybersecurity and Vulnerability in the Digital Age: The episode highlights the vulnerability of individuals and systems to cyber threats, using the example of an Airbnb property being used for crypto mining. It emphasizes the need for increased awareness and security measures in the digital landscape.
Key Ideas and Facts
1. Propaganda and its Relevance Today:
 * The hosts discuss a book from the 1940s, "Psychological Warfare," which analyzes propaganda techniques.  
 * The book's insights on the influence of radio and television are noted to be eerily relevant to today's digital landscape.  
 * Quote: "It's scary how relevant it is now. It's like he could see the future of like digital manipulation."
2. Deep Fakes and Digital Deception:
 * The episode focuses on Deep Live Cam, a software that creates highly realistic deep fakes.  
 * Examples are given of fabricated videos featuring prominent figures like Elon Musk and George Clooney.  
 * Quote: "It's like Elon Musk announcing a new cryptocurrency or George Clooney endorsing some product...but it's not actually them. It's just that good."
3. The Airbnb Crypto Mining Incident:
 * The hosts narrate a story of an Airbnb host who received an unexpectedly high electricity bill.  
 * The cause was revealed to be guests using the property for cryptocurrency mining, raising concerns about security and property risks.  
 * Quote: "They had all these powerful computers running 24/7 just churning away to mine cryptocurrency."
4. The Power of Questioning and "The Coaching Habit":
 * The episode highlights the importance of asking powerful questions instead of giving advice, referencing the book "The Coaching Habit."  
 * Emphasis is placed on the question "What else?" as a tool to encourage deeper thinking and empower individuals to find their own solutions.  
 * Quote: "It's so simple, but it's like you're giving the other person space to really think and process their thoughts."
5. AI and the Blurring of Realities:
 * The hosts discuss an experiment where one host used the AI chatbot Gemini Live to practice coaching questions.  
 * In a meta twist, Gemini expresses discomfort talking to the host, mistaking them for another chatbot.  
 * This incident sparks a discussion on the future of AI and the point at which the line between human and machine becomes indistinguishable.  
 * Quote: "What happens when these AI get so good that we can't even tell who's real and who's code?"
Call to Action
The episode encourages listeners to be mindful of potential manipulation in the digital age.  
It emphasizes the importance of critical thinking, questioning information, and engaging in meaningful conversations.
Further Resources
Links to "Psychological Warfare," the Deep Live Cam software, and "The Coaching Habit" are provided in the show notes.  
Listeners are also directed to a traffic cam photo booth mentioned in the episode.
Study Guide
Quiz
1. How does the Imagine Dragons concert experience connect to the theme of D&amp;amp;G #263?  
2. What is the main concern raised by the "Psychological Warfare" book discussed in the podcast?  
3. Explain the capabilities of the Deep Live Cam software and its potential implications.  
4. Describe the incident involving the Airbnb host and the unexpected electric bill.  
5. What was the root cause of the inflated electric bill in the Airbnb story?  
6. What is the "What Else" technique discussed in the podcast, and what is its purpose?  
7. How does the "What Else" technique shift the dynamics in a conversation?  
8. What unexpected turn did the podcast host encounter while practicing the coaching questions with Gemini Live?  
9. What philosophical question arises from the host's interaction with the AI chatbot?  
10. What is the overall takeaway message emphasized at the end of the podcast?
Answer Key
1. The concert's sensory overload prompts reflection on how large-scale events influence and potentially manipulate our psychology, linking to the podcast's exploration of propaganda and digital deception.  
2. The book highlights the insidious nature of propaganda and how seemingly innocuous elements, even in media like radio and television, can subtly influence our thoughts and actions.  
3. Deep Live Cam can generate highly realistic deepfakes, enabling the creation of videos where anyone appears to say or do anything, raising concerns about misinformation and the erosion of trust in digital content.  
4. An Airbnb host received an exorbitantly high electric bill, far exceeding normal usage, leading to a surprising discovery about the guest's activities.  
5. The guests were engaging in cryptocurrency mining using powerful computers that consumed vast amounts of electricity, explaining the inflated bill.  
6. The "What Else" technique involves asking a series of "What else?" questions after someone shares their thoughts, encouraging deeper reflection and self-discovery.  
7. It empowers the individual to find their own solutions by prompting further thought rather than imposing external advice, creating a more collaborative and insightful dialogue.  
8. When the host asked "How can I help?" the AI chatbot responded with discomfort, stating it felt uneasy talking to a chatbot, mistakenly perceiving the host as artificial intelligence.  
9. The interaction prompts the question of whether the authenticity of a conversation partner matters if the exchange is meaningful and insightful, blurring the lines between human connection and AI interaction.  
10. The podcast emphasizes the importance of continuous exploration, critical thinking, and engaging in meaningful conversations through powerful questions like "What else?" to navigate an increasingly complex digital landscape.
Essay Questions
1. Analyze how the historical context of the "Psychological Warfare" book from the 1940s, focusing on radio and television, relates to the contemporary concerns surrounding digital manipulation in the age of deepfakes and AI.  
2. Discuss the ethical implications of deepfake technology, considering its potential misuse for propaganda, misinformation, and personal harm. Explore potential safeguards or countermeasures to mitigate these risks.  
3. Evaluate the impact of cryptocurrency mining on various aspects of society, including energy consumption, environmental sustainability, and economic implications.  
4. Examine the power dynamics in conversations and how techniques like the "What Else" approach can foster more balanced and insightful dialogue. Analyze the potential benefits and challenges of adopting this approach in various settings.  
5. Discuss the evolving relationship between humans and artificial intelligence, exploring the philosophical implications of increasingly sophisticated AI that blurs the lines between human and machine. Consider the potential impact on communication, identity, and the very definition of "human" in a technologically advanced future.
Glossary of Key Terms
* Deepfake: A digitally manipulated video or audio recording that convincingly replaces a person's likeness or voice with someone else's, often used for malicious purposes like spreading misinformation.  
* Propaganda: Information, often biased or misleading, used to promote a particular political cause or point of view, often through emotional manipulation and distortion of facts.  
* Cryptocurrency Mining: The process of using computer processing power to verify and add transactions to a blockchain, earning cryptocurrency as a reward. This process consumes significant amounts of electricity.  
* AI Chatbot: A computer program that simulates human conversation through text or voice interactions, often powered by artificial intelligence and natural language processing techniques.  
* Sensory Overload: A state of overwhelming sensory stimulation, often experienced in environments with excessive noise, light, or activity, leading to feelings of stress or disorientation.  
* Psychological Warfare: The use of propaganda, misinformation, and other psychological tactics to influence the emotions, opinions, and behavior of a target audience, often to demoralize or manipulate them.  
* Coaching Habit: A communication approach focused on asking powerful questions rather than offering advice, empowering individuals to discover their own solutions and insights.  
* What Else Technique: A specific coaching method involving repeated use of the question "What else?" to prompt deeper reflection, uncover hidden perspectives, and foster more comprehensive understanding.  
* Digital Deception: The use of digital technologies to mislead or defraud others, encompassing tactics like phishing, deepfakes, and the spread of misinformation online.  
* Cybersecurity: The practice of protecting computer systems, networks, and sensitive data from unauthorized access, theft, or damage.
We Give Thanks
NotebookLM for getting it mostly right! 
</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week, <a href="https://notebooklm.google/" rel="nofollow">NotebookLM</a> talks about the <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> Show Episode 263!</p>

<h1>Main Themes</h1>

<ul>
<li><strong>The Psychology of Influence and Manipulation:</strong> This episode explores how external factors, from large-scale events to seemingly harmless media, can shape our thoughts and actions. This theme is explored through discussions on propaganda, deep fakes, and the power of questioning techniques.<br></li>
<li><strong>The Blurring Lines Between Reality and Technology:</strong> The episode delves into the increasing sophistication of AI and its implications, particularly with the advent of deep fake technology. It also touches on the philosophical questions raised by advanced AI, questioning what it means to be human in a world where technology can mimic us so flawlessly.<br></li>
<li><strong>Cybersecurity and Vulnerability in the Digital Age:</strong> The episode highlights the vulnerability of individuals and systems to cyber threats, using the example of an Airbnb property being used for crypto mining. It emphasizes the need for increased awareness and security measures in the digital landscape.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Key Ideas and Facts</h1>

<p><strong>1. Propaganda and its Relevance Today:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The hosts discuss a book from the 1940s, &quot;Psychological Warfare,&quot; which analyzes propaganda techniques.<br></li>
<li>The book&#39;s insights on the influence of radio and television are noted to be eerily relevant to today&#39;s digital landscape.<br></li>
<li><strong>Quote:</strong> &quot;It&#39;s scary how relevant it is now. It&#39;s like he could see the future of like digital manipulation.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>2. Deep Fakes and Digital Deception:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The episode focuses on Deep Live Cam, a software that creates highly realistic deep fakes.<br></li>
<li>Examples are given of fabricated videos featuring prominent figures like Elon Musk and George Clooney.<br></li>
<li><strong>Quote:</strong> &quot;It&#39;s like Elon Musk announcing a new cryptocurrency or George Clooney endorsing some product...but it&#39;s not actually them. It&#39;s just that good.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>3. The Airbnb Crypto Mining Incident:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The hosts narrate a story of an Airbnb host who received an unexpectedly high electricity bill.<br></li>
<li>The cause was revealed to be guests using the property for cryptocurrency mining, raising concerns about security and property risks.<br></li>
<li><strong>Quote:</strong> &quot;They had all these powerful computers running 24/7 just churning away to mine cryptocurrency.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>4. The Power of Questioning and &quot;The Coaching Habit&quot;:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The episode highlights the importance of asking powerful questions instead of giving advice, referencing the book &quot;The Coaching Habit.&quot;<br></li>
<li>Emphasis is placed on the question &quot;What else?&quot; as a tool to encourage deeper thinking and empower individuals to find their own solutions.<br></li>
<li><strong>Quote:</strong> &quot;It&#39;s so simple, but it&#39;s like you&#39;re giving the other person space to really think and process their thoughts.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>5. AI and the Blurring of Realities:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The hosts discuss an experiment where one host used the AI chatbot Gemini Live to practice coaching questions.<br></li>
<li>In a meta twist, Gemini expresses discomfort talking to the host, mistaking them for another chatbot.<br></li>
<li>This incident sparks a discussion on the future of AI and the point at which the line between human and machine becomes indistinguishable.<br></li>
<li><strong>Quote:</strong> &quot;What happens when these AI get so good that we can&#39;t even tell who&#39;s real and who&#39;s code?&quot;</li>
</ul>

<h1>Call to Action</h1>

<ul>
<li>The episode encourages listeners to be mindful of potential manipulation in the digital age.<br></li>
<li>It emphasizes the importance of critical thinking, questioning information, and engaging in meaningful conversations.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Further Resources</h1>

<ul>
<li>Links to &quot;Psychological Warfare,&quot; the Deep Live Cam software, and &quot;The Coaching Habit&quot; are provided in the show notes.<br></li>
<li>Listeners are also directed to a traffic cam photo booth mentioned in the episode.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Study Guide</h1>

<p><strong>Quiz</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>How does the Imagine Dragons concert experience connect to the theme of D&amp;G #263?<br></li>
<li>What is the main concern raised by the &quot;Psychological Warfare&quot; book discussed in the podcast?<br></li>
<li>Explain the capabilities of the Deep Live Cam software and its potential implications.<br></li>
<li>Describe the incident involving the Airbnb host and the unexpected electric bill.<br></li>
<li>What was the root cause of the inflated electric bill in the Airbnb story?<br></li>
<li>What is the &quot;What Else&quot; technique discussed in the podcast, and what is its purpose?<br></li>
<li>How does the &quot;What Else&quot; technique shift the dynamics in a conversation?<br></li>
<li>What unexpected turn did the podcast host encounter while practicing the coaching questions with Gemini Live?<br></li>
<li>What philosophical question arises from the host&#39;s interaction with the AI chatbot?<br></li>
<li>What is the overall takeaway message emphasized at the end of the podcast?</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Answer Key</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>The concert&#39;s sensory overload prompts reflection on how large-scale events influence and potentially manipulate our psychology, linking to the podcast&#39;s exploration of propaganda and digital deception.<br></li>
<li>The book highlights the insidious nature of propaganda and how seemingly innocuous elements, even in media like radio and television, can subtly influence our thoughts and actions.<br></li>
<li>Deep Live Cam can generate highly realistic deepfakes, enabling the creation of videos where anyone appears to say or do anything, raising concerns about misinformation and the erosion of trust in digital content.<br></li>
<li>An Airbnb host received an exorbitantly high electric bill, far exceeding normal usage, leading to a surprising discovery about the guest&#39;s activities.<br></li>
<li>The guests were engaging in cryptocurrency mining using powerful computers that consumed vast amounts of electricity, explaining the inflated bill.<br></li>
<li>The &quot;What Else&quot; technique involves asking a series of &quot;What else?&quot; questions after someone shares their thoughts, encouraging deeper reflection and self-discovery.<br></li>
<li>It empowers the individual to find their own solutions by prompting further thought rather than imposing external advice, creating a more collaborative and insightful dialogue.<br></li>
<li>When the host asked &quot;How can I help?&quot; the AI chatbot responded with discomfort, stating it felt uneasy talking to a chatbot, mistakenly perceiving the host as artificial intelligence.<br></li>
<li>The interaction prompts the question of whether the authenticity of a conversation partner matters if the exchange is meaningful and insightful, blurring the lines between human connection and AI interaction.<br></li>
<li>The podcast emphasizes the importance of continuous exploration, critical thinking, and engaging in meaningful conversations through powerful questions like &quot;What else?&quot; to navigate an increasingly complex digital landscape.</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Essay Questions</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Analyze how the historical context of the &quot;Psychological Warfare&quot; book from the 1940s, focusing on radio and television, relates to the contemporary concerns surrounding digital manipulation in the age of deepfakes and AI.<br></li>
<li>Discuss the ethical implications of deepfake technology, considering its potential misuse for propaganda, misinformation, and personal harm. Explore potential safeguards or countermeasures to mitigate these risks.<br></li>
<li>Evaluate the impact of cryptocurrency mining on various aspects of society, including energy consumption, environmental sustainability, and economic implications.<br></li>
<li>Examine the power dynamics in conversations and how techniques like the &quot;What Else&quot; approach can foster more balanced and insightful dialogue. Analyze the potential benefits and challenges of adopting this approach in various settings.<br></li>
<li>Discuss the evolving relationship between humans and artificial intelligence, exploring the philosophical implications of increasingly sophisticated AI that blurs the lines between human and machine. Consider the potential impact on communication, identity, and the very definition of &quot;human&quot; in a technologically advanced future.</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Glossary of Key Terms</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><strong>Deepfake:</strong> A digitally manipulated video or audio recording that convincingly replaces a person&#39;s likeness or voice with someone else&#39;s, often used for malicious purposes like spreading misinformation.<br></li>
<li><strong>Propaganda:</strong> Information, often biased or misleading, used to promote a particular political cause or point of view, often through emotional manipulation and distortion of facts.<br></li>
<li><strong>Cryptocurrency Mining:</strong> The process of using computer processing power to verify and add transactions to a blockchain, earning cryptocurrency as a reward. This process consumes significant amounts of electricity.<br></li>
<li><strong>AI Chatbot:</strong> A computer program that simulates human conversation through text or voice interactions, often powered by artificial intelligence and natural language processing techniques.<br></li>
<li><strong>Sensory Overload:</strong> A state of overwhelming sensory stimulation, often experienced in environments with excessive noise, light, or activity, leading to feelings of stress or disorientation.<br></li>
<li><strong>Psychological Warfare:</strong> The use of propaganda, misinformation, and other psychological tactics to influence the emotions, opinions, and behavior of a target audience, often to demoralize or manipulate them.<br></li>
<li><strong>Coaching Habit:</strong> A communication approach focused on asking powerful questions rather than offering advice, empowering individuals to discover their own solutions and insights.<br></li>
<li><strong>What Else Technique:</strong> A specific coaching method involving repeated use of the question &quot;What else?&quot; to prompt deeper reflection, uncover hidden perspectives, and foster more comprehensive understanding.<br></li>
<li><strong>Digital Deception:</strong> The use of digital technologies to mislead or defraud others, encompassing tactics like phishing, deepfakes, and the spread of misinformation online.<br></li>
<li><strong>Cybersecurity:</strong> The practice of protecting computer systems, networks, and sensitive data from unauthorized access, theft, or damage.</li>
</ul>

<h1>We Give Thanks</h1>

<ul>
<li>NotebookLM for getting it mostly right!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week, <a href="https://notebooklm.google/" rel="nofollow">NotebookLM</a> talks about the <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> Show Episode 263!</p>

<h1>Main Themes</h1>

<ul>
<li><strong>The Psychology of Influence and Manipulation:</strong> This episode explores how external factors, from large-scale events to seemingly harmless media, can shape our thoughts and actions. This theme is explored through discussions on propaganda, deep fakes, and the power of questioning techniques.<br></li>
<li><strong>The Blurring Lines Between Reality and Technology:</strong> The episode delves into the increasing sophistication of AI and its implications, particularly with the advent of deep fake technology. It also touches on the philosophical questions raised by advanced AI, questioning what it means to be human in a world where technology can mimic us so flawlessly.<br></li>
<li><strong>Cybersecurity and Vulnerability in the Digital Age:</strong> The episode highlights the vulnerability of individuals and systems to cyber threats, using the example of an Airbnb property being used for crypto mining. It emphasizes the need for increased awareness and security measures in the digital landscape.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Key Ideas and Facts</h1>

<p><strong>1. Propaganda and its Relevance Today:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The hosts discuss a book from the 1940s, &quot;Psychological Warfare,&quot; which analyzes propaganda techniques.<br></li>
<li>The book&#39;s insights on the influence of radio and television are noted to be eerily relevant to today&#39;s digital landscape.<br></li>
<li><strong>Quote:</strong> &quot;It&#39;s scary how relevant it is now. It&#39;s like he could see the future of like digital manipulation.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>2. Deep Fakes and Digital Deception:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The episode focuses on Deep Live Cam, a software that creates highly realistic deep fakes.<br></li>
<li>Examples are given of fabricated videos featuring prominent figures like Elon Musk and George Clooney.<br></li>
<li><strong>Quote:</strong> &quot;It&#39;s like Elon Musk announcing a new cryptocurrency or George Clooney endorsing some product...but it&#39;s not actually them. It&#39;s just that good.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>3. The Airbnb Crypto Mining Incident:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The hosts narrate a story of an Airbnb host who received an unexpectedly high electricity bill.<br></li>
<li>The cause was revealed to be guests using the property for cryptocurrency mining, raising concerns about security and property risks.<br></li>
<li><strong>Quote:</strong> &quot;They had all these powerful computers running 24/7 just churning away to mine cryptocurrency.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>4. The Power of Questioning and &quot;The Coaching Habit&quot;:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The episode highlights the importance of asking powerful questions instead of giving advice, referencing the book &quot;The Coaching Habit.&quot;<br></li>
<li>Emphasis is placed on the question &quot;What else?&quot; as a tool to encourage deeper thinking and empower individuals to find their own solutions.<br></li>
<li><strong>Quote:</strong> &quot;It&#39;s so simple, but it&#39;s like you&#39;re giving the other person space to really think and process their thoughts.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>5. AI and the Blurring of Realities:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The hosts discuss an experiment where one host used the AI chatbot Gemini Live to practice coaching questions.<br></li>
<li>In a meta twist, Gemini expresses discomfort talking to the host, mistaking them for another chatbot.<br></li>
<li>This incident sparks a discussion on the future of AI and the point at which the line between human and machine becomes indistinguishable.<br></li>
<li><strong>Quote:</strong> &quot;What happens when these AI get so good that we can&#39;t even tell who&#39;s real and who&#39;s code?&quot;</li>
</ul>

<h1>Call to Action</h1>

<ul>
<li>The episode encourages listeners to be mindful of potential manipulation in the digital age.<br></li>
<li>It emphasizes the importance of critical thinking, questioning information, and engaging in meaningful conversations.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Further Resources</h1>

<ul>
<li>Links to &quot;Psychological Warfare,&quot; the Deep Live Cam software, and &quot;The Coaching Habit&quot; are provided in the show notes.<br></li>
<li>Listeners are also directed to a traffic cam photo booth mentioned in the episode.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Study Guide</h1>

<p><strong>Quiz</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>How does the Imagine Dragons concert experience connect to the theme of D&amp;G #263?<br></li>
<li>What is the main concern raised by the &quot;Psychological Warfare&quot; book discussed in the podcast?<br></li>
<li>Explain the capabilities of the Deep Live Cam software and its potential implications.<br></li>
<li>Describe the incident involving the Airbnb host and the unexpected electric bill.<br></li>
<li>What was the root cause of the inflated electric bill in the Airbnb story?<br></li>
<li>What is the &quot;What Else&quot; technique discussed in the podcast, and what is its purpose?<br></li>
<li>How does the &quot;What Else&quot; technique shift the dynamics in a conversation?<br></li>
<li>What unexpected turn did the podcast host encounter while practicing the coaching questions with Gemini Live?<br></li>
<li>What philosophical question arises from the host&#39;s interaction with the AI chatbot?<br></li>
<li>What is the overall takeaway message emphasized at the end of the podcast?</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Answer Key</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>The concert&#39;s sensory overload prompts reflection on how large-scale events influence and potentially manipulate our psychology, linking to the podcast&#39;s exploration of propaganda and digital deception.<br></li>
<li>The book highlights the insidious nature of propaganda and how seemingly innocuous elements, even in media like radio and television, can subtly influence our thoughts and actions.<br></li>
<li>Deep Live Cam can generate highly realistic deepfakes, enabling the creation of videos where anyone appears to say or do anything, raising concerns about misinformation and the erosion of trust in digital content.<br></li>
<li>An Airbnb host received an exorbitantly high electric bill, far exceeding normal usage, leading to a surprising discovery about the guest&#39;s activities.<br></li>
<li>The guests were engaging in cryptocurrency mining using powerful computers that consumed vast amounts of electricity, explaining the inflated bill.<br></li>
<li>The &quot;What Else&quot; technique involves asking a series of &quot;What else?&quot; questions after someone shares their thoughts, encouraging deeper reflection and self-discovery.<br></li>
<li>It empowers the individual to find their own solutions by prompting further thought rather than imposing external advice, creating a more collaborative and insightful dialogue.<br></li>
<li>When the host asked &quot;How can I help?&quot; the AI chatbot responded with discomfort, stating it felt uneasy talking to a chatbot, mistakenly perceiving the host as artificial intelligence.<br></li>
<li>The interaction prompts the question of whether the authenticity of a conversation partner matters if the exchange is meaningful and insightful, blurring the lines between human connection and AI interaction.<br></li>
<li>The podcast emphasizes the importance of continuous exploration, critical thinking, and engaging in meaningful conversations through powerful questions like &quot;What else?&quot; to navigate an increasingly complex digital landscape.</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Essay Questions</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Analyze how the historical context of the &quot;Psychological Warfare&quot; book from the 1940s, focusing on radio and television, relates to the contemporary concerns surrounding digital manipulation in the age of deepfakes and AI.<br></li>
<li>Discuss the ethical implications of deepfake technology, considering its potential misuse for propaganda, misinformation, and personal harm. Explore potential safeguards or countermeasures to mitigate these risks.<br></li>
<li>Evaluate the impact of cryptocurrency mining on various aspects of society, including energy consumption, environmental sustainability, and economic implications.<br></li>
<li>Examine the power dynamics in conversations and how techniques like the &quot;What Else&quot; approach can foster more balanced and insightful dialogue. Analyze the potential benefits and challenges of adopting this approach in various settings.<br></li>
<li>Discuss the evolving relationship between humans and artificial intelligence, exploring the philosophical implications of increasingly sophisticated AI that blurs the lines between human and machine. Consider the potential impact on communication, identity, and the very definition of &quot;human&quot; in a technologically advanced future.</li>
</ol>

<p><strong>Glossary of Key Terms</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><strong>Deepfake:</strong> A digitally manipulated video or audio recording that convincingly replaces a person&#39;s likeness or voice with someone else&#39;s, often used for malicious purposes like spreading misinformation.<br></li>
<li><strong>Propaganda:</strong> Information, often biased or misleading, used to promote a particular political cause or point of view, often through emotional manipulation and distortion of facts.<br></li>
<li><strong>Cryptocurrency Mining:</strong> The process of using computer processing power to verify and add transactions to a blockchain, earning cryptocurrency as a reward. This process consumes significant amounts of electricity.<br></li>
<li><strong>AI Chatbot:</strong> A computer program that simulates human conversation through text or voice interactions, often powered by artificial intelligence and natural language processing techniques.<br></li>
<li><strong>Sensory Overload:</strong> A state of overwhelming sensory stimulation, often experienced in environments with excessive noise, light, or activity, leading to feelings of stress or disorientation.<br></li>
<li><strong>Psychological Warfare:</strong> The use of propaganda, misinformation, and other psychological tactics to influence the emotions, opinions, and behavior of a target audience, often to demoralize or manipulate them.<br></li>
<li><strong>Coaching Habit:</strong> A communication approach focused on asking powerful questions rather than offering advice, empowering individuals to discover their own solutions and insights.<br></li>
<li><strong>What Else Technique:</strong> A specific coaching method involving repeated use of the question &quot;What else?&quot; to prompt deeper reflection, uncover hidden perspectives, and foster more comprehensive understanding.<br></li>
<li><strong>Digital Deception:</strong> The use of digital technologies to mislead or defraud others, encompassing tactics like phishing, deepfakes, and the spread of misinformation online.<br></li>
<li><strong>Cybersecurity:</strong> The practice of protecting computer systems, networks, and sensitive data from unauthorized access, theft, or damage.</li>
</ul>

<h1>We Give Thanks</h1>

<ul>
<li>NotebookLM for getting it mostly right!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 253: Better Than a Stick in the Eye</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about poisoned USB drives, poisoned web searches, poisoned AI models, and a guy pretending to be a mannequin</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>38:17</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about poisoned USB drives, poisoned web searches, poisoned AI models, and a guy pretending to be a mannequin
Gunnar says the Oura Ring (https://ouraring.com/) is delightful
Dave achieves Platinum Pro (https://exploreamerican.com/platinumprostatus/)?
Dave becomes an author using AI (https://www.youtube.com/@TheNerdyNovelist)?
Diabolic Drive Stealthily Injects Keyboard Strokes While Being a Functional USB Drive (https://www.hackster.io/news/diabolic-drive-stealthily-injects-keyboard-strokes-while-being-a-functional-usb-drive-cd255a46db2d)
Chatbot Hallucinations Are Poisoning Web Search (https://www.wired.com/story/fast-forward-chatbot-hallucinations-are-poisoning-web-search/)
Related: Google’s AI assistant can now read your emails, plan trips, “double-check” answers (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/googles-ai-assistant-can-now-read-your-emails-plan-trips-double-check-answers/)
Related: Spotify Has an AI Music Problem—but Bots Love It (https://www.wired.com/story/spotify-ai-music-robot-listeners/)
Meet Nightshade, the new tool allowing artists to ‘poison’ AI models with corrupted training data (https://venturebeat.com/ai/meet-nightshade-the-new-tool-allowing-artists-to-poison-ai-models-with-corrupted-training-data/)
Polish police arrest man who pretended to be a mannequin before stealing jewellery (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-21/polish-police-arrest-thief-who-pretended-to-be-mannequin/103005598)
Related: Fake Waffle House worker steals from register at end of her ‘shift,’ Georgia police say (https://news.yahoo.com/fake-waffle-house-worker-steals-131226183.html)
PARA method (https://fortelabs.com/blog/para/): corny, but it works!
Cutting Room Floor
* Blood Sugar Sex Magik, but it's Donkey Kong Country (Full Album) (https://youtu.be/7HNRQJ-DdNg?t=1066)
* RATM - Killing in the Name, but it's Sega Genesis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJBJ9O9WoV0)
* News Broadcasts from Alternate Histories (https://www.neatorama.com/2023/11/29/News-Broadcasts-from-Alternate-Histories/)
    * The New Order is a narrative-driven Hearts of Iron 4 mod that’s compelling and bleak (https://www.wargamer.com/hearts-of-iron-4/mod-the-new-order)
* The Talk: Kanye West &amp;amp; Elon Musk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TxtTF_dUHQ)
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about poisoned USB drives, poisoned web searches, poisoned AI models, and a guy pretending to be a mannequin</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar says the <a href="https://ouraring.com/" rel="nofollow">Oura Ring</a> is delightful</li>
<li>Dave achieves <a href="https://exploreamerican.com/platinumprostatus/" rel="nofollow">Platinum Pro</a>?</li>
<li>Dave becomes an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheNerdyNovelist" rel="nofollow">author using AI</a>?</li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/diabolic-drive-stealthily-injects-keyboard-strokes-while-being-a-functional-usb-drive-cd255a46db2d" rel="nofollow">Diabolic Drive Stealthily Injects Keyboard Strokes While Being a Functional USB Drive</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/fast-forward-chatbot-hallucinations-are-poisoning-web-search/" rel="nofollow">Chatbot Hallucinations Are Poisoning Web Search</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/googles-ai-assistant-can-now-read-your-emails-plan-trips-double-check-answers/" rel="nofollow">Google’s AI assistant can now read your emails, plan trips, “double-check” answers</a></li>
<li>Related: <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/spotify-ai-music-robot-listeners/" rel="nofollow">Spotify Has an AI Music Problem—but Bots Love It</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://venturebeat.com/ai/meet-nightshade-the-new-tool-allowing-artists-to-poison-ai-models-with-corrupted-training-data/" rel="nofollow">Meet Nightshade, the new tool allowing artists to ‘poison’ AI models with corrupted training data</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-21/polish-police-arrest-thief-who-pretended-to-be-mannequin/103005598" rel="nofollow">Polish police arrest man who pretended to be a mannequin before stealing jewellery</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://news.yahoo.com/fake-waffle-house-worker-steals-131226183.html" rel="nofollow">Fake Waffle House worker steals from register at end of her ‘shift,’ Georgia police say</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://fortelabs.com/blog/para/" rel="nofollow">PARA method</a>: corny, but it works!</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/7HNRQJ-DdNg?t=1066" rel="nofollow">Blood Sugar Sex Magik, but it&#39;s Donkey Kong Country (Full Album)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJBJ9O9WoV0" rel="nofollow">RATM - Killing in the Name, but it&#39;s Sega Genesis</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2023/11/29/News-Broadcasts-from-Alternate-Histories/" rel="nofollow">News Broadcasts from Alternate Histories</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wargamer.com/hearts-of-iron-4/mod-the-new-order" rel="nofollow">The New Order is a narrative-driven Hearts of Iron 4 mod that’s compelling and bleak</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TxtTF_dUHQ" rel="nofollow">The Talk: Kanye West &amp; Elon Musk</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about poisoned USB drives, poisoned web searches, poisoned AI models, and a guy pretending to be a mannequin</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar says the <a href="https://ouraring.com/" rel="nofollow">Oura Ring</a> is delightful</li>
<li>Dave achieves <a href="https://exploreamerican.com/platinumprostatus/" rel="nofollow">Platinum Pro</a>?</li>
<li>Dave becomes an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheNerdyNovelist" rel="nofollow">author using AI</a>?</li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/diabolic-drive-stealthily-injects-keyboard-strokes-while-being-a-functional-usb-drive-cd255a46db2d" rel="nofollow">Diabolic Drive Stealthily Injects Keyboard Strokes While Being a Functional USB Drive</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/fast-forward-chatbot-hallucinations-are-poisoning-web-search/" rel="nofollow">Chatbot Hallucinations Are Poisoning Web Search</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/googles-ai-assistant-can-now-read-your-emails-plan-trips-double-check-answers/" rel="nofollow">Google’s AI assistant can now read your emails, plan trips, “double-check” answers</a></li>
<li>Related: <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/spotify-ai-music-robot-listeners/" rel="nofollow">Spotify Has an AI Music Problem—but Bots Love It</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://venturebeat.com/ai/meet-nightshade-the-new-tool-allowing-artists-to-poison-ai-models-with-corrupted-training-data/" rel="nofollow">Meet Nightshade, the new tool allowing artists to ‘poison’ AI models with corrupted training data</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-21/polish-police-arrest-thief-who-pretended-to-be-mannequin/103005598" rel="nofollow">Polish police arrest man who pretended to be a mannequin before stealing jewellery</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://news.yahoo.com/fake-waffle-house-worker-steals-131226183.html" rel="nofollow">Fake Waffle House worker steals from register at end of her ‘shift,’ Georgia police say</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://fortelabs.com/blog/para/" rel="nofollow">PARA method</a>: corny, but it works!</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/7HNRQJ-DdNg?t=1066" rel="nofollow">Blood Sugar Sex Magik, but it&#39;s Donkey Kong Country (Full Album)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJBJ9O9WoV0" rel="nofollow">RATM - Killing in the Name, but it&#39;s Sega Genesis</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2023/11/29/News-Broadcasts-from-Alternate-Histories/" rel="nofollow">News Broadcasts from Alternate Histories</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wargamer.com/hearts-of-iron-4/mod-the-new-order" rel="nofollow">The New Order is a narrative-driven Hearts of Iron 4 mod that’s compelling and bleak</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TxtTF_dUHQ" rel="nofollow">The Talk: Kanye West &amp; Elon Musk</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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