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  <title>Episode 272: Seed Oils Made Y’all Weak</title>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about fake bodies, fake passports, fake speakers, a fake Commodore 64 CD-ROM, and Erich Morisse (https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/) being mean to AI
Gunnar builds a Gemini (https://gemini.google.com/)-powered virtual team: It's all about perspective. (https://www.easygen.io/post/its-all-about-perspective)  
Farewell Pocket (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/future-of-pocket), hello Wallabag (https://wallabag.org/) or Instapaper (https://www.instapaper.com/)?  
Ethically sourced “spare” human bodies could revolutionize medicine (https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/03/25/1113611/ethically-sourced-spare-human-bodies-could-revolutionize-medicine/)  
His Dark Materials (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials) by Philip Pullman  
Fake Passport Generated by ChatGPT Bypasses Security (http://securityexpress.info/fake-passport-generated-by-chatgpt-bypasses-security)  
An episode of The Simpsons? Fake speakers found in Chinese Volvos. (http://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/02/chinese-volvo-customers-report-fake-bw-speakers-in-their-cars)  
The Simpsons: I know a genuine Magnetbox, Panaphonic, &amp;amp; Sorny when I see one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guck4FoWQss)  
The Commodore 64’s Forgotten CD-ROM (https://www.hackster.io/news/the-commodore-64-s-forgotten-cd-rom-ea09778d48ee)  
Google's Co-Founder Says AI Performs Best When You Threaten It (https://lifehacker.com/tech/googles-co-founder-says-ai-performs-best-when-you-threaten-it)  
Erich Morisse (https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/) asks: What If We’re Mean To AI and It's Faster? (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-were-mean-ai-its-faster-erich-morisse-a7ome/)
Cutting Room Floor
The Business Cards of American Psycho (https://hobancards.com/blogs/thoughts-and-curiosities/american-psycho-business-cards)  
Alarm App Demands You Watch Advertisement to Hit "Snooze" Button (https://futurism.com/alarm-app-advertisement-snooze)  
Influenders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmlbAbWQCVY)  
Middle-Aged Man Trading Cards Go Viral in Rural Japan Town (https://www.tokyoweekender.com/entertainment/middle-aged-man-trading-cards-go-viral-in-japan/)
Character Card: Dave Egts, the Tech Conduit
* Class: Information Broker/Wandering Scholar  
* Level: 10 (Represents seasoned experience in gathering and disseminating information)  
* Key Stats:  
  * Intelligence: 14 (Keen interest in technology and current events)  
  * Wisdom: 13 (Experienced in presenting information and guiding discussions)  
  * Charisma: 15 (Engaging host, able to connect with listeners and Gunnar)  
  * Dexterity: 11 (Likely adept at navigating digital interfaces)  
  * Constitution: 10 (Average resilience)  
  * Strength: 9 (Less emphasis on physical prowess)  
* Skills:  
  * Information Gathering: +4 (Constantly bringing up news and interesting links)  
  * Persuasion: +5 (Convincing in his role as host)  
  * Technology Lore: +4 (Knowledgeable about various technologies, especially AI)  
  * Networking: +3 (Maintains connections, has an intern)  
  * Podcastcasting: +5 (Years of experience hosting the "Dave and Gunnar Show")  
* Equipment/Tools:  
  * The Scroll of Cutting Room Findings: A collection of intriguing and often bizarre information snippets.  
  * The Referral Link Amulet: Grants minor luck when promoting digital services.  
  * The Microphone of Amplification: Enhances his voice and presence.  
* Special Abilities:  
  * Rapid Link Retrieval: Can quickly recall and share relevant information from his vast mental archives.  
  * Interruption Evasion: Skilled at navigating conversational tangents and bringing the focus back.  
  * Beard of Minor Intimidation: Once grew a beard that reportedly scared children. (Grants a +1 to Intimidation checks, but only when visibly bearded).  
Character Card: Gunnar Hellekson, the Organized Sage  
* Class: Productivity Master/Lorekeeper  
* Level: 10 (Represents deep knowledge and refined organizational skills)  
* Key Stats:  
  * Intelligence: 15 (Deeply analytical and knowledgeable in various subjects)  
  * Wisdom: 14 (Offers insightful perspectives and well-reasoned opinions)  
  * Charisma: 12 (Engaging in discussions, though sometimes focused on his own systems)  
  * Dexterity: 12 (Likely efficient with digital tools and interfaces)  
  * Constitution: 11 (Average resilience)  
  * Strength: 8 (Less emphasis on physical pursuits)  
* Skills:  
  * Organization: +6 (Master of Todoist and the PARA method)  
  * Lore (Technology): +4 (Extensive knowledge of tech trends and concepts)  
  * Lore (Games): +4 (Passionate about Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons and video games like Fallout)  
  * Insight: +4 (Able to identify underlying issues and biases)  
  * Digital Note-Taking: +3 (Proficient with InstaPaper)  
* Equipment/Tools:  
  * The Immaculate Todoist Ledger: A constantly updated record of tasks, goals, and accountabilities.  
  * The InstaPaper Tome of Summaries: Contains AI-generated summaries of vast amounts of information.  
  * The D&amp;amp;D Dice of Fate: Used for both entertainment and occasional insightful pronouncements.  
* Special Abilities:  
  * Systematic Efficiency: Can optimize tasks and processes for maximum productivity.  
  * Lore Recall: Able to access detailed knowledge on a wide range of topics, especially related to technology and games.  
  * Twitter Banishing Aura: Once permanently deleted his Twitter account, creating a zone of social media detachment around him.  
  * PARA Method Mastery: Can impose order on chaotic situations with a well-defined system.
We Give Thanks
Erich Morisse (https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/) for having us think about AI kindness! 
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about fake bodies, fake passports, fake speakers, a fake Commodore 64 CD-ROM, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/" rel="nofollow">Erich Morisse</a> being mean to AI</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar builds a <a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="nofollow">Gemini</a>-powered virtual team: <a href="https://www.easygen.io/post/its-all-about-perspective" rel="nofollow">It&#39;s all about perspective.</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/future-of-pocket" rel="nofollow">Farewell Pocket</a>, hello <a href="https://wallabag.org/" rel="nofollow">Wallabag</a> or <a href="https://www.instapaper.com/" rel="nofollow">Instapaper</a>?<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/03/25/1113611/ethically-sourced-spare-human-bodies-could-revolutionize-medicine/" rel="nofollow">Ethically sourced “spare” human bodies could revolutionize medicine</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials" rel="nofollow"><em>His Dark Materials</em></a> by Philip Pullman<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://securityexpress.info/fake-passport-generated-by-chatgpt-bypasses-security" rel="nofollow">Fake Passport Generated by ChatGPT Bypasses Security</a><br></li>
<li><a href="http://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/02/chinese-volvo-customers-report-fake-bw-speakers-in-their-cars" rel="nofollow">An episode of The Simpsons? Fake speakers found in Chinese Volvos.</a><br>

<ul>
<li>The Simpsons: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guck4FoWQss" rel="nofollow">I know a genuine Magnetbox, Panaphonic, &amp; Sorny when I see one.</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/the-commodore-64-s-forgotten-cd-rom-ea09778d48ee" rel="nofollow">The Commodore 64’s Forgotten CD-ROM</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://lifehacker.com/tech/googles-co-founder-says-ai-performs-best-when-you-threaten-it" rel="nofollow">Google&#39;s Co-Founder Says AI Performs Best When You Threaten It</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/" rel="nofollow">Erich Morisse</a> asks: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-were-mean-ai-its-faster-erich-morisse-a7ome/" rel="nofollow">What If We’re Mean To AI and It&#39;s Faster?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://hobancards.com/blogs/thoughts-and-curiosities/american-psycho-business-cards" rel="nofollow">The Business Cards of American Psycho</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://futurism.com/alarm-app-advertisement-snooze" rel="nofollow">Alarm App Demands You Watch Advertisement to Hit &quot;Snooze&quot; Button</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmlbAbWQCVY" rel="nofollow">Influenders</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tokyoweekender.com/entertainment/middle-aged-man-trading-cards-go-viral-in-japan/" rel="nofollow">Middle-Aged Man Trading Cards Go Viral in Rural Japan Town</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Character Card: Dave Egts, the Tech Conduit</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Class: Information Broker/Wandering Scholar<br></li>
<li>Level: 10 (Represents seasoned experience in gathering and disseminating information)<br></li>
<li>Key Stats:<br>

<ul>
<li>Intelligence: 14 (Keen interest in technology and current events)<br></li>
<li>Wisdom: 13 (Experienced in presenting information and guiding discussions)<br></li>
<li>Charisma: 15 (Engaging host, able to connect with listeners and Gunnar)<br></li>
<li>Dexterity: 11 (Likely adept at navigating digital interfaces)<br></li>
<li>Constitution: 10 (Average resilience)<br></li>
<li>Strength: 9 (Less emphasis on physical prowess)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Skills:<br>

<ul>
<li>Information Gathering: +4 (Constantly bringing up news and interesting links)<br></li>
<li>Persuasion: +5 (Convincing in his role as host)<br></li>
<li>Technology Lore: +4 (Knowledgeable about various technologies, especially AI)<br></li>
<li>Networking: +3 (Maintains connections, has an intern)<br></li>
<li>Podcastcasting: +5 (Years of experience hosting the &quot;Dave and Gunnar Show&quot;)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Equipment/Tools:<br>

<ul>
<li>The Scroll of Cutting Room Findings: A collection of intriguing and often bizarre information snippets.<br></li>
<li>The Referral Link Amulet: Grants minor luck when promoting digital services.<br></li>
<li>The Microphone of Amplification: Enhances his voice and presence.<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Special Abilities:<br>

<ul>
<li>Rapid Link Retrieval: Can quickly recall and share relevant information from his vast mental archives.<br></li>
<li>Interruption Evasion: Skilled at navigating conversational tangents and bringing the focus back.<br></li>
<li>Beard of Minor Intimidation: Once grew a beard that reportedly scared children. (Grants a +1 to Intimidation checks, but only when visibly bearded).<br></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Character Card: Gunnar Hellekson, the Organized Sage</strong>  </p>

<ul>
<li>Class: Productivity Master/Lorekeeper<br></li>
<li>Level: 10 (Represents deep knowledge and refined organizational skills)<br></li>
<li>Key Stats:<br>

<ul>
<li>Intelligence: 15 (Deeply analytical and knowledgeable in various subjects)<br></li>
<li>Wisdom: 14 (Offers insightful perspectives and well-reasoned opinions)<br></li>
<li>Charisma: 12 (Engaging in discussions, though sometimes focused on his own systems)<br></li>
<li>Dexterity: 12 (Likely efficient with digital tools and interfaces)<br></li>
<li>Constitution: 11 (Average resilience)<br></li>
<li>Strength: 8 (Less emphasis on physical pursuits)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Skills:<br>

<ul>
<li>Organization: +6 (Master of Todoist and the PARA method)<br></li>
<li>Lore (Technology): +4 (Extensive knowledge of tech trends and concepts)<br></li>
<li>Lore (Games): +4 (Passionate about Dungeons &amp; Dragons and video games like Fallout)<br></li>
<li>Insight: +4 (Able to identify underlying issues and biases)<br></li>
<li>Digital Note-Taking: +3 (Proficient with InstaPaper)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Equipment/Tools:<br>

<ul>
<li>The Immaculate Todoist Ledger: A constantly updated record of tasks, goals, and accountabilities.<br></li>
<li>The InstaPaper Tome of Summaries: Contains AI-generated summaries of vast amounts of information.<br></li>
<li>The D&amp;D Dice of Fate: Used for both entertainment and occasional insightful pronouncements.<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Special Abilities:<br>

<ul>
<li>Systematic Efficiency: Can optimize tasks and processes for maximum productivity.<br></li>
<li>Lore Recall: Able to access detailed knowledge on a wide range of topics, especially related to technology and games.<br></li>
<li>Twitter Banishing Aura: Once permanently deleted his Twitter account, creating a zone of social media detachment around him.<br></li>
<li>PARA Method Mastery: Can impose order on chaotic situations with a well-defined system.</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/" rel="nofollow">Erich Morisse</a> for having us think about AI kindness!</li>
</ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about fake bodies, fake passports, fake speakers, a fake Commodore 64 CD-ROM, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/" rel="nofollow">Erich Morisse</a> being mean to AI</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar builds a <a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="nofollow">Gemini</a>-powered virtual team: <a href="https://www.easygen.io/post/its-all-about-perspective" rel="nofollow">It&#39;s all about perspective.</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/future-of-pocket" rel="nofollow">Farewell Pocket</a>, hello <a href="https://wallabag.org/" rel="nofollow">Wallabag</a> or <a href="https://www.instapaper.com/" rel="nofollow">Instapaper</a>?<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/03/25/1113611/ethically-sourced-spare-human-bodies-could-revolutionize-medicine/" rel="nofollow">Ethically sourced “spare” human bodies could revolutionize medicine</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials" rel="nofollow"><em>His Dark Materials</em></a> by Philip Pullman<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://securityexpress.info/fake-passport-generated-by-chatgpt-bypasses-security" rel="nofollow">Fake Passport Generated by ChatGPT Bypasses Security</a><br></li>
<li><a href="http://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/02/chinese-volvo-customers-report-fake-bw-speakers-in-their-cars" rel="nofollow">An episode of The Simpsons? Fake speakers found in Chinese Volvos.</a><br>

<ul>
<li>The Simpsons: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guck4FoWQss" rel="nofollow">I know a genuine Magnetbox, Panaphonic, &amp; Sorny when I see one.</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/the-commodore-64-s-forgotten-cd-rom-ea09778d48ee" rel="nofollow">The Commodore 64’s Forgotten CD-ROM</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://lifehacker.com/tech/googles-co-founder-says-ai-performs-best-when-you-threaten-it" rel="nofollow">Google&#39;s Co-Founder Says AI Performs Best When You Threaten It</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/" rel="nofollow">Erich Morisse</a> asks: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-were-mean-ai-its-faster-erich-morisse-a7ome/" rel="nofollow">What If We’re Mean To AI and It&#39;s Faster?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://hobancards.com/blogs/thoughts-and-curiosities/american-psycho-business-cards" rel="nofollow">The Business Cards of American Psycho</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://futurism.com/alarm-app-advertisement-snooze" rel="nofollow">Alarm App Demands You Watch Advertisement to Hit &quot;Snooze&quot; Button</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmlbAbWQCVY" rel="nofollow">Influenders</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tokyoweekender.com/entertainment/middle-aged-man-trading-cards-go-viral-in-japan/" rel="nofollow">Middle-Aged Man Trading Cards Go Viral in Rural Japan Town</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Character Card: Dave Egts, the Tech Conduit</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Class: Information Broker/Wandering Scholar<br></li>
<li>Level: 10 (Represents seasoned experience in gathering and disseminating information)<br></li>
<li>Key Stats:<br>

<ul>
<li>Intelligence: 14 (Keen interest in technology and current events)<br></li>
<li>Wisdom: 13 (Experienced in presenting information and guiding discussions)<br></li>
<li>Charisma: 15 (Engaging host, able to connect with listeners and Gunnar)<br></li>
<li>Dexterity: 11 (Likely adept at navigating digital interfaces)<br></li>
<li>Constitution: 10 (Average resilience)<br></li>
<li>Strength: 9 (Less emphasis on physical prowess)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Skills:<br>

<ul>
<li>Information Gathering: +4 (Constantly bringing up news and interesting links)<br></li>
<li>Persuasion: +5 (Convincing in his role as host)<br></li>
<li>Technology Lore: +4 (Knowledgeable about various technologies, especially AI)<br></li>
<li>Networking: +3 (Maintains connections, has an intern)<br></li>
<li>Podcastcasting: +5 (Years of experience hosting the &quot;Dave and Gunnar Show&quot;)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Equipment/Tools:<br>

<ul>
<li>The Scroll of Cutting Room Findings: A collection of intriguing and often bizarre information snippets.<br></li>
<li>The Referral Link Amulet: Grants minor luck when promoting digital services.<br></li>
<li>The Microphone of Amplification: Enhances his voice and presence.<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Special Abilities:<br>

<ul>
<li>Rapid Link Retrieval: Can quickly recall and share relevant information from his vast mental archives.<br></li>
<li>Interruption Evasion: Skilled at navigating conversational tangents and bringing the focus back.<br></li>
<li>Beard of Minor Intimidation: Once grew a beard that reportedly scared children. (Grants a +1 to Intimidation checks, but only when visibly bearded).<br></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Character Card: Gunnar Hellekson, the Organized Sage</strong>  </p>

<ul>
<li>Class: Productivity Master/Lorekeeper<br></li>
<li>Level: 10 (Represents deep knowledge and refined organizational skills)<br></li>
<li>Key Stats:<br>

<ul>
<li>Intelligence: 15 (Deeply analytical and knowledgeable in various subjects)<br></li>
<li>Wisdom: 14 (Offers insightful perspectives and well-reasoned opinions)<br></li>
<li>Charisma: 12 (Engaging in discussions, though sometimes focused on his own systems)<br></li>
<li>Dexterity: 12 (Likely efficient with digital tools and interfaces)<br></li>
<li>Constitution: 11 (Average resilience)<br></li>
<li>Strength: 8 (Less emphasis on physical pursuits)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Skills:<br>

<ul>
<li>Organization: +6 (Master of Todoist and the PARA method)<br></li>
<li>Lore (Technology): +4 (Extensive knowledge of tech trends and concepts)<br></li>
<li>Lore (Games): +4 (Passionate about Dungeons &amp; Dragons and video games like Fallout)<br></li>
<li>Insight: +4 (Able to identify underlying issues and biases)<br></li>
<li>Digital Note-Taking: +3 (Proficient with InstaPaper)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Equipment/Tools:<br>

<ul>
<li>The Immaculate Todoist Ledger: A constantly updated record of tasks, goals, and accountabilities.<br></li>
<li>The InstaPaper Tome of Summaries: Contains AI-generated summaries of vast amounts of information.<br></li>
<li>The D&amp;D Dice of Fate: Used for both entertainment and occasional insightful pronouncements.<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Special Abilities:<br>

<ul>
<li>Systematic Efficiency: Can optimize tasks and processes for maximum productivity.<br></li>
<li>Lore Recall: Able to access detailed knowledge on a wide range of topics, especially related to technology and games.<br></li>
<li>Twitter Banishing Aura: Once permanently deleted his Twitter account, creating a zone of social media detachment around him.<br></li>
<li>PARA Method Mastery: Can impose order on chaotic situations with a well-defined system.</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emorisse/" rel="nofollow">Erich Morisse</a> for having us think about AI kindness!</li>
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  <title>Episode 268: Grape Job!</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2025 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <description>Grape Job!
This week, Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about fake faces, fake video calls, fake parking lots, fake bagpipes, fake lollipops, and fake gas leaks!
Kobo Clara Color (https://us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-clara-colour)  
Libby (https://www.overdrive.com/apps/libby)  
Paperlike Screen Protector (https://paperlike.com/products/paperlike-for-ipad) and Bumper Case (https://paperlike.com/products/paperlike-bumper-case)  
Kindle Scribe (https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-reading-writing-journaling-sketching/dp/B0BQPS527F)  
Pilgrim at Tinker Creek (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrim_at_Tinker_Creek)  
Good-Bye to All That (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good-Bye_to_All_That)  
Kindle Unlimited (https://www.amazon.com/Browse-Kindle-Unlimited-Books/b?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;node=9069934011)  
Ghost Fleet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Fleet_(novel))  
D&amp;amp;G This Week in Mask Technology: Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification (https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/12/full-face-masks-to-frustrate-identification.html)  
How a digital ‘you’ can sit through your agonizing web conference calls (https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/23/how-a-digital-you-can-sit-through-your-agonizing-web-conference-calls/)  
Infinite Jest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Jest)  
D&amp;amp;G This Week in Fluorescent Vests: Police flag Pittsburgh man for Steelers parking lot scam (https://triblive.com/local/police-flag-pittsburgh-man-for-steelers-parking-lot-scam/)  
Speaking of fluorescent vests: NYC Wants You to Stop Taking Traffic Cam Selfies, But Here's How to Do It Anyway (https://www.pcmag.com/articles/nyc-wants-you-to-stop-taking-traffic-cam-selfies-but-heres-how-to-do-it)  
This USB-C mouthpiece turns your phone into a musical instrument (https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/12/this-usb-c-mouthpiece-turns-your-phone-into-a-woodwind-instrument/)  
Zamfir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gheorghe_Zamfir)  
Licking this “lollipop” will let you taste virtual flavors (https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/11/licking-this-lollipop-will-let-you-taste-virtual-flavors/)  
Scratch And Sniff Stickers And The Gas Panic Of ’87 (https://hackaday.com/2024/12/03/scratch-and-sniff-stickers-and-the-gas-panic-of-87/)  
Order yours today: T!E Natural Gas Mercaptan Scratch and Sniff Stickers (Set of 30) (https://nef1.org/product/natural-gas-mercaptan-stickers/)
Cutting Room Floor
* Browse 64 Years of RadioShack Catalogs Free Online … and Revisit the History of American Consumer Electronics (https://www.openculture.com/2024/08/browse-64-years-of-radioshack-catalogs-free-online.html)  
* The Commodordion Gets A Big Usability Upgrade (https://hackaday.com/2024/08/28/the-commodordion-gets-a-big-usability-upgrade/)  
* Tetris packed inside a PDF file to run in any PC browser — Pdftris runs from a 60KB PDF (https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pdftris-is-a-tetris-game-inside-a-pdf-which-runs-in-any-modern-pc-browser)  
* They've only gone and made Doom run in a PDF file (https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/14/doom_delivered_in_a_pdf/)  
* Protect Your Site With A DOOM Captcha (https://hackaday.com/2025/01/01/protect-your-site-with-a-doom-captcha/)  
* Minimal Linux OS runs in a 6MB PDF document in Chrome — LinuxPDF leverages RISC-V emulator (http://tomshardware.com/software/linux/minimal-linux-os-runs-in-a-6mb-pdf-document-in-chrome-linuxpdf-leverages-risc-v-emulator) 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Grape Job!</strong></p>

<p>This week, <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about fake faces, fake video calls, fake parking lots, fake bagpipes, fake lollipops, and fake gas leaks!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-clara-colour" rel="nofollow">Kobo Clara Color</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.overdrive.com/apps/libby" rel="nofollow">Libby</a><br></li>
<li>Paperlike <a href="https://paperlike.com/products/paperlike-for-ipad" rel="nofollow">Screen Protector</a> and <a href="https://paperlike.com/products/paperlike-bumper-case" rel="nofollow">Bumper Case</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-reading-writing-journaling-sketching/dp/B0BQPS527F" rel="nofollow">Kindle Scribe</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrim_at_Tinker_Creek" rel="nofollow"><em>Pilgrim at Tinker Creek</em></a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good-Bye_to_All_That" rel="nofollow"><em>Good-Bye to All That</em></a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Browse-Kindle-Unlimited-Books/b?ie=UTF8&node=9069934011" rel="nofollow">Kindle Unlimited</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Fleet_(novel)" rel="nofollow"><em>Ghost Fleet</em></a><br></li>
<li>D&amp;G This Week in Mask Technology: <a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/12/full-face-masks-to-frustrate-identification.html" rel="nofollow">Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/23/how-a-digital-you-can-sit-through-your-agonizing-web-conference-calls/" rel="nofollow">How a digital ‘you’ can sit through your agonizing web conference calls</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Jest" rel="nofollow"><em>Infinite Jest</em></a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>D&amp;G This Week in Fluorescent Vests: <a href="https://triblive.com/local/police-flag-pittsburgh-man-for-steelers-parking-lot-scam/" rel="nofollow">Police flag Pittsburgh man for Steelers parking lot scam</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Speaking of fluorescent vests: <a href="https://www.pcmag.com/articles/nyc-wants-you-to-stop-taking-traffic-cam-selfies-but-heres-how-to-do-it" rel="nofollow">NYC Wants You to Stop Taking Traffic Cam Selfies, But Here&#39;s How to Do It Anyway</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/12/this-usb-c-mouthpiece-turns-your-phone-into-a-woodwind-instrument/" rel="nofollow">This USB-C mouthpiece turns your phone into a musical instrument</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gheorghe_Zamfir" rel="nofollow">Zamfir</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/11/licking-this-lollipop-will-let-you-taste-virtual-flavors/" rel="nofollow">Licking this “lollipop” will let you taste virtual flavors</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2024/12/03/scratch-and-sniff-stickers-and-the-gas-panic-of-87/" rel="nofollow">Scratch And Sniff Stickers And The Gas Panic Of ’87</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Order yours today: <a href="https://nef1.org/product/natural-gas-mercaptan-stickers/" rel="nofollow">T!E Natural Gas Mercaptan Scratch and Sniff Stickers (Set of 30)</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2024/08/browse-64-years-of-radioshack-catalogs-free-online.html" rel="nofollow">Browse 64 Years of RadioShack Catalogs Free Online … and Revisit the History of American Consumer Electronics</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2024/08/28/the-commodordion-gets-a-big-usability-upgrade/" rel="nofollow">The Commodordion Gets A Big Usability Upgrade</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pdftris-is-a-tetris-game-inside-a-pdf-which-runs-in-any-modern-pc-browser" rel="nofollow">Tetris packed inside a PDF file to run in any PC browser — Pdftris runs from a 60KB PDF</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/14/doom_delivered_in_a_pdf/" rel="nofollow">They&#39;ve only gone and made Doom run in a PDF file</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/01/01/protect-your-site-with-a-doom-captcha/" rel="nofollow">Protect Your Site With A DOOM Captcha</a><br></li>
<li><a href="http://tomshardware.com/software/linux/minimal-linux-os-runs-in-a-6mb-pdf-document-in-chrome-linuxpdf-leverages-risc-v-emulator" rel="nofollow">Minimal Linux OS runs in a 6MB PDF document in Chrome — LinuxPDF leverages RISC-V emulator</a></li>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Grape Job!</strong></p>

<p>This week, <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about fake faces, fake video calls, fake parking lots, fake bagpipes, fake lollipops, and fake gas leaks!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-clara-colour" rel="nofollow">Kobo Clara Color</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.overdrive.com/apps/libby" rel="nofollow">Libby</a><br></li>
<li>Paperlike <a href="https://paperlike.com/products/paperlike-for-ipad" rel="nofollow">Screen Protector</a> and <a href="https://paperlike.com/products/paperlike-bumper-case" rel="nofollow">Bumper Case</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-reading-writing-journaling-sketching/dp/B0BQPS527F" rel="nofollow">Kindle Scribe</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrim_at_Tinker_Creek" rel="nofollow"><em>Pilgrim at Tinker Creek</em></a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good-Bye_to_All_That" rel="nofollow"><em>Good-Bye to All That</em></a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Browse-Kindle-Unlimited-Books/b?ie=UTF8&node=9069934011" rel="nofollow">Kindle Unlimited</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Fleet_(novel)" rel="nofollow"><em>Ghost Fleet</em></a><br></li>
<li>D&amp;G This Week in Mask Technology: <a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/12/full-face-masks-to-frustrate-identification.html" rel="nofollow">Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/23/how-a-digital-you-can-sit-through-your-agonizing-web-conference-calls/" rel="nofollow">How a digital ‘you’ can sit through your agonizing web conference calls</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Jest" rel="nofollow"><em>Infinite Jest</em></a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>D&amp;G This Week in Fluorescent Vests: <a href="https://triblive.com/local/police-flag-pittsburgh-man-for-steelers-parking-lot-scam/" rel="nofollow">Police flag Pittsburgh man for Steelers parking lot scam</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Speaking of fluorescent vests: <a href="https://www.pcmag.com/articles/nyc-wants-you-to-stop-taking-traffic-cam-selfies-but-heres-how-to-do-it" rel="nofollow">NYC Wants You to Stop Taking Traffic Cam Selfies, But Here&#39;s How to Do It Anyway</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/12/this-usb-c-mouthpiece-turns-your-phone-into-a-woodwind-instrument/" rel="nofollow">This USB-C mouthpiece turns your phone into a musical instrument</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gheorghe_Zamfir" rel="nofollow">Zamfir</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/11/licking-this-lollipop-will-let-you-taste-virtual-flavors/" rel="nofollow">Licking this “lollipop” will let you taste virtual flavors</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2024/12/03/scratch-and-sniff-stickers-and-the-gas-panic-of-87/" rel="nofollow">Scratch And Sniff Stickers And The Gas Panic Of ’87</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Order yours today: <a href="https://nef1.org/product/natural-gas-mercaptan-stickers/" rel="nofollow">T!E Natural Gas Mercaptan Scratch and Sniff Stickers (Set of 30)</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2024/08/browse-64-years-of-radioshack-catalogs-free-online.html" rel="nofollow">Browse 64 Years of RadioShack Catalogs Free Online … and Revisit the History of American Consumer Electronics</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2024/08/28/the-commodordion-gets-a-big-usability-upgrade/" rel="nofollow">The Commodordion Gets A Big Usability Upgrade</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pdftris-is-a-tetris-game-inside-a-pdf-which-runs-in-any-modern-pc-browser" rel="nofollow">Tetris packed inside a PDF file to run in any PC browser — Pdftris runs from a 60KB PDF</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/14/doom_delivered_in_a_pdf/" rel="nofollow">They&#39;ve only gone and made Doom run in a PDF file</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/01/01/protect-your-site-with-a-doom-captcha/" rel="nofollow">Protect Your Site With A DOOM Captcha</a><br></li>
<li><a href="http://tomshardware.com/software/linux/minimal-linux-os-runs-in-a-6mb-pdf-document-in-chrome-linuxpdf-leverages-risc-v-emulator" rel="nofollow">Minimal Linux OS runs in a 6MB PDF document in Chrome — LinuxPDF leverages RISC-V emulator</a></li>
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