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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “End To End Encryption”</title>
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    <pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
    <description>David Egts and Gunnar Hellekson discuss privacy, security, robots, and internet ephemera.
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    <itunes:subtitle>Not our circus, not our monkey.</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
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  <title>Episode 218: What Would Marlie Do?</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about Marlie Moxinspike, Beyoncé, and Adele!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>40:30</itunes:duration>
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  <description>  101st Airborne Division (https://www.army.mil/101stAirborne)
  D&amp;amp;G 189: Marlie Moxinspike (https://dgshow.org/189)
  The battle inside Signal (https://www.platformer.news/p/-the-battle-inside-signal)
  See also: Can WhatsApp stop spreading misinformation without compromising encryption? (https://qz.com/1978077/can-whatsapp-stop-misinformation-without-compromising-encryption/)
  What You Should Know Before Leaking a Zoom Meeting (https://theintercept.com/2021/01/18/leak-zoom-meeting/)
  The ‘Batman Effect’: How having an alter ego empowers you (https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200817-the-batman-effect-how-having-an-alter-ego-empowers-you)
Cutting Room Floor
*   DIY latex glove bagpipes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y95I0rb1JoU)
*   Bagpipe swing with Gunhild Carling in Central Park NY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RbVuDuCYMY)
*   Menu items renamed as expense-able office items (https://www.ubereats.com/ca/toronto/food-delivery/good-fortune-burger-college/SlS7Rn6dQ1SVb59NxiWt5A)
*   Blue Check Homes: Apply now! (https://bluecheckhomes.com/)
*   Evidence of Life: Two Photographers Show Us Mysteries In The Mundane – 1977 (https://flashbak.com/evidence-mike-mandel-larry-sultan-1970s-found-photos-435986/)
*   Faraday Cages for Wi-Fi Routers Are the Latest 5G Conspiracy Grift (https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgzgw4/faraday-cages-for-wi-fi-routers-are-the-latest-5g-conspiracy-grift)
We Give Thanks
*   The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
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  <itunes:keywords>101st Airborne Division, Marlie Moxenspike, Moxie Marlinspike, Signal, WhatsApp, end-to-end encryption, Zoom, watermarking, Batman, Batman Effect, bagpipes, office items, Blue Check Homes, Faraday cages, wi-fi, 5G</itunes:keywords>
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<li>  <a href="https://www.army.mil/101stAirborne" rel="nofollow">101st Airborne Division</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://dgshow.org/189" rel="nofollow">D&amp;G 189: Marlie Moxinspike</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.platformer.news/p/-the-battle-inside-signal" rel="nofollow">The battle inside Signal</a>

<ul>
<li>  See also: <a href="https://qz.com/1978077/can-whatsapp-stop-misinformation-without-compromising-encryption/" rel="nofollow">Can WhatsApp stop spreading misinformation without compromising encryption?</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://theintercept.com/2021/01/18/leak-zoom-meeting/" rel="nofollow">What You Should Know Before Leaking a Zoom Meeting</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200817-the-batman-effect-how-having-an-alter-ego-empowers-you" rel="nofollow">The ‘Batman Effect’: How having an alter ego empowers you</a></li>
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<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y95I0rb1JoU" rel="nofollow">DIY latex glove bagpipes</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RbVuDuCYMY" rel="nofollow">Bagpipe swing with Gunhild Carling in Central Park NY</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.ubereats.com/ca/toronto/food-delivery/good-fortune-burger-college/SlS7Rn6dQ1SVb59NxiWt5A" rel="nofollow">Menu items renamed as expense-able office items</a></li>
<li>  Blue Check Homes: <a href="https://bluecheckhomes.com/" rel="nofollow">Apply now!</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://flashbak.com/evidence-mike-mandel-larry-sultan-1970s-found-photos-435986/" rel="nofollow">Evidence of Life: Two Photographers Show Us Mysteries In The Mundane – 1977</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgzgw4/faraday-cages-for-wi-fi-routers-are-the-latest-5g-conspiracy-grift" rel="nofollow">Faraday Cages for Wi-Fi Routers Are the Latest 5G Conspiracy Grift</a></li>
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<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
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<li>  <a href="https://www.army.mil/101stAirborne" rel="nofollow">101st Airborne Division</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://dgshow.org/189" rel="nofollow">D&amp;G 189: Marlie Moxinspike</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.platformer.news/p/-the-battle-inside-signal" rel="nofollow">The battle inside Signal</a>

<ul>
<li>  See also: <a href="https://qz.com/1978077/can-whatsapp-stop-misinformation-without-compromising-encryption/" rel="nofollow">Can WhatsApp stop spreading misinformation without compromising encryption?</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://theintercept.com/2021/01/18/leak-zoom-meeting/" rel="nofollow">What You Should Know Before Leaking a Zoom Meeting</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200817-the-batman-effect-how-having-an-alter-ego-empowers-you" rel="nofollow">The ‘Batman Effect’: How having an alter ego empowers you</a></li>
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<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y95I0rb1JoU" rel="nofollow">DIY latex glove bagpipes</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RbVuDuCYMY" rel="nofollow">Bagpipe swing with Gunhild Carling in Central Park NY</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.ubereats.com/ca/toronto/food-delivery/good-fortune-burger-college/SlS7Rn6dQ1SVb59NxiWt5A" rel="nofollow">Menu items renamed as expense-able office items</a></li>
<li>  Blue Check Homes: <a href="https://bluecheckhomes.com/" rel="nofollow">Apply now!</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://flashbak.com/evidence-mike-mandel-larry-sultan-1970s-found-photos-435986/" rel="nofollow">Evidence of Life: Two Photographers Show Us Mysteries In The Mundane – 1977</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgzgw4/faraday-cages-for-wi-fi-routers-are-the-latest-5g-conspiracy-grift" rel="nofollow">Faraday Cages for Wi-Fi Routers Are the Latest 5G Conspiracy Grift</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 203: Who are you following and who's following you?</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave talks with Andrea Hall about keeping kids and adults safe on the internet and the pros and cons of end-to-end encryption from all angles!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>37:13</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://twitter.com/davidegts) talks with Andrea Hall (https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-h-62363b1a2/) about keeping kids and adults safe on the internet and the pros and cons of end-to-end encryption from all angles!
  Is TikTok Spying On You For China? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/07/25/beware-tiktok-really-is-spying-on-you-new-security-report-update-trump-pompeo-china-warning/)
  Is the US trying to steal TikTok? (https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/tech/tiktok-chinese-media-intl-hnk/index.html)
  Trump issues orders banning TikTok and WeChat from operating in 45 days if they are not sold by Chinese parent companies (https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/06/politics/trump-executive-order-tiktok/index.html)
  Facebook (https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/facebook-privacy-settings/), TikTok (https://www.forbes.com/sites/tjmccue/2020/02/13/is-tiktok-raiding-your-privacy-in-2020-here-is-how-to-stop-it/#460f12a269c8), and you (and your kids)
  Bark (https://www.bark.us/)
  Project VIC (https://www.projectvic.org/our-work/): A 501(c)(3) nonprofit helping to identify and rescue children from sexual exploitation, globally. Donations help save kids!
  National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (https://www.missingkids.org/)
  KidSmartz (https://www.kidsmartz.org/)
  Facebook Helped the FBI Hack a Child Predator (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7gd9b/facebook-helped-fbi-hack-child-predator-buster-hernandez)
  Encryption != privacy(?): Operation (노스 스타) North Star A Job Offer That’s Too Good to be True? (https://www.mcafee.com/blogs/other-blogs/mcafee-labs/operation-north-star-a-job-offer-thats-too-good-to-be-true/?hilite=%27north%27%2C%27star%27)
  NSA warns of security threats from mobile device data (https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/510519-nsa-warns-of-security-threats-from-mobile-location-data)
  Why end-to-end encryption laws matter to all of us (https://www.itproportal.com/features/why-end-to-end-encryption-laws-matter-to-all-of-us/)
We Give Thanks
*   Andrea Hall (https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-h-62363b1a2/) for being our special guest star! Special Guest: Andrea Hall.
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>TikTok, China, WeChat, Facebook, Bark, Project VIC, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, KidSmartz, Tails, encryption, end-to-end encryption, privacy, North Korea, LinkedIn, mobile location data</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-h-62363b1a2/" rel="nofollow">Andrea Hall</a> about keeping kids and adults safe on the internet and the pros and cons of end-to-end encryption from all angles!</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/07/25/beware-tiktok-really-is-spying-on-you-new-security-report-update-trump-pompeo-china-warning/" rel="nofollow">Is TikTok Spying On You For China?</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/tech/tiktok-chinese-media-intl-hnk/index.html" rel="nofollow">Is the US trying to steal TikTok?</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/06/politics/trump-executive-order-tiktok/index.html" rel="nofollow">Trump issues orders banning TikTok and WeChat from operating in 45 days if they are not sold by Chinese parent companies</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/facebook-privacy-settings/" rel="nofollow">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/tjmccue/2020/02/13/is-tiktok-raiding-your-privacy-in-2020-here-is-how-to-stop-it/#460f12a269c8" rel="nofollow">TikTok</a>, and you (and your kids)

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.bark.us/" rel="nofollow">Bark</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.projectvic.org/our-work/" rel="nofollow">Project VIC</a>: A 501(c)(3) nonprofit helping to identify and rescue children from sexual exploitation, globally. Donations help save kids!</li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.missingkids.org/" rel="nofollow">National Center for Missing and Exploited Children</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.kidsmartz.org/" rel="nofollow">KidSmartz</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7gd9b/facebook-helped-fbi-hack-child-predator-buster-hernandez" rel="nofollow">Facebook Helped the FBI Hack a Child Predator</a></li>
<li>  Encryption != privacy(?): <a href="https://www.mcafee.com/blogs/other-blogs/mcafee-labs/operation-north-star-a-job-offer-thats-too-good-to-be-true/?hilite=%27north%27%2C%27star%27" rel="nofollow">Operation (노스 스타) North Star A Job Offer That’s Too Good to be True?</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/510519-nsa-warns-of-security-threats-from-mobile-location-data" rel="nofollow">NSA warns of security threats from mobile device data</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.itproportal.com/features/why-end-to-end-encryption-laws-matter-to-all-of-us/" rel="nofollow">Why end-to-end encryption laws matter to all of us</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-h-62363b1a2/" rel="nofollow">Andrea Hall</a> for being our special guest star!</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Andrea Hall.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-h-62363b1a2/" rel="nofollow">Andrea Hall</a> about keeping kids and adults safe on the internet and the pros and cons of end-to-end encryption from all angles!</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/07/25/beware-tiktok-really-is-spying-on-you-new-security-report-update-trump-pompeo-china-warning/" rel="nofollow">Is TikTok Spying On You For China?</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/tech/tiktok-chinese-media-intl-hnk/index.html" rel="nofollow">Is the US trying to steal TikTok?</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/06/politics/trump-executive-order-tiktok/index.html" rel="nofollow">Trump issues orders banning TikTok and WeChat from operating in 45 days if they are not sold by Chinese parent companies</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/facebook-privacy-settings/" rel="nofollow">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/tjmccue/2020/02/13/is-tiktok-raiding-your-privacy-in-2020-here-is-how-to-stop-it/#460f12a269c8" rel="nofollow">TikTok</a>, and you (and your kids)

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.bark.us/" rel="nofollow">Bark</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.projectvic.org/our-work/" rel="nofollow">Project VIC</a>: A 501(c)(3) nonprofit helping to identify and rescue children from sexual exploitation, globally. Donations help save kids!</li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.missingkids.org/" rel="nofollow">National Center for Missing and Exploited Children</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.kidsmartz.org/" rel="nofollow">KidSmartz</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7gd9b/facebook-helped-fbi-hack-child-predator-buster-hernandez" rel="nofollow">Facebook Helped the FBI Hack a Child Predator</a></li>
<li>  Encryption != privacy(?): <a href="https://www.mcafee.com/blogs/other-blogs/mcafee-labs/operation-north-star-a-job-offer-thats-too-good-to-be-true/?hilite=%27north%27%2C%27star%27" rel="nofollow">Operation (노스 스타) North Star A Job Offer That’s Too Good to be True?</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/510519-nsa-warns-of-security-threats-from-mobile-location-data" rel="nofollow">NSA warns of security threats from mobile device data</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.itproportal.com/features/why-end-to-end-encryption-laws-matter-to-all-of-us/" rel="nofollow">Why end-to-end encryption laws matter to all of us</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-h-62363b1a2/" rel="nofollow">Andrea Hall</a> for being our special guest star!</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Andrea Hall.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 199: One Episode Is a Tragedy. 200 Episodes Is a Statistic.</title>
  <link>https://dgshow.org/199</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about communicating through masks, communicating through lightbulbs, communicating through tiny capacitive membranes connected to small quarter-wavelength antennae, and communicating through nuclear semiotics.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>34:34</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://twitter.com/davidegts) and Gunnar (http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about) talk about communicating through masks, communicating through lightbulbs, communicating through tiny capacitive membranes connected to small quarter-wavelength antennae, and communicating through nuclear semiotics.
  New Model Y: Checklist (https://github.com/polymorphic/tesla-model-y-checklist)
  D&amp;amp;G Viewer Mail: Jason Barton (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonnbarton/) writes...
I was laughing inside about how your one team in just yourselves influences me and spends time with me and how so many people are now the radio shows and tv shows of the past and “coming into my home”.  Except now your presence is letting me live a more well balanced and richer life. I don’t listen on the front porch or by the pool because I’m so dedicated to my work I gotta get it all. I do it cause I like it all. So my life is richer and more manageable ... I’m a better Dad and provider ... and I even get to approach something resembling “competence” that’s frankly a bit out of my league but I aspire to.  All while feeling like there are people like yourselves making an effort that allows me to savour it rather than have to gorge on it. That’s a luxury. So thanks. My life’s better for it. I guess that’s really what I wanted to say.
  Zoom to offer end-to-end encryption for all users, trial to begin in July (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-zoom-encryption/zoom-to-offer-end-to-end-encryption-for-all-users-trial-to-begin-in-july-idUSKBN23O2Z3)
  These transparent face masks could make our interactions a little less awkward (https://www.fastcompany.com/90515141/these-transparent-face-masks-will-make-our-interactions-a-little-less-awkward)
  Lamphone attack lets threat actors recover conversations from your light bulb (https://www.zdnet.com/article/lamphone-attack-lets-threat-actors-recover-conversations-from-your-light-bulb/)
  See also: The Thing (listening device) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)) at the National Cryptologic Museum (https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/museum/)
  Nuclear semiotics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-time_nuclear_waste_warning_messages)
  Live Laugh Love version (https://twitter.com/nuclearkatie/status/1233121795621912578)
  99% Invisible: Ten Thousand Years (https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/ten-thousand-years/)
  Nuclear Warning Competition (https://www.archdaily.com/884756/winners-of-landmark-for-nuclear-waste-isolation-announced)
Cutting Room Floor
*   Red Bot Chili Peppers’ Tool Shed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd07HZCzVEU&amp;amp;list=PLoIUp-A8EDmrY0cJzEkioaeE0HEJCzjoX&amp;amp;index=4)
*   Artificial Intelligence Brings to Life Figures from 7 Famous Paintings: The Mona Lisa, Birth of Venus &amp;amp; More (http://www.openculture.com/2020/06/artificial-intelligence-brings-to-life-figures-from-7-famous-paintings-the-mona-lisa-birth-of-venus-more.html)
*   Cameo - All in Zoom Calls (https://www.cameo.com/tags/zoom-calls?sortBy=price_asc&amp;amp;page=1)
We Give Thanks
*   Jason Barton (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonnbarton/) for savouring the show!
*   The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Tesla, Model Y, Viewer Mail, Zoom, end-to-end encryption, face masks, HelloMasks, Lamphone, light bulbs, The Thing, listening devices, nuclear semiotics, semiotics, Red Bot Chili Peppers, Tool Shed, Cameo</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about communicating through masks, communicating through lightbulbs, communicating through tiny capacitive membranes connected to small quarter-wavelength antennae, and communicating through nuclear semiotics.</p>

<ul>
<li>  New Model Y: <a href="https://github.com/polymorphic/tesla-model-y-checklist" rel="nofollow">Checklist</a></li>
<li>  D&amp;G Viewer Mail: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonnbarton/" rel="nofollow">Jason Barton</a> writes...</li>
</ul>

<blockquote>
<p>I was laughing inside about how your one team in just yourselves influences me and spends time with me and how so many people are now the radio shows and tv shows of the past and “coming into my home”.  Except now your presence is letting me live a more well balanced and richer life. I don’t listen on the front porch or by the pool because I’m so dedicated to my work I gotta get it all. I do it cause I like it all. So my life is richer and more manageable ... I’m a better Dad and provider ... and I even get to approach something resembling “competence” that’s frankly a bit out of my league but I aspire to.  All while feeling like there are people like yourselves making an effort that allows me to savour it rather than have to gorge on it. That’s a luxury. So thanks. My life’s better for it. I guess that’s really what I wanted to say.</p>
</blockquote>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-zoom-encryption/zoom-to-offer-end-to-end-encryption-for-all-users-trial-to-begin-in-july-idUSKBN23O2Z3" rel="nofollow">Zoom to offer end-to-end encryption for all users, trial to begin in July</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/90515141/these-transparent-face-masks-will-make-our-interactions-a-little-less-awkward" rel="nofollow">These transparent face masks could make our interactions a little less awkward</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/lamphone-attack-lets-threat-actors-recover-conversations-from-your-light-bulb/" rel="nofollow">Lamphone attack lets threat actors recover conversations from your light bulb</a>

<ul>
<li>  See also: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)" rel="nofollow">The Thing (listening device)</a> at the <a href="https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/museum/" rel="nofollow">National Cryptologic Museum</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-time_nuclear_waste_warning_messages" rel="nofollow">Nuclear semiotics</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://twitter.com/nuclearkatie/status/1233121795621912578" rel="nofollow">Live Laugh Love version</a></li>
<li>  99% Invisible: <a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/ten-thousand-years/" rel="nofollow">Ten Thousand Years</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.archdaily.com/884756/winners-of-landmark-for-nuclear-waste-isolation-announced" rel="nofollow">Nuclear Warning Competition</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd07HZCzVEU&list=PLoIUp-A8EDmrY0cJzEkioaeE0HEJCzjoX&index=4" rel="nofollow">Red Bot Chili Peppers’ Tool Shed</a></li>
<li>  <a href="http://www.openculture.com/2020/06/artificial-intelligence-brings-to-life-figures-from-7-famous-paintings-the-mona-lisa-birth-of-venus-more.html" rel="nofollow">Artificial Intelligence Brings to Life Figures from 7 Famous Paintings: The Mona Lisa, Birth of Venus &amp; More</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.cameo.com/tags/zoom-calls?sortBy=price_asc&page=1" rel="nofollow">Cameo - All in Zoom Calls</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonnbarton/" rel="nofollow">Jason Barton</a> for savouring the show!</li>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about communicating through masks, communicating through lightbulbs, communicating through tiny capacitive membranes connected to small quarter-wavelength antennae, and communicating through nuclear semiotics.</p>

<ul>
<li>  New Model Y: <a href="https://github.com/polymorphic/tesla-model-y-checklist" rel="nofollow">Checklist</a></li>
<li>  D&amp;G Viewer Mail: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonnbarton/" rel="nofollow">Jason Barton</a> writes...</li>
</ul>

<blockquote>
<p>I was laughing inside about how your one team in just yourselves influences me and spends time with me and how so many people are now the radio shows and tv shows of the past and “coming into my home”.  Except now your presence is letting me live a more well balanced and richer life. I don’t listen on the front porch or by the pool because I’m so dedicated to my work I gotta get it all. I do it cause I like it all. So my life is richer and more manageable ... I’m a better Dad and provider ... and I even get to approach something resembling “competence” that’s frankly a bit out of my league but I aspire to.  All while feeling like there are people like yourselves making an effort that allows me to savour it rather than have to gorge on it. That’s a luxury. So thanks. My life’s better for it. I guess that’s really what I wanted to say.</p>
</blockquote>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-zoom-encryption/zoom-to-offer-end-to-end-encryption-for-all-users-trial-to-begin-in-july-idUSKBN23O2Z3" rel="nofollow">Zoom to offer end-to-end encryption for all users, trial to begin in July</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/90515141/these-transparent-face-masks-will-make-our-interactions-a-little-less-awkward" rel="nofollow">These transparent face masks could make our interactions a little less awkward</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/lamphone-attack-lets-threat-actors-recover-conversations-from-your-light-bulb/" rel="nofollow">Lamphone attack lets threat actors recover conversations from your light bulb</a>

<ul>
<li>  See also: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)" rel="nofollow">The Thing (listening device)</a> at the <a href="https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/museum/" rel="nofollow">National Cryptologic Museum</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-time_nuclear_waste_warning_messages" rel="nofollow">Nuclear semiotics</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://twitter.com/nuclearkatie/status/1233121795621912578" rel="nofollow">Live Laugh Love version</a></li>
<li>  99% Invisible: <a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/ten-thousand-years/" rel="nofollow">Ten Thousand Years</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.archdaily.com/884756/winners-of-landmark-for-nuclear-waste-isolation-announced" rel="nofollow">Nuclear Warning Competition</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd07HZCzVEU&list=PLoIUp-A8EDmrY0cJzEkioaeE0HEJCzjoX&index=4" rel="nofollow">Red Bot Chili Peppers’ Tool Shed</a></li>
<li>  <a href="http://www.openculture.com/2020/06/artificial-intelligence-brings-to-life-figures-from-7-famous-paintings-the-mona-lisa-birth-of-venus-more.html" rel="nofollow">Artificial Intelligence Brings to Life Figures from 7 Famous Paintings: The Mona Lisa, Birth of Venus &amp; More</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.cameo.com/tags/zoom-calls?sortBy=price_asc&page=1" rel="nofollow">Cameo - All in Zoom Calls</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonnbarton/" rel="nofollow">Jason Barton</a> for savouring the show!</li>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 197: Masks Are Like Pants for Your Face</title>
  <link>https://dgshow.org/197</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about masks with mouths, parks with robots, Zoom with security sold separately, and hotels with larcenists</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>40:57</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/1b67eddd-d80f-444d-ba32-aa9ef36b589d/episodes/b/be5b35d4-4056-4236-92eb-ae03e86fbc44/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>This week Dave (https://twitter.com/davidegts) and Gunnar (http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about) talk about masks with mouths, parks with robots, Zoom with security sold separately, and hotels with larcenists
  Sole F80 Treadmill (https://www.soletreadmills.com/treadmills/f80-sole-treadmill)
  Couch to 5k (https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/couch-to-5k-week-by-week/)
  [The Great Influenza](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29036.TheGreatInfluenza)
  Covering Covid: Backlash (https://www.npr.org/transcripts/849695185) (not a 99% Invisible episode as Gunnar claimed, but Masking for a Friend (https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/masking-for-a-friend/) is a 99% Invisible episode, and a great second choice on the topic of masks)
  IRK-2 Infrared Thermometer (https://www.thermoworks.com/IRK-2) (ships with a free packet of Jelly Bellies!)
  Israeli Inventors Have Developed A Coronavirus Mask With A Remote Control Mouth That Lets Diners Eat Food Without Taking It Off (https://designyoutrust.com/2020/05/israeli-inventors-have-developed-a-coronavirus-mask-with-a-remote-control-mouth-that-lets-diners-eat-food-without-taking-it-off/)
  Señor Wences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se%C3%B1or_Wences)
  Brooks Brothers masks (https://www.brooksbrothers.com/Face-Masks/MU00250_____MISC_ONE__SIZE,default,pd.html)
  HT Johannes Swanepoel (https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannesswanepoel1/): Robot reminds visitors of safe distancing measures in Bishan-Ang Mo Kio Park (https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/robot-reminds-visitors-about-safe-distancing-measures-in-bishan-ang-mo-kio-park)
  Zoom Acquires Keybase and Announces Goal of Developing the Most Broadly Used Enterprise End-to-End Encryption Offering (https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/05/07/zoom-acquires-keybase-and-announces-goal-of-developing-the-most-broadly-used-enterprise-end-to-end-encryption-offering/)
  Exclusive: Zoom Plans to Roll Out Strong Encryption for Paying Customers (https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/05/30/business/30reuters-zoom-encryption-exclusive.html)
  Hotel thieves aren’t stealing toiletries – but framed art, TVs, a fireplace (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/23/things-people-steal-from-hotels-why)
Cutting Room Floor
*   This MP Does Not Exist (https://vole.wtf/this-mp-does-not-exist/)
*   This Word Does Not Exist (https://www.thisworddoesnotexist.com/)
*   Deep fake cartoon voices (https://fifteen.ai/)
*   The Notorious B.I.G. raps "I Am the Very Model of a Modern Major-General" (Speech Synthesis) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LNkko6JZZ8)
*   Gilbert Gottfried reads the Book of Genesis (Speech Synthesis) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GF0OTw3GBs)
*   Saudi menu (https://twitter.com/vladadraws/status/1264355635434418177)
We Give Thanks
*   The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!
*   Johannes Swanepoel (https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannesswanepoel1/) for the robocop dog report! 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Sole, treadmills, The Great Influenza, 99 Percent Invisible, thermometers, masks, Señor Wences, Brooks Brothers, Robocop, Robocop dog, social distancing, Keybase, Zoom, end-to-end encryption, hotels, larceny</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about masks with mouths, parks with robots, Zoom with security sold separately, and hotels with larcenists</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.soletreadmills.com/treadmills/f80-sole-treadmill" rel="nofollow">Sole F80 Treadmill</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/couch-to-5k-week-by-week/" rel="nofollow">Couch to 5k</a></li>
<li>  <em><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29036.The_Great_Influenza" rel="nofollow">The Great Influenza</a></em></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/849695185" rel="nofollow">Covering Covid: Backlash</a> (not a <em>99% Invisible</em> episode as Gunnar claimed, but <a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/masking-for-a-friend/" rel="nofollow">Masking for a Friend</a> <strong>is</strong> a <em>99% Invisible</em> episode, and a great second choice on the topic of masks)</li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.thermoworks.com/IRK-2" rel="nofollow">IRK-2 Infrared Thermometer</a> (ships with a free packet of Jelly Bellies!)</li>
<li>  <a href="https://designyoutrust.com/2020/05/israeli-inventors-have-developed-a-coronavirus-mask-with-a-remote-control-mouth-that-lets-diners-eat-food-without-taking-it-off/" rel="nofollow">Israeli Inventors Have Developed A Coronavirus Mask With A Remote Control Mouth That Lets Diners Eat Food Without Taking It Off</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se%C3%B1or_Wences" rel="nofollow">Señor Wences</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.brooksbrothers.com/Face-Masks/MU00250_____MISC_ONE__SIZE,default,pd.html" rel="nofollow">Brooks Brothers masks</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  HT <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannesswanepoel1/" rel="nofollow">Johannes Swanepoel</a>: <a href="https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/robot-reminds-visitors-about-safe-distancing-measures-in-bishan-ang-mo-kio-park" rel="nofollow">Robot reminds visitors of safe distancing measures in Bishan-Ang Mo Kio Park</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/05/07/zoom-acquires-keybase-and-announces-goal-of-developing-the-most-broadly-used-enterprise-end-to-end-encryption-offering/" rel="nofollow">Zoom Acquires Keybase and Announces Goal of Developing the Most Broadly Used Enterprise End-to-End Encryption Offering</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/05/30/business/30reuters-zoom-encryption-exclusive.html" rel="nofollow">Exclusive: Zoom Plans to Roll Out Strong Encryption for Paying Customers</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/23/things-people-steal-from-hotels-why" rel="nofollow">Hotel thieves aren’t stealing toiletries – but framed art, TVs, a fireplace</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://vole.wtf/this-mp-does-not-exist/" rel="nofollow">This MP Does Not Exist</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.thisworddoesnotexist.com/" rel="nofollow">This Word Does Not Exist</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://fifteen.ai/" rel="nofollow">Deep fake cartoon voices</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LNkko6JZZ8" rel="nofollow">The Notorious B.I.G. raps &quot;I Am the Very Model of a Modern Major-General&quot; (Speech Synthesis)</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GF0OTw3GBs" rel="nofollow">Gilbert Gottfried reads the Book of Genesis (Speech Synthesis)</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://twitter.com/vladadraws/status/1264355635434418177" rel="nofollow">Saudi menu</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannesswanepoel1/" rel="nofollow">Johannes Swanepoel</a> for the robocop dog report!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about masks with mouths, parks with robots, Zoom with security sold separately, and hotels with larcenists</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.soletreadmills.com/treadmills/f80-sole-treadmill" rel="nofollow">Sole F80 Treadmill</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/couch-to-5k-week-by-week/" rel="nofollow">Couch to 5k</a></li>
<li>  <em><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29036.The_Great_Influenza" rel="nofollow">The Great Influenza</a></em></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/849695185" rel="nofollow">Covering Covid: Backlash</a> (not a <em>99% Invisible</em> episode as Gunnar claimed, but <a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/masking-for-a-friend/" rel="nofollow">Masking for a Friend</a> <strong>is</strong> a <em>99% Invisible</em> episode, and a great second choice on the topic of masks)</li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.thermoworks.com/IRK-2" rel="nofollow">IRK-2 Infrared Thermometer</a> (ships with a free packet of Jelly Bellies!)</li>
<li>  <a href="https://designyoutrust.com/2020/05/israeli-inventors-have-developed-a-coronavirus-mask-with-a-remote-control-mouth-that-lets-diners-eat-food-without-taking-it-off/" rel="nofollow">Israeli Inventors Have Developed A Coronavirus Mask With A Remote Control Mouth That Lets Diners Eat Food Without Taking It Off</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se%C3%B1or_Wences" rel="nofollow">Señor Wences</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.brooksbrothers.com/Face-Masks/MU00250_____MISC_ONE__SIZE,default,pd.html" rel="nofollow">Brooks Brothers masks</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  HT <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannesswanepoel1/" rel="nofollow">Johannes Swanepoel</a>: <a href="https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/robot-reminds-visitors-about-safe-distancing-measures-in-bishan-ang-mo-kio-park" rel="nofollow">Robot reminds visitors of safe distancing measures in Bishan-Ang Mo Kio Park</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/05/07/zoom-acquires-keybase-and-announces-goal-of-developing-the-most-broadly-used-enterprise-end-to-end-encryption-offering/" rel="nofollow">Zoom Acquires Keybase and Announces Goal of Developing the Most Broadly Used Enterprise End-to-End Encryption Offering</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/05/30/business/30reuters-zoom-encryption-exclusive.html" rel="nofollow">Exclusive: Zoom Plans to Roll Out Strong Encryption for Paying Customers</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/23/things-people-steal-from-hotels-why" rel="nofollow">Hotel thieves aren’t stealing toiletries – but framed art, TVs, a fireplace</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://vole.wtf/this-mp-does-not-exist/" rel="nofollow">This MP Does Not Exist</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.thisworddoesnotexist.com/" rel="nofollow">This Word Does Not Exist</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://fifteen.ai/" rel="nofollow">Deep fake cartoon voices</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LNkko6JZZ8" rel="nofollow">The Notorious B.I.G. raps &quot;I Am the Very Model of a Modern Major-General&quot; (Speech Synthesis)</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GF0OTw3GBs" rel="nofollow">Gilbert Gottfried reads the Book of Genesis (Speech Synthesis)</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://twitter.com/vladadraws/status/1264355635434418177" rel="nofollow">Saudi menu</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannesswanepoel1/" rel="nofollow">Johannes Swanepoel</a> for the robocop dog report!</li>
</ul>]]>
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