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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Fake News”</title>
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  <title>Episode 253: Better Than a Stick in the Eye</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about poisoned USB drives, poisoned web searches, poisoned AI models, and a guy pretending to be a mannequin</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about poisoned USB drives, poisoned web searches, poisoned AI models, and a guy pretending to be a mannequin
Gunnar says the Oura Ring (https://ouraring.com/) is delightful
Dave achieves Platinum Pro (https://exploreamerican.com/platinumprostatus/)?
Dave becomes an author using AI (https://www.youtube.com/@TheNerdyNovelist)?
Diabolic Drive Stealthily Injects Keyboard Strokes While Being a Functional USB Drive (https://www.hackster.io/news/diabolic-drive-stealthily-injects-keyboard-strokes-while-being-a-functional-usb-drive-cd255a46db2d)
Chatbot Hallucinations Are Poisoning Web Search (https://www.wired.com/story/fast-forward-chatbot-hallucinations-are-poisoning-web-search/)
Related: Google’s AI assistant can now read your emails, plan trips, “double-check” answers (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/googles-ai-assistant-can-now-read-your-emails-plan-trips-double-check-answers/)
Related: Spotify Has an AI Music Problem—but Bots Love It (https://www.wired.com/story/spotify-ai-music-robot-listeners/)
Meet Nightshade, the new tool allowing artists to ‘poison’ AI models with corrupted training data (https://venturebeat.com/ai/meet-nightshade-the-new-tool-allowing-artists-to-poison-ai-models-with-corrupted-training-data/)
Polish police arrest man who pretended to be a mannequin before stealing jewellery (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-21/polish-police-arrest-thief-who-pretended-to-be-mannequin/103005598)
Related: Fake Waffle House worker steals from register at end of her ‘shift,’ Georgia police say (https://news.yahoo.com/fake-waffle-house-worker-steals-131226183.html)
PARA method (https://fortelabs.com/blog/para/): corny, but it works!
Cutting Room Floor
* Blood Sugar Sex Magik, but it's Donkey Kong Country (Full Album) (https://youtu.be/7HNRQJ-DdNg?t=1066)
* RATM - Killing in the Name, but it's Sega Genesis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJBJ9O9WoV0)
* News Broadcasts from Alternate Histories (https://www.neatorama.com/2023/11/29/News-Broadcasts-from-Alternate-Histories/)
    * The New Order is a narrative-driven Hearts of Iron 4 mod that’s compelling and bleak (https://www.wargamer.com/hearts-of-iron-4/mod-the-new-order)
* The Talk: Kanye West &amp;amp; Elon Musk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TxtTF_dUHQ)
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
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  <itunes:keywords>Oura Ring, American Airlines, Platinum Pro, AI, writing, Diabolic Drive, USB, thumb drives, chatbots, poisoning, Spotify, AI-generated content, Nightshade, Poland, police, jewelry, Waffle House, theft, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Country, Rage Against the Machine, Sega, Sega Genesis, fake news, alternate histories, Kanye West, Elon Musk</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about poisoned USB drives, poisoned web searches, poisoned AI models, and a guy pretending to be a mannequin</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar says the <a href="https://ouraring.com/" rel="nofollow">Oura Ring</a> is delightful</li>
<li>Dave achieves <a href="https://exploreamerican.com/platinumprostatus/" rel="nofollow">Platinum Pro</a>?</li>
<li>Dave becomes an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheNerdyNovelist" rel="nofollow">author using AI</a>?</li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/diabolic-drive-stealthily-injects-keyboard-strokes-while-being-a-functional-usb-drive-cd255a46db2d" rel="nofollow">Diabolic Drive Stealthily Injects Keyboard Strokes While Being a Functional USB Drive</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/fast-forward-chatbot-hallucinations-are-poisoning-web-search/" rel="nofollow">Chatbot Hallucinations Are Poisoning Web Search</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/googles-ai-assistant-can-now-read-your-emails-plan-trips-double-check-answers/" rel="nofollow">Google’s AI assistant can now read your emails, plan trips, “double-check” answers</a></li>
<li>Related: <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/spotify-ai-music-robot-listeners/" rel="nofollow">Spotify Has an AI Music Problem—but Bots Love It</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://venturebeat.com/ai/meet-nightshade-the-new-tool-allowing-artists-to-poison-ai-models-with-corrupted-training-data/" rel="nofollow">Meet Nightshade, the new tool allowing artists to ‘poison’ AI models with corrupted training data</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-21/polish-police-arrest-thief-who-pretended-to-be-mannequin/103005598" rel="nofollow">Polish police arrest man who pretended to be a mannequin before stealing jewellery</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://news.yahoo.com/fake-waffle-house-worker-steals-131226183.html" rel="nofollow">Fake Waffle House worker steals from register at end of her ‘shift,’ Georgia police say</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://fortelabs.com/blog/para/" rel="nofollow">PARA method</a>: corny, but it works!</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/7HNRQJ-DdNg?t=1066" rel="nofollow">Blood Sugar Sex Magik, but it&#39;s Donkey Kong Country (Full Album)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJBJ9O9WoV0" rel="nofollow">RATM - Killing in the Name, but it&#39;s Sega Genesis</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2023/11/29/News-Broadcasts-from-Alternate-Histories/" rel="nofollow">News Broadcasts from Alternate Histories</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wargamer.com/hearts-of-iron-4/mod-the-new-order" rel="nofollow">The New Order is a narrative-driven Hearts of Iron 4 mod that’s compelling and bleak</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TxtTF_dUHQ" rel="nofollow">The Talk: Kanye West &amp; Elon Musk</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about poisoned USB drives, poisoned web searches, poisoned AI models, and a guy pretending to be a mannequin</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar says the <a href="https://ouraring.com/" rel="nofollow">Oura Ring</a> is delightful</li>
<li>Dave achieves <a href="https://exploreamerican.com/platinumprostatus/" rel="nofollow">Platinum Pro</a>?</li>
<li>Dave becomes an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheNerdyNovelist" rel="nofollow">author using AI</a>?</li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/diabolic-drive-stealthily-injects-keyboard-strokes-while-being-a-functional-usb-drive-cd255a46db2d" rel="nofollow">Diabolic Drive Stealthily Injects Keyboard Strokes While Being a Functional USB Drive</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/fast-forward-chatbot-hallucinations-are-poisoning-web-search/" rel="nofollow">Chatbot Hallucinations Are Poisoning Web Search</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/googles-ai-assistant-can-now-read-your-emails-plan-trips-double-check-answers/" rel="nofollow">Google’s AI assistant can now read your emails, plan trips, “double-check” answers</a></li>
<li>Related: <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/spotify-ai-music-robot-listeners/" rel="nofollow">Spotify Has an AI Music Problem—but Bots Love It</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://venturebeat.com/ai/meet-nightshade-the-new-tool-allowing-artists-to-poison-ai-models-with-corrupted-training-data/" rel="nofollow">Meet Nightshade, the new tool allowing artists to ‘poison’ AI models with corrupted training data</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-21/polish-police-arrest-thief-who-pretended-to-be-mannequin/103005598" rel="nofollow">Polish police arrest man who pretended to be a mannequin before stealing jewellery</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://news.yahoo.com/fake-waffle-house-worker-steals-131226183.html" rel="nofollow">Fake Waffle House worker steals from register at end of her ‘shift,’ Georgia police say</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://fortelabs.com/blog/para/" rel="nofollow">PARA method</a>: corny, but it works!</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/7HNRQJ-DdNg?t=1066" rel="nofollow">Blood Sugar Sex Magik, but it&#39;s Donkey Kong Country (Full Album)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJBJ9O9WoV0" rel="nofollow">RATM - Killing in the Name, but it&#39;s Sega Genesis</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2023/11/29/News-Broadcasts-from-Alternate-Histories/" rel="nofollow">News Broadcasts from Alternate Histories</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wargamer.com/hearts-of-iron-4/mod-the-new-order" rel="nofollow">The New Order is a narrative-driven Hearts of Iron 4 mod that’s compelling and bleak</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TxtTF_dUHQ" rel="nofollow">The Talk: Kanye West &amp; Elon Musk</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 182: Stochastic Fakery</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2019 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about faking faces, faking friends, faking holes, faking dominance, and faking work</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>27:54</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://twitter.com/davidegts) and Gunnar (http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about) talk about faking faces, faking friends, faking holes, faking dominance, and faking work
  Stochastic terrorism (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/stochastic-terrorism): Deplatforming 8chan, the First Amendment, the Communications Decency Act, and accountability
  Artificial Intelligence Is Coming for Our Faces (https://www.wired.com/story/artificial-intelligence-fake-fakes/)
  Which Face Is Real? (http://www.whichfaceisreal.com/)
  GROVER — A State-of-the-Art Defense against Neural Fake News (https://grover.allenai.org/)
  Catching a Unicorn with GLTR: A tool to detect automatically generated text (http://gltr.io/)
  Experts: Spy used AI-generated face to connect with targets (https://www.apnews.com/bc2f19097a4c4fffaa00de6770b8a60d)
  NVIDIA's AI fixes photos by recognizing what's missing (https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/24/nvidia-ai-fixes-photos/)
  Censorship of images in the Soviet Union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_images_in_the_Soviet_Union)
  Development of "whole body model automatic generation AI" which generates whole body image of non-existent person (https://datagrid.co.jp/en/all/release/386/)
  China has unveiled its 'first female AI news anchor' (https://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/china-has-unveiled-its-first-female-ai-news-anchor-1.828533)
  Speech2Face: Learning the Face Behind a Voice (https://speech2face.github.io/)
  Want to Look Dominant? Tilt Your Head Down, Study Says (https://www.neatorama.com/2019/06/18/Want-to-Look-Dominant-Tilt-Your-Head-Down-Study-Says/)
  'Netflix Hangouts' Chrome extension helps skivers binge shows at work (https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3078643/netflix-hangouts-chrome-extension-helps-lazy-f-ks-binge-shows-at-work)
Cutting Room Floor
*   Highway patrol pulls over hearse in Las Vegas high-occupancy vehicle lane. Is the body an occupant? (https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2019/07/02/hov-lane-las-vegas-hearse-does-dead-body-count-carpool/1629131001/)
*   Unnecessary Inventions (https://www.unnecessaryinventions.com/)
We Give Thanks
*   The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>stochastic terrorism, 8chan, AI, artificial intelligence, espionage, fake news, censorship, China, Speech2Face, dominance, Neflix, video conferencing, HOV, Unnecessary Inventions</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about faking faces, faking friends, faking holes, faking dominance, and faking work</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.dictionary.com/browse/stochastic-terrorism" rel="nofollow">Stochastic terrorism</a>: Deplatforming 8chan, the First Amendment, the Communications Decency Act, and accountability</li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/artificial-intelligence-fake-fakes/" rel="nofollow">Artificial Intelligence Is Coming for Our Faces</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="http://www.whichfaceisreal.com/" rel="nofollow">Which Face Is Real?</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://grover.allenai.org/" rel="nofollow">GROVER — A State-of-the-Art Defense against Neural Fake News</a></li>
<li>  <a href="http://gltr.io/" rel="nofollow">Catching a Unicorn with GLTR: A tool to detect automatically generated text</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.apnews.com/bc2f19097a4c4fffaa00de6770b8a60d" rel="nofollow">Experts: Spy used AI-generated face to connect with targets</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/24/nvidia-ai-fixes-photos/" rel="nofollow">NVIDIA&#39;s AI fixes photos by recognizing what&#39;s missing</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_images_in_the_Soviet_Union" rel="nofollow">Censorship of images in the Soviet Union</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://datagrid.co.jp/en/all/release/386/" rel="nofollow">Development of &quot;whole body model automatic generation AI&quot; which generates whole body image of non-existent person</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/china-has-unveiled-its-first-female-ai-news-anchor-1.828533" rel="nofollow">China has unveiled its &#39;first female AI news anchor&#39;</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://speech2face.github.io/" rel="nofollow">Speech2Face: Learning the Face Behind a Voice</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2019/06/18/Want-to-Look-Dominant-Tilt-Your-Head-Down-Study-Says/" rel="nofollow">Want to Look Dominant? Tilt Your Head Down, Study Says</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3078643/netflix-hangouts-chrome-extension-helps-lazy-f-ks-binge-shows-at-work" rel="nofollow">&#39;Netflix Hangouts&#39; Chrome extension helps skivers binge shows at work</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2019/07/02/hov-lane-las-vegas-hearse-does-dead-body-count-carpool/1629131001/" rel="nofollow">Highway patrol pulls over hearse in Las Vegas high-occupancy vehicle lane. Is the body an occupant?</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.unnecessaryinventions.com/" rel="nofollow">Unnecessary Inventions</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about faking faces, faking friends, faking holes, faking dominance, and faking work</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.dictionary.com/browse/stochastic-terrorism" rel="nofollow">Stochastic terrorism</a>: Deplatforming 8chan, the First Amendment, the Communications Decency Act, and accountability</li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/artificial-intelligence-fake-fakes/" rel="nofollow">Artificial Intelligence Is Coming for Our Faces</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="http://www.whichfaceisreal.com/" rel="nofollow">Which Face Is Real?</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://grover.allenai.org/" rel="nofollow">GROVER — A State-of-the-Art Defense against Neural Fake News</a></li>
<li>  <a href="http://gltr.io/" rel="nofollow">Catching a Unicorn with GLTR: A tool to detect automatically generated text</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.apnews.com/bc2f19097a4c4fffaa00de6770b8a60d" rel="nofollow">Experts: Spy used AI-generated face to connect with targets</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/24/nvidia-ai-fixes-photos/" rel="nofollow">NVIDIA&#39;s AI fixes photos by recognizing what&#39;s missing</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_images_in_the_Soviet_Union" rel="nofollow">Censorship of images in the Soviet Union</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://datagrid.co.jp/en/all/release/386/" rel="nofollow">Development of &quot;whole body model automatic generation AI&quot; which generates whole body image of non-existent person</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/china-has-unveiled-its-first-female-ai-news-anchor-1.828533" rel="nofollow">China has unveiled its &#39;first female AI news anchor&#39;</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://speech2face.github.io/" rel="nofollow">Speech2Face: Learning the Face Behind a Voice</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2019/06/18/Want-to-Look-Dominant-Tilt-Your-Head-Down-Study-Says/" rel="nofollow">Want to Look Dominant? Tilt Your Head Down, Study Says</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3078643/netflix-hangouts-chrome-extension-helps-lazy-f-ks-binge-shows-at-work" rel="nofollow">&#39;Netflix Hangouts&#39; Chrome extension helps skivers binge shows at work</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2019/07/02/hov-lane-las-vegas-hearse-does-dead-body-count-carpool/1629131001/" rel="nofollow">Highway patrol pulls over hearse in Las Vegas high-occupancy vehicle lane. Is the body an occupant?</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.unnecessaryinventions.com/" rel="nofollow">Unnecessary Inventions</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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