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  <title>Episode 278: I Know How the Butlerian Jihad Works</title>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about weaponized AI and seemingly conscious AI!
Virtual Customer Panels with Gemini Gems (https://gemini.google/overview/gems/)  
Dave vs. Ticketmaster (https://www.ticketmaster.com/)  
Totally unrelated: Cool Dad Raising Daughter On Media That Will Put Her Entirely Out Of Touch With Her Generation (https://theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that-will-put-her-en-1819572981/)  
Weaponizing image scaling against production AI systems (https://blog.trailofbits.com/2025/08/21/weaponizing-image-scaling-against-production-ai-systems/)  
Anthropic's Claude stocked a fridge with metal cubes when it was put in charge of a snacks business (https://www.engadget.com/ai/anthropics-claude-stocked-a-fridge-with-metal-cubes-when-it-was-put-in-charge-of-a-snacks-business-162750304.html)  
Seemingly Conscious AI (SCAI)  
We must build AI for people, not to be a person (https://mustafa-suleyman.ai/seemingly-conscious-ai-is-coming)  
Microsoft’s AI Chief Says Machine Consciousness Is an ‘Illusion’ (https://www.wired.com/story/microsofts-ai-chief-says-machine-consciousness-is-an-illusion/)  
Ohio lawmaker proposes comprehensive ban on marrying AI systems and granting legal personhood (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ohio-lawmaker-proposes-comprehensive-ban-on-marrying-ai-systems-and-granting-legal-personhood/ar-AA1OZhaG)
Cutting Room Floor
Hosting a WebSite on a Disposable Vape (https://bogdanthegeek.github.io/blog/projects/vapeserver/)  
How Many Phones Sport A 5 And 1/4 Diskette Drive? This One. (https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/how-many-phones-sport-a-5-and-1-4-diskette-drive-this-one/)  
1990 Airstream NASA 025 Command Vehicle. A Once-in-a-Lifetime Investment Opportunity (https://www.hemmings.com/listing/1990-airstream-all-models-478166)  
Steamed Hams but it's a Critically Acclaimed Feature Film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-Oq8iYtVA)  
See also:  
Steamed Hams but it was banned in the USSR (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVmw3ZhdzEs)  
Steamed Hams but it's a German Expressionist Film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsof0cwFPY0)  
Steamed Hams but it's in Nazi Germany (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY17_nraW68)  
The Simpsons - Worker and Parasite (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2_dhUv_CrI)
Possible inspiration for Worker and Parasite? (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/x9ze4c/possible_inspiration_for_worker_and_parasite/) 
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about weaponized AI and seemingly conscious AI!</p>

<ul>
<li>Virtual Customer Panels with <a href="https://gemini.google/overview/gems/" rel="nofollow">Gemini Gems</a><br></li>
<li>Dave vs. <a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/" rel="nofollow">Ticketmaster</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Totally unrelated: <a href="https://theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that-will-put-her-en-1819572981/" rel="nofollow">Cool Dad Raising Daughter On Media That Will Put Her Entirely Out Of Touch With Her Generation</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.trailofbits.com/2025/08/21/weaponizing-image-scaling-against-production-ai-systems/" rel="nofollow">Weaponizing image scaling against production AI systems</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.engadget.com/ai/anthropics-claude-stocked-a-fridge-with-metal-cubes-when-it-was-put-in-charge-of-a-snacks-business-162750304.html" rel="nofollow">Anthropic&#39;s Claude stocked a fridge with metal cubes when it was put in charge of a snacks business</a><br></li>
<li>Seemingly Conscious AI (SCAI)<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://mustafa-suleyman.ai/seemingly-conscious-ai-is-coming" rel="nofollow">We must build AI for people, not to be a person</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/microsofts-ai-chief-says-machine-consciousness-is-an-illusion/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft’s AI Chief Says Machine Consciousness Is an ‘Illusion’</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ohio-lawmaker-proposes-comprehensive-ban-on-marrying-ai-systems-and-granting-legal-personhood/ar-AA1OZhaG" rel="nofollow">Ohio lawmaker proposes comprehensive ban on marrying AI systems and granting legal personhood</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://bogdanthegeek.github.io/blog/projects/vapeserver/" rel="nofollow">Hosting a WebSite on a Disposable Vape</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/how-many-phones-sport-a-5-and-1-4-diskette-drive-this-one/" rel="nofollow">How Many Phones Sport A 5 And 1/4 Diskette Drive? This One.</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hemmings.com/listing/1990-airstream-all-models-478166" rel="nofollow">1990 Airstream NASA 025 Command Vehicle. A Once-in-a-Lifetime Investment Opportunity</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-Oq8iYtVA" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s a Critically Acclaimed Feature Film</a><br>

<ul>
<li>See also:<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVmw3ZhdzEs" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it was banned in the USSR</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsof0cwFPY0" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s a German Expressionist Film</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY17_nraW68" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s in Nazi Germany</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2_dhUv_CrI" rel="nofollow">The Simpsons - Worker and Parasite</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/x9ze4c/possible_inspiration_for_worker_and_parasite/" rel="nofollow">Possible inspiration for Worker and Parasite?</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about weaponized AI and seemingly conscious AI!</p>

<ul>
<li>Virtual Customer Panels with <a href="https://gemini.google/overview/gems/" rel="nofollow">Gemini Gems</a><br></li>
<li>Dave vs. <a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/" rel="nofollow">Ticketmaster</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Totally unrelated: <a href="https://theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that-will-put-her-en-1819572981/" rel="nofollow">Cool Dad Raising Daughter On Media That Will Put Her Entirely Out Of Touch With Her Generation</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.trailofbits.com/2025/08/21/weaponizing-image-scaling-against-production-ai-systems/" rel="nofollow">Weaponizing image scaling against production AI systems</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.engadget.com/ai/anthropics-claude-stocked-a-fridge-with-metal-cubes-when-it-was-put-in-charge-of-a-snacks-business-162750304.html" rel="nofollow">Anthropic&#39;s Claude stocked a fridge with metal cubes when it was put in charge of a snacks business</a><br></li>
<li>Seemingly Conscious AI (SCAI)<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://mustafa-suleyman.ai/seemingly-conscious-ai-is-coming" rel="nofollow">We must build AI for people, not to be a person</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/microsofts-ai-chief-says-machine-consciousness-is-an-illusion/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft’s AI Chief Says Machine Consciousness Is an ‘Illusion’</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ohio-lawmaker-proposes-comprehensive-ban-on-marrying-ai-systems-and-granting-legal-personhood/ar-AA1OZhaG" rel="nofollow">Ohio lawmaker proposes comprehensive ban on marrying AI systems and granting legal personhood</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://bogdanthegeek.github.io/blog/projects/vapeserver/" rel="nofollow">Hosting a WebSite on a Disposable Vape</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/how-many-phones-sport-a-5-and-1-4-diskette-drive-this-one/" rel="nofollow">How Many Phones Sport A 5 And 1/4 Diskette Drive? This One.</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hemmings.com/listing/1990-airstream-all-models-478166" rel="nofollow">1990 Airstream NASA 025 Command Vehicle. A Once-in-a-Lifetime Investment Opportunity</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-Oq8iYtVA" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s a Critically Acclaimed Feature Film</a><br>

<ul>
<li>See also:<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVmw3ZhdzEs" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it was banned in the USSR</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsof0cwFPY0" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s a German Expressionist Film</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY17_nraW68" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s in Nazi Germany</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2_dhUv_CrI" rel="nofollow">The Simpsons - Worker and Parasite</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/x9ze4c/possible_inspiration_for_worker_and_parasite/" rel="nofollow">Possible inspiration for Worker and Parasite?</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 261: Not Bad if You Don’t Look Directly at Them</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about raising standards on masks and raising our standards on compiling reliable gazetteers with BS 7666!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>33:56</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about raising standards on masks and raising our standards on compiling reliable gazetteers with BS 7666!
Gunnar explores the neighborhoood with iNaturalist (https://www.inaturalist.org/) and Seek (https://www.inaturalist.org/seek)  
Black-bellied whistling duck (https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Black-bellied_Whistling-Duck/overview)  
Dave saw 7 bands over 7 days  
The Hives (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hives)  
Hate to Say I Told You So (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz1Jwyxd4tE)  
Foo Fighters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fighters)  
Steve Miller Band (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Miller_Band) (80!)  
Journey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_(band))  
Def Leppard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Def_Leppard) (64!)  
Loverboy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loverboy)  
Sammy Hagar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Hagar) (76!)  
Yuengling brewery tour (https://www.yuengling.com/americas-oldest-brewery-pottsville-pa/)  
Qudi Mask 2 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/qudi/qudi-mask-2-self-expression-redefined)  
Watch this (https://youtu.be/9Ivg6k9qmbc)  
Steven Pousty (https://www.linkedin.com/in/thesteve0/), call your office: North Yorkshire Council to phase out apostrophe use on street signs (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-68942321)  
British Standards (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standards) by BSI (British Standards Institution) Group (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSI_Group)  
Updating the national standard on how to compile a reliable gazetteer (https://knowledge.bsigroup.com/articles/updating-the-national-standard-on-how-to-compile-a-reliable-gazetteer)  
PACER and Aaron Swartz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#PACER)  
Related from Xkcd: Exploits of a Mom (https://xkcd.com/327/) with Little Johnny Tables
Cutting Room Floor
* Gunnar Hellekson, call your office: Holy Keyboard Case, Batman! (https://hackaday.com/2024/07/12/holy-keyboard-case-batman/)  
* C Compiler Exists Entirely in Vim (https://hackaday.com/2024/07/07/c-compiler-exists-entirely-in-vim/)
We Give Thanks
* Steven Pousty (https://www.linkedin.com/in/thesteve0/) for inspiring us to channel our inner Steven Pousty!  
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about raising standards on masks and raising our standards on compiling reliable gazetteers with BS 7666!</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar explores the neighborhoood with <a href="https://www.inaturalist.org/" rel="nofollow">iNaturalist</a> and <a href="https://www.inaturalist.org/seek" rel="nofollow">Seek</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Black-bellied_Whistling-Duck/overview" rel="nofollow">Black-bellied whistling duck</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Dave saw 7 bands over 7 days<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hives" rel="nofollow">The Hives</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz1Jwyxd4tE" rel="nofollow">Hate to Say I Told You So</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fighters" rel="nofollow">Foo Fighters</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Miller_Band" rel="nofollow">Steve Miller Band</a> (80!)<br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_(band)" rel="nofollow">Journey</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Def_Leppard" rel="nofollow">Def Leppard</a> (64!)<br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loverboy" rel="nofollow">Loverboy</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Hagar" rel="nofollow">Sammy Hagar</a> (76!)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yuengling.com/americas-oldest-brewery-pottsville-pa/" rel="nofollow">Yuengling brewery tour</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/qudi/qudi-mask-2-self-expression-redefined" rel="nofollow">Qudi Mask 2</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/9Ivg6k9qmbc" rel="nofollow">Watch this</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thesteve0/" rel="nofollow">Steven Pousty</a>, call your office: <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-68942321" rel="nofollow">North Yorkshire Council to phase out apostrophe use on street signs</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standards" rel="nofollow">British Standards</a> by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSI_Group" rel="nofollow">BSI (British Standards Institution) Group</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://knowledge.bsigroup.com/articles/updating-the-national-standard-on-how-to-compile-a-reliable-gazetteer" rel="nofollow">Updating the national standard on how to compile a reliable gazetteer</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#PACER" rel="nofollow">PACER and Aaron Swartz</a><br></li>
<li>Related from Xkcd: <a href="https://xkcd.com/327/" rel="nofollow">Exploits of a Mom</a> with Little Johnny Tables</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar Hellekson, call your office: <a href="https://hackaday.com/2024/07/12/holy-keyboard-case-batman/" rel="nofollow">Holy Keyboard Case, Batman!</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2024/07/07/c-compiler-exists-entirely-in-vim/" rel="nofollow">C Compiler Exists Entirely in Vim</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thesteve0/" rel="nofollow">Steven Pousty</a> for inspiring us to channel our inner Steven Pousty!<br></li>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about raising standards on masks and raising our standards on compiling reliable gazetteers with BS 7666!</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar explores the neighborhoood with <a href="https://www.inaturalist.org/" rel="nofollow">iNaturalist</a> and <a href="https://www.inaturalist.org/seek" rel="nofollow">Seek</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Black-bellied_Whistling-Duck/overview" rel="nofollow">Black-bellied whistling duck</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Dave saw 7 bands over 7 days<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hives" rel="nofollow">The Hives</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz1Jwyxd4tE" rel="nofollow">Hate to Say I Told You So</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fighters" rel="nofollow">Foo Fighters</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Miller_Band" rel="nofollow">Steve Miller Band</a> (80!)<br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_(band)" rel="nofollow">Journey</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Def_Leppard" rel="nofollow">Def Leppard</a> (64!)<br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loverboy" rel="nofollow">Loverboy</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Hagar" rel="nofollow">Sammy Hagar</a> (76!)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yuengling.com/americas-oldest-brewery-pottsville-pa/" rel="nofollow">Yuengling brewery tour</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/qudi/qudi-mask-2-self-expression-redefined" rel="nofollow">Qudi Mask 2</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/9Ivg6k9qmbc" rel="nofollow">Watch this</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thesteve0/" rel="nofollow">Steven Pousty</a>, call your office: <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-68942321" rel="nofollow">North Yorkshire Council to phase out apostrophe use on street signs</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standards" rel="nofollow">British Standards</a> by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSI_Group" rel="nofollow">BSI (British Standards Institution) Group</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://knowledge.bsigroup.com/articles/updating-the-national-standard-on-how-to-compile-a-reliable-gazetteer" rel="nofollow">Updating the national standard on how to compile a reliable gazetteer</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#PACER" rel="nofollow">PACER and Aaron Swartz</a><br></li>
<li>Related from Xkcd: <a href="https://xkcd.com/327/" rel="nofollow">Exploits of a Mom</a> with Little Johnny Tables</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar Hellekson, call your office: <a href="https://hackaday.com/2024/07/12/holy-keyboard-case-batman/" rel="nofollow">Holy Keyboard Case, Batman!</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2024/07/07/c-compiler-exists-entirely-in-vim/" rel="nofollow">C Compiler Exists Entirely in Vim</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thesteve0/" rel="nofollow">Steven Pousty</a> for inspiring us to channel our inner Steven Pousty!<br></li>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 249: Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp; Cheddar Wrap</title>
  <link>https://dgshow.org/249</link>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2023 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/1b67eddd-d80f-444d-ba32-aa9ef36b589d/25515505-7f4a-4212-8b9c-cf8d6f063cfd.mp3" length="14398656" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>29:59</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/1b67eddd-d80f-444d-ba32-aa9ef36b589d/episodes/2/25515505-7f4a-4212-8b9c-cf8d6f063cfd/cover.jpg?v=2"/>
  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!
Dreamforce (https://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/)
Foo Fighters and furry mosh pit (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7108090477257641985/)
Who Are the Salesforce Characters? (https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/)
Caffeine 2, Dave 0
Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites (https://awakechocolate.com/products/peanut-butter-chocolate-bites)
Panera Charged Lemonade (https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/lemonade-chargers.html)
Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons) with AI!
Computer chip with built-in human brain tissue gets military funding (https://newatlas.com/computers/human-brain-chip-ai/)
Supermarket AI meal planner app suggests recipe that would create chlorine gas (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/10/pak-n-save-savey-meal-bot-ai-app-malfunction-recipes)
Related:
Simpsons Trampoline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKqZZynW9E)
Amazon Kitchen Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp;amp; Cheddar Wrap (https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13pqnno/lorem_ipsum_everywhere/)
Tokyo Coffee Shop Introduces Standing Nap Pods (https://themessenger.com/tech/japans-standing-nap-pods-nescafe-harajuku-sleep-girrafenap)
$165 Airplane Face Rest Promises a More Comfortable Flight (https://gizmodo.com/trurest-airplane-pillow-kickstarter-expensive-sleep-for-1850500021)
The Heilmeier Catechism (https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/heilmeier-catechism)
See also:
Crafting Better Proposals Using the Heilmeier Catechism (https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/ordc/Resources/heilmeier-catechism.php)
Catalyzing Innovation in Health &amp;amp; Medicine with Renee Wegrzyn, PhD at Ginkgo Ferment 2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDj_SByQKc)
Cutting Room Floor
* Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Soup Nazi and Elaine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuvaqovm8c)
* Hand Grenade Throwing as a College Sport (https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/hand_grenade_throwing_as_a_college_sport)
* Listen to Werner Herzog Read a Book of AI Poetry (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/style/werner-herzog-ai-poetry.html)
    * Free sample (https://www.facebook.com/littlebrownandcompany/videos/678835610362311/)
    * Also: Werner Herzog reviews Trader Joe’s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YW-5Flkiuw)
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Salesforce, Dreamforce, Foo Fighters, caffeine, Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites, Panera, Panera Bread, Panera Charged Lemonade, Dungeons &amp; Dragons, AI, computer chips, brain cells, supermarkets, recipies, The Simpsons, Amazon Kitchen, Lorem Ipsum, nap pods, TruRest, Heilmeier Catechism, ARPA, ARPA-H, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Soup Nazi, Seinfeld, Elaine, hand grenades, sports, Werner Herzog, Trader Joe's, Yelp</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/" rel="nofollow">Dreamforce</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7108090477257641985/" rel="nofollow">Foo Fighters and furry mosh pit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/" rel="nofollow">Who Are the Salesforce Characters?</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Caffeine 2, Dave 0

<ul>
<li><a href="https://awakechocolate.com/products/peanut-butter-chocolate-bites" rel="nofollow">Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/lemonade-chargers.html" rel="nofollow">Panera Charged Lemonade</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons" rel="nofollow">Dungeons &amp; Dragons</a> with AI!</li>
<li><a href="https://newatlas.com/computers/human-brain-chip-ai/" rel="nofollow">Computer chip with built-in human brain tissue gets military funding</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/10/pak-n-save-savey-meal-bot-ai-app-malfunction-recipes" rel="nofollow">Supermarket AI meal planner app suggests recipe that would create chlorine gas</a>

<ul>
<li>Related:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKqZZynW9E" rel="nofollow">Simpsons Trampoline</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13pqnno/lorem_ipsum_everywhere/" rel="nofollow">Amazon Kitchen Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp; Cheddar Wrap</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://themessenger.com/tech/japans-standing-nap-pods-nescafe-harajuku-sleep-girrafenap" rel="nofollow">Tokyo Coffee Shop Introduces Standing Nap Pods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/trurest-airplane-pillow-kickstarter-expensive-sleep-for-1850500021" rel="nofollow">$165 Airplane Face Rest Promises a More Comfortable Flight</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/heilmeier-catechism" rel="nofollow">The Heilmeier Catechism</a>

<ul>
<li>See also:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/ordc/Resources/heilmeier-catechism.php" rel="nofollow">Crafting Better Proposals Using the Heilmeier Catechism</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDj_SByQKc" rel="nofollow">Catalyzing Innovation in Health &amp; Medicine with Renee Wegrzyn, PhD at Ginkgo Ferment 2023</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuvaqovm8c" rel="nofollow">Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Soup Nazi and Elaine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/hand_grenade_throwing_as_a_college_sport" rel="nofollow">Hand Grenade Throwing as a College Sport</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/style/werner-herzog-ai-poetry.html" rel="nofollow">Listen to Werner Herzog Read a Book of AI Poetry</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/littlebrownandcompany/videos/678835610362311/" rel="nofollow">Free sample</a></li>
<li>Also: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YW-5Flkiuw" rel="nofollow">Werner Herzog reviews Trader Joe’s</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/" rel="nofollow">Dreamforce</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7108090477257641985/" rel="nofollow">Foo Fighters and furry mosh pit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/" rel="nofollow">Who Are the Salesforce Characters?</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Caffeine 2, Dave 0

<ul>
<li><a href="https://awakechocolate.com/products/peanut-butter-chocolate-bites" rel="nofollow">Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/lemonade-chargers.html" rel="nofollow">Panera Charged Lemonade</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons" rel="nofollow">Dungeons &amp; Dragons</a> with AI!</li>
<li><a href="https://newatlas.com/computers/human-brain-chip-ai/" rel="nofollow">Computer chip with built-in human brain tissue gets military funding</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/10/pak-n-save-savey-meal-bot-ai-app-malfunction-recipes" rel="nofollow">Supermarket AI meal planner app suggests recipe that would create chlorine gas</a>

<ul>
<li>Related:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKqZZynW9E" rel="nofollow">Simpsons Trampoline</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13pqnno/lorem_ipsum_everywhere/" rel="nofollow">Amazon Kitchen Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp; Cheddar Wrap</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://themessenger.com/tech/japans-standing-nap-pods-nescafe-harajuku-sleep-girrafenap" rel="nofollow">Tokyo Coffee Shop Introduces Standing Nap Pods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/trurest-airplane-pillow-kickstarter-expensive-sleep-for-1850500021" rel="nofollow">$165 Airplane Face Rest Promises a More Comfortable Flight</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/heilmeier-catechism" rel="nofollow">The Heilmeier Catechism</a>

<ul>
<li>See also:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/ordc/Resources/heilmeier-catechism.php" rel="nofollow">Crafting Better Proposals Using the Heilmeier Catechism</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDj_SByQKc" rel="nofollow">Catalyzing Innovation in Health &amp; Medicine with Renee Wegrzyn, PhD at Ginkgo Ferment 2023</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuvaqovm8c" rel="nofollow">Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Soup Nazi and Elaine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/hand_grenade_throwing_as_a_college_sport" rel="nofollow">Hand Grenade Throwing as a College Sport</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/style/werner-herzog-ai-poetry.html" rel="nofollow">Listen to Werner Herzog Read a Book of AI Poetry</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/littlebrownandcompany/videos/678835610362311/" rel="nofollow">Free sample</a></li>
<li>Also: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YW-5Flkiuw" rel="nofollow">Werner Herzog reviews Trader Joe’s</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 224: Smells Like Sauerkraut</title>
  <link>https://dgshow.org/224</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="false">066877d6-6810-445e-8263-22a76751d94e</guid>
  <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/1b67eddd-d80f-444d-ba32-aa9ef36b589d/066877d6-6810-445e-8263-22a76751d94e.mp3" length="29803250" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about the norms of dream coercion, the norms of encrypted messaging, and the norms of ransomware game theory</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>41:23</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/1b67eddd-d80f-444d-ba32-aa9ef36b589d/episodes/0/066877d6-6810-445e-8263-22a76751d94e/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about the norms of dream coercion, the norms of encrypted messaging, and the norms of ransomware game theory
Bo Burnham’s “Inside” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU)
Foo Fighters at the ICON Music Center (https://iconmusiccenter.com/)
Are advertisers coming for your dreams? (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06/are-advertisers-coming-your-dreams)
Silent Lucidity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw) by Queensryche
Unrelated: Sleep Sensing on Nest Hub (2nd gen) (https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10357288)
Also unrelated: Amazon.com Wants to Monitor You in Your Sleep, for Your Benefit (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-09/amazon-com-wants-to-monitor-you-in-your-sleep-for-your-benefit)
We Got the Phone the FBI Secretly Sold to Criminals (https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7b4gg/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor)
Why everyone should use disappearing messages on WhatsApp and Signal (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-signal-disappearing-messages)
Related XKCD (https://xkcd.com/538/)
Opinion | Could Ransomware Become a Geopolitical Weapon? Game Theory Says Yes. (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/08/ransomware-game-theory-geopolitics-cyber-attack-498625)
Cutting Room Floor
* Smells Like Teen Spirit Cover In Classical Latin (75 BC to 3rd Century AD) Bardcore (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk)
* Frozen’s “Let It Go” Performed in Klingon (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/606709/frozens-let-it-go-in-klingon)
    * “Don’t Stop Believin’” Performed in Klingon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOJoOtk7Scw)
* Subterranean Homesick Blues Performed in a Regional Jet Restroom (https://www.openculture.com/2021/06/the-airline-toilets-theatre-company.html) as performed by the Airline Toilets Theatre Company (and member of the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain (https://www.ukuleleorchestra.com/))
* ”Take on Me” Performed by Face Smacking (https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/o137d0/oc_i_discovered_that_i_can_play_a_melody_by/)
* Sublime Text (https://what-i-got.glitch.me/) to get What I Got
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Bo Burnham, Inside, Foo Fighters, ICON Music Center, advertising, lucid dreams, lucid dreaming, Silent Lucidity, Queensryche, Nest Hub, Amazon, Alexa, FBI, criminals, Anom, Android, WhatsApp, Signal, ephemeral messaging, XKCD, ransomware, geopolitics, Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit, Latin, Frozen, Let It Go, Journey, Don't Stop Believin', Klingon, Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues, regional jet restrooms, a-ha, Take on Me, face smacking, Sublime, What I got</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about the norms of dream coercion, the norms of encrypted messaging, and the norms of ransomware game theory</p>

<ul>
<li>Bo Burnham’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU" rel="nofollow">“Inside”</a></li>
<li>Foo Fighters at the <a href="https://iconmusiccenter.com/" rel="nofollow">ICON Music Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06/are-advertisers-coming-your-dreams" rel="nofollow">Are advertisers coming for your dreams?</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw" rel="nofollow">Silent Lucidity</a> by Queensryche</li>
<li>Unrelated: <a href="https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10357288" rel="nofollow">Sleep Sensing on Nest Hub (2nd gen)</a></li>
<li>Also unrelated: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-09/amazon-com-wants-to-monitor-you-in-your-sleep-for-your-benefit" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com Wants to Monitor You in Your Sleep, for Your Benefit</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7b4gg/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor" rel="nofollow">We Got the Phone the FBI Secretly Sold to Criminals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-signal-disappearing-messages" rel="nofollow">Why everyone should use disappearing messages on WhatsApp and Signal</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://xkcd.com/538/" rel="nofollow">Related XKCD</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/08/ransomware-game-theory-geopolitics-cyber-attack-498625" rel="nofollow">Opinion | Could Ransomware Become a Geopolitical Weapon? Game Theory Says Yes.</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk" rel="nofollow">Smells Like Teen Spirit Cover In Classical Latin (75 BC to 3rd Century AD) Bardcore</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/606709/frozens-let-it-go-in-klingon" rel="nofollow">Frozen’s “Let It Go” Performed in Klingon</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOJoOtk7Scw" rel="nofollow">“Don’t Stop Believin’” Performed in Klingon</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2021/06/the-airline-toilets-theatre-company.html" rel="nofollow">Subterranean Homesick Blues Performed in a Regional Jet Restroom</a> as performed by the Airline Toilets Theatre Company (and member of <a href="https://www.ukuleleorchestra.com/" rel="nofollow">the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/o137d0/oc_i_discovered_that_i_can_play_a_melody_by/" rel="nofollow">”Take on Me” Performed by Face Smacking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://what-i-got.glitch.me/" rel="nofollow">Sublime Text</a> to get What I Got</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about the norms of dream coercion, the norms of encrypted messaging, and the norms of ransomware game theory</p>

<ul>
<li>Bo Burnham’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU" rel="nofollow">“Inside”</a></li>
<li>Foo Fighters at the <a href="https://iconmusiccenter.com/" rel="nofollow">ICON Music Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06/are-advertisers-coming-your-dreams" rel="nofollow">Are advertisers coming for your dreams?</a>

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<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw" rel="nofollow">Silent Lucidity</a> by Queensryche</li>
<li>Unrelated: <a href="https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10357288" rel="nofollow">Sleep Sensing on Nest Hub (2nd gen)</a></li>
<li>Also unrelated: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-09/amazon-com-wants-to-monitor-you-in-your-sleep-for-your-benefit" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com Wants to Monitor You in Your Sleep, for Your Benefit</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7b4gg/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor" rel="nofollow">We Got the Phone the FBI Secretly Sold to Criminals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-signal-disappearing-messages" rel="nofollow">Why everyone should use disappearing messages on WhatsApp and Signal</a>

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<li><a href="https://xkcd.com/538/" rel="nofollow">Related XKCD</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/08/ransomware-game-theory-geopolitics-cyber-attack-498625" rel="nofollow">Opinion | Could Ransomware Become a Geopolitical Weapon? Game Theory Says Yes.</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

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<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk" rel="nofollow">Smells Like Teen Spirit Cover In Classical Latin (75 BC to 3rd Century AD) Bardcore</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/606709/frozens-let-it-go-in-klingon" rel="nofollow">Frozen’s “Let It Go” Performed in Klingon</a>

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<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOJoOtk7Scw" rel="nofollow">“Don’t Stop Believin’” Performed in Klingon</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2021/06/the-airline-toilets-theatre-company.html" rel="nofollow">Subterranean Homesick Blues Performed in a Regional Jet Restroom</a> as performed by the Airline Toilets Theatre Company (and member of <a href="https://www.ukuleleorchestra.com/" rel="nofollow">the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/o137d0/oc_i_discovered_that_i_can_play_a_melody_by/" rel="nofollow">”Take on Me” Performed by Face Smacking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://what-i-got.glitch.me/" rel="nofollow">Sublime Text</a> to get What I Got</li>
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<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

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<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
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