Episode 276: I Think I Had That Shirt

David Egts & Gunnar Hellekson — Sat, 01 Nov 2025 11:00:00 -0500

For our Halloween finale, Carolyn Ford invites two favorite “AI conjurers”, Dave Egts “Mr. X,” public-sector field CTO at Mulesoft, and Laura Klebanow, founder & chief storyteller at Show & Tell, into the Tech Transforms cauldron. Each brings a “secret AI ingredient”: Carolyn composes whimsical Suno-generated theme music (after a prompt-crafting detour through ChatGPT), Laura pushes image creation and Gemini’s career-planner for playful, practical use, and Dave reimagines Gemini’s children’s-storybook gem to craft customer-hero narratives, plus a Scooby-Doo-style Tech Transforms tale.

Then we stir in the shadows: misinformation at scale, AI “rights,” bioethics (organoids/bodyoids), job disruption vs. reskilling, and how creativity can demystify AI without sugarcoating risks. The trio closes with rapid-fire “treats & tricks,” classroom-to-boardroom starter tips (talk with AI, don’t just query it; red-team your ideas), and a reminder to “find your beautiful” use the tools to clear the junk so humans can do what only humans do.

Brewed takeaways:

Prompt craft matters; collaborate across tools (Suno, Gemini, ChatGPT).
Creative play ≠ fluff: it’s a safe on-ramp to literacy and adoption.
AI will change jobs; map “jobs to be done,” automate the rote, upskill the rest.
Ethics aren’t optional: teach harm awareness early (mis/dis/malinformation, bullying).
Start small today: keep a running dialogue with AI and build a personal “advisory board” of model personas.

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We Give Thanks

Thanks to Carolyn and Laura for having Dave on the Tech Transforms Podcast!

Special Guests: Carolyn Ford and Laura Klebanow.

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Episode 276: I Think I Had That Shirt