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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Hand Grenades”</title>
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  <title>Episode 249: Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp; Cheddar Wrap</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dreamforce&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7108090477257641985/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Foo Fighters and furry mosh pit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Who Are the Salesforce Characters?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Caffeine 2, Dave 0

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://awakechocolate.com/products/peanut-butter-chocolate-bites" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/lemonade-chargers.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Panera Charged Lemonade&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons&lt;/a&gt; with AI!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://newatlas.com/computers/human-brain-chip-ai/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Computer chip with built-in human brain tissue gets military funding&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/10/pak-n-save-savey-meal-bot-ai-app-malfunction-recipes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Supermarket AI meal planner app suggests recipe that would create chlorine gas&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Related:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKqZZynW9E" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Simpsons Trampoline&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13pqnno/lorem_ipsum_everywhere/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Amazon Kitchen Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp;amp; Cheddar Wrap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://themessenger.com/tech/japans-standing-nap-pods-nescafe-harajuku-sleep-girrafenap" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Tokyo Coffee Shop Introduces Standing Nap Pods&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://gizmodo.com/trurest-airplane-pillow-kickstarter-expensive-sleep-for-1850500021" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;$165 Airplane Face Rest Promises a More Comfortable Flight&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/heilmeier-catechism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Heilmeier Catechism&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;See also:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/ordc/Resources/heilmeier-catechism.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Crafting Better Proposals Using the Heilmeier Catechism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDj_SByQKc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Catalyzing Innovation in Health &amp;amp; Medicine with Renee Wegrzyn, PhD at Ginkgo Ferment 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuvaqovm8c" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Soup Nazi and Elaine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/hand_grenade_throwing_as_a_college_sport" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Hand Grenade Throwing as a College Sport&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/style/werner-herzog-ai-poetry.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Listen to Werner Herzog Read a Book of AI Poetry&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/littlebrownandcompany/videos/678835610362311/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Free sample&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Also: &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YW-5Flkiuw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Werner Herzog reviews Trader Joe’s&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>Salesforce, Dreamforce, Foo Fighters, caffeine, Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites, Panera, Panera Bread, Panera Charged Lemonade, Dungeons &amp; Dragons, AI, computer chips, brain cells, supermarkets, recipies, The Simpsons, Amazon Kitchen, Lorem Ipsum, nap pods, TruRest, Heilmeier Catechism, ARPA, ARPA-H, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Soup Nazi, Seinfeld, Elaine, hand grenades, sports, Werner Herzog, Trader Joe's, Yelp</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/" rel="nofollow">Dreamforce</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7108090477257641985/" rel="nofollow">Foo Fighters and furry mosh pit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/" rel="nofollow">Who Are the Salesforce Characters?</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Caffeine 2, Dave 0

<ul>
<li><a href="https://awakechocolate.com/products/peanut-butter-chocolate-bites" rel="nofollow">Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/lemonade-chargers.html" rel="nofollow">Panera Charged Lemonade</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons" rel="nofollow">Dungeons &amp; Dragons</a> with AI!</li>
<li><a href="https://newatlas.com/computers/human-brain-chip-ai/" rel="nofollow">Computer chip with built-in human brain tissue gets military funding</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/10/pak-n-save-savey-meal-bot-ai-app-malfunction-recipes" rel="nofollow">Supermarket AI meal planner app suggests recipe that would create chlorine gas</a>

<ul>
<li>Related:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKqZZynW9E" rel="nofollow">Simpsons Trampoline</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13pqnno/lorem_ipsum_everywhere/" rel="nofollow">Amazon Kitchen Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp; Cheddar Wrap</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://themessenger.com/tech/japans-standing-nap-pods-nescafe-harajuku-sleep-girrafenap" rel="nofollow">Tokyo Coffee Shop Introduces Standing Nap Pods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/trurest-airplane-pillow-kickstarter-expensive-sleep-for-1850500021" rel="nofollow">$165 Airplane Face Rest Promises a More Comfortable Flight</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/heilmeier-catechism" rel="nofollow">The Heilmeier Catechism</a>

<ul>
<li>See also:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/ordc/Resources/heilmeier-catechism.php" rel="nofollow">Crafting Better Proposals Using the Heilmeier Catechism</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDj_SByQKc" rel="nofollow">Catalyzing Innovation in Health &amp; Medicine with Renee Wegrzyn, PhD at Ginkgo Ferment 2023</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuvaqovm8c" rel="nofollow">Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Soup Nazi and Elaine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/hand_grenade_throwing_as_a_college_sport" rel="nofollow">Hand Grenade Throwing as a College Sport</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/style/werner-herzog-ai-poetry.html" rel="nofollow">Listen to Werner Herzog Read a Book of AI Poetry</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/littlebrownandcompany/videos/678835610362311/" rel="nofollow">Free sample</a></li>
<li>Also: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YW-5Flkiuw" rel="nofollow">Werner Herzog reviews Trader Joe’s</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about Dave with caffeine, Dungeons and Dragons with AI, computer chips with brain cells, sleeping with discomfort, and the Heilmeier Catechism!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/" rel="nofollow">Dreamforce</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7108090477257641985/" rel="nofollow">Foo Fighters and furry mosh pit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/" rel="nofollow">Who Are the Salesforce Characters?</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Caffeine 2, Dave 0

<ul>
<li><a href="https://awakechocolate.com/products/peanut-butter-chocolate-bites" rel="nofollow">Awake Peanut Butter Chocolate Bites</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/lemonade-chargers.html" rel="nofollow">Panera Charged Lemonade</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons" rel="nofollow">Dungeons &amp; Dragons</a> with AI!</li>
<li><a href="https://newatlas.com/computers/human-brain-chip-ai/" rel="nofollow">Computer chip with built-in human brain tissue gets military funding</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/10/pak-n-save-savey-meal-bot-ai-app-malfunction-recipes" rel="nofollow">Supermarket AI meal planner app suggests recipe that would create chlorine gas</a>

<ul>
<li>Related:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKqZZynW9E" rel="nofollow">Simpsons Trampoline</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13pqnno/lorem_ipsum_everywhere/" rel="nofollow">Amazon Kitchen Lorem Ipsum Dolor &amp; Cheddar Wrap</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://themessenger.com/tech/japans-standing-nap-pods-nescafe-harajuku-sleep-girrafenap" rel="nofollow">Tokyo Coffee Shop Introduces Standing Nap Pods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/trurest-airplane-pillow-kickstarter-expensive-sleep-for-1850500021" rel="nofollow">$165 Airplane Face Rest Promises a More Comfortable Flight</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/heilmeier-catechism" rel="nofollow">The Heilmeier Catechism</a>

<ul>
<li>See also:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/ordc/Resources/heilmeier-catechism.php" rel="nofollow">Crafting Better Proposals Using the Heilmeier Catechism</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDj_SByQKc" rel="nofollow">Catalyzing Innovation in Health &amp; Medicine with Renee Wegrzyn, PhD at Ginkgo Ferment 2023</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuvaqovm8c" rel="nofollow">Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Soup Nazi and Elaine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/hand_grenade_throwing_as_a_college_sport" rel="nofollow">Hand Grenade Throwing as a College Sport</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/style/werner-herzog-ai-poetry.html" rel="nofollow">Listen to Werner Herzog Read a Book of AI Poetry</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/littlebrownandcompany/videos/678835610362311/" rel="nofollow">Free sample</a></li>
<li>Also: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YW-5Flkiuw" rel="nofollow">Werner Herzog reviews Trader Joe’s</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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