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    <description>David Egts and Gunnar Hellekson discuss privacy, security, robots, and internet ephemera.
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  <title>Episode 275: I'll Visit You in Jail</title>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about hidden signals in AI models and hidden signals in birds!
Agentic Google App Scripts (https://github.com/ghelleks/email-labeler-agent)  
Fake Music (https://www.youtube.com/@FakemusicBr)!  
Iron Man ( Soul/Funk) Version 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPocWcaCMA4)  
Don't You (Forget About Me) ( Soul) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-5xm2VsB8)
See also: The Klezmonauts -- Oy to the World: A Klezmer Christmas (https://www.allmusic.com/album/oy-to-the-world-a-klezmer-christmas-mw0000617319)
Subliminal Learning: Language Models Transmit Behavioral Traits via Hidden Signals in Data (https://alignment.anthropic.com/2025/subliminal-learning/)  
China foes get worse results using DeepSeek, research suggests — CrowdStrike finds nearly twice as many flaws in AI-generated code for IS, Falun Gong, Tibet, and Taiwan (https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/china-foes-get-worse-results-using-deepseek-research-suggests-crowdstrike-finds-nearly-twice-as-many-flaws-in-ai-generated-code-for-is-falun-gong-tibet-and-taiwan)  
AVIF: The Avian Image Format (https://hackaday.com/2025/07/29/avif-the-avian-image-format/)
Cutting Room Floor
* I made headphones with integrated CD player, remote control, battery, disc storage, and jewel box compartment (https://www.reddit.com/r/DiWHY/comments/1mlrl4q/i_made_headphones_with_integrated_cd_player/)  
* Building a DOOM-like multiplayer shooter in pure SQL (https://cedardb.com/blog/doomql/)  
* Phishy URL (https://phishyurl.com/): Are your links not malicious looking enough?  
  * See also: https://pc-helper.xyz/adware-bot/ransomware_launcher_tool.exe?attachment=overwrite&amp;amp;firewall=exploit&amp;amp;id=c280 (https://pc-helper.xyz/adware-bot/ransomware_launcher_tool.exe?attachment=overwrite&amp;amp;firewall=exploit&amp;amp;id=c280)  
* URL Lengthener (https://www.namitjain.com/tools/url-lengthener)  
  * See also: https://www.namitjain.com/tools/url-lengthener/r/🔥/the/😵‍💫/going/mega?data=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZkZ3Nob3cub3JnJTJG (https://www.namitjain.com/tools/url-lengthener/r/🔥/the/😵‍💫/going/mega?data=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZkZ3Nob3cub3JnJTJG) 
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  <itunes:keywords>Agentic AI, email, Gemini, Fake Music, AI-generated music, music, Iron Man, Don't You (Forget About Me), The Klezmonauts, CD players, Doom, SQL, phishing, URL lengtheners, subliminal learning, AI models, distillation, owls, DeepSeek, AI code generation, AVIF, avian image format, birds, ultrasonics, birdsongs, image generation, steganography, the Klezmonauts</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about hidden signals in AI models and hidden signals in birds!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/ghelleks/email-labeler-agent" rel="nofollow">Agentic Google App Scripts</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@FakemusicBr" rel="nofollow">Fake Music</a>!<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPocWcaCMA4" rel="nofollow">Iron Man ( Soul/Funk) Version 2</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-5xm2VsB8" rel="nofollow">Don&#39;t You (Forget About Me) ( Soul)</a></li>
<li>See also: <a href="https://www.allmusic.com/album/oy-to-the-world-a-klezmer-christmas-mw0000617319" rel="nofollow">The Klezmonauts -- Oy to the World: A Klezmer Christmas</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Subliminal Learning: <a href="https://alignment.anthropic.com/2025/subliminal-learning/" rel="nofollow">Language Models Transmit Behavioral Traits via Hidden Signals in Data</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/china-foes-get-worse-results-using-deepseek-research-suggests-crowdstrike-finds-nearly-twice-as-many-flaws-in-ai-generated-code-for-is-falun-gong-tibet-and-taiwan" rel="nofollow">China foes get worse results using DeepSeek, research suggests — CrowdStrike finds nearly twice as many flaws in AI-generated code for IS, Falun Gong, Tibet, and Taiwan</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/07/29/avif-the-avian-image-format/" rel="nofollow">AVIF: The Avian Image Format</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/DiWHY/comments/1mlrl4q/i_made_headphones_with_integrated_cd_player/" rel="nofollow">I made headphones with integrated CD player, remote control, battery, disc storage, and jewel box compartment</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://cedardb.com/blog/doomql/" rel="nofollow">Building a DOOM-like multiplayer shooter in pure SQL</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://phishyurl.com/" rel="nofollow">Phishy URL</a>: Are your links not malicious looking enough?<br>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://pc-helper.xyz/adware-bot/ransomware_launcher_tool.exe?attachment=overwrite&firewall=exploit&id=c280" rel="nofollow">https://pc-helper.xyz/adware-bot/ransomware_launcher_tool.exe?attachment=overwrite&amp;firewall=exploit&amp;id=c280</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.namitjain.com/tools/url-lengthener" rel="nofollow">URL Lengthener</a><br>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://www.namitjain.com/tools/url-lengthener/r/%F0%9F%94%A5/the/%F0%9F%98%B5%E2%80%8D%F0%9F%92%AB/going/mega?data=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZkZ3Nob3cub3JnJTJG" rel="nofollow">https://www.namitjain.com/tools/url-lengthener/r/🔥/the/😵‍💫/going/mega?data=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZkZ3Nob3cub3JnJTJG</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about hidden signals in AI models and hidden signals in birds!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/ghelleks/email-labeler-agent" rel="nofollow">Agentic Google App Scripts</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@FakemusicBr" rel="nofollow">Fake Music</a>!<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPocWcaCMA4" rel="nofollow">Iron Man ( Soul/Funk) Version 2</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-5xm2VsB8" rel="nofollow">Don&#39;t You (Forget About Me) ( Soul)</a></li>
<li>See also: <a href="https://www.allmusic.com/album/oy-to-the-world-a-klezmer-christmas-mw0000617319" rel="nofollow">The Klezmonauts -- Oy to the World: A Klezmer Christmas</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Subliminal Learning: <a href="https://alignment.anthropic.com/2025/subliminal-learning/" rel="nofollow">Language Models Transmit Behavioral Traits via Hidden Signals in Data</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/china-foes-get-worse-results-using-deepseek-research-suggests-crowdstrike-finds-nearly-twice-as-many-flaws-in-ai-generated-code-for-is-falun-gong-tibet-and-taiwan" rel="nofollow">China foes get worse results using DeepSeek, research suggests — CrowdStrike finds nearly twice as many flaws in AI-generated code for IS, Falun Gong, Tibet, and Taiwan</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/07/29/avif-the-avian-image-format/" rel="nofollow">AVIF: The Avian Image Format</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/DiWHY/comments/1mlrl4q/i_made_headphones_with_integrated_cd_player/" rel="nofollow">I made headphones with integrated CD player, remote control, battery, disc storage, and jewel box compartment</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://cedardb.com/blog/doomql/" rel="nofollow">Building a DOOM-like multiplayer shooter in pure SQL</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://phishyurl.com/" rel="nofollow">Phishy URL</a>: Are your links not malicious looking enough?<br>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://pc-helper.xyz/adware-bot/ransomware_launcher_tool.exe?attachment=overwrite&firewall=exploit&id=c280" rel="nofollow">https://pc-helper.xyz/adware-bot/ransomware_launcher_tool.exe?attachment=overwrite&amp;firewall=exploit&amp;id=c280</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.namitjain.com/tools/url-lengthener" rel="nofollow">URL Lengthener</a><br>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://www.namitjain.com/tools/url-lengthener/r/%F0%9F%94%A5/the/%F0%9F%98%B5%E2%80%8D%F0%9F%92%AB/going/mega?data=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZkZ3Nob3cub3JnJTJG" rel="nofollow">https://www.namitjain.com/tools/url-lengthener/r/🔥/the/😵‍💫/going/mega?data=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZkZ3Nob3cub3JnJTJG</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 241: Apple-Inspired Feedbag</title>
  <link>https://dgshow.org/241</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2022 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/1b67eddd-d80f-444d-ba32-aa9ef36b589d/eaa8292d-042f-4453-ba85-af1c5442c23a.mp3" length="12522862" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about Apple-inspired VR devices, keyboards, and Tobasco sauce!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>25:51</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/1b67eddd-d80f-444d-ba32-aa9ef36b589d/episodes/e/eaa8292d-042f-4453-ba85-af1c5442c23a/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about Apple-inspired VR devices, keyboards, and Tobasco sauce!
Karate!
In the metaverse, no one can hear you scream: Bizarre Muzzle Microphone Keeps Your Mouth in the Metaverse (https://gizmodo.com/muzzle-microphone-headset-mutalk-noise-isolating-ar-vr-1849511121)
Sold out: Cargo swim briefs (https://www.dollarshaveclub.com/lp/cargoswim)
This Website Can Figure Out What You're Typing Just By Listening to Your Loud Mechanical Keyboard (https://gizmodo.com/website-can-track-mechanical-keyboard-typing-just-by-li-1848890545)
Kinesis Advantage360 (https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/)
Type on Any Surface with the TypeAnywhere Fingers-Only Keyboard (https://www.hackster.io/news/type-on-any-surface-with-the-typeanywhere-fingers-only-keyboard-15e85cb64218)
Related: Free Drum (https://freedrum.rocks/)
How did a bottle of Tabasco sauce find its way into a painting of the Last Supper? (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/05/31/tabasco-hot-sauce-bottle-last-supper-painting/7454703001/)
Cutting Room Floor
* What does DALL-E2 generate when I ask it for the most popular Halloween candy of each US state? (https://www.aiweirdness.com/bonus-halloween-candy-by-state/)
* CLIP Interrogator (https://huggingface.co/spaces/pharma/CLIP-Interrogator): Want to figure out what a good prompt might be to create new images like an existing one? The CLIP Interrogator is here to get you answers!
* Clocking In at the Virtual Reality Kmart (https://www.wired.com/story/vrchat-kmart-employees-store/)
* Kmart 1973 Reel to Reel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln_88HHXJ04)
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about Apple-inspired VR devices, keyboards, and Tobasco sauce!</p>

<ul>
<li>Karate!</li>
<li>In the metaverse, no one can hear you scream: <a href="https://gizmodo.com/muzzle-microphone-headset-mutalk-noise-isolating-ar-vr-1849511121" rel="nofollow">Bizarre Muzzle Microphone Keeps Your Mouth in the Metaverse</a></li>
<li>Sold out: <a href="https://www.dollarshaveclub.com/lp/cargoswim" rel="nofollow">Cargo swim briefs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/website-can-track-mechanical-keyboard-typing-just-by-li-1848890545" rel="nofollow">This Website Can Figure Out What You&#39;re Typing Just By Listening to Your Loud Mechanical Keyboard</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/" rel="nofollow">Kinesis Advantage360</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/type-on-any-surface-with-the-typeanywhere-fingers-only-keyboard-15e85cb64218" rel="nofollow">Type on Any Surface with the TypeAnywhere Fingers-Only Keyboard</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://freedrum.rocks/" rel="nofollow">Free Drum</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/05/31/tabasco-hot-sauce-bottle-last-supper-painting/7454703001/" rel="nofollow">How did a bottle of Tabasco sauce find its way into a painting of the Last Supper?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.aiweirdness.com/bonus-halloween-candy-by-state/" rel="nofollow">What does DALL-E2 generate when I ask it for the most popular Halloween candy of each US state?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://huggingface.co/spaces/pharma/CLIP-Interrogator" rel="nofollow">CLIP Interrogator</a>: Want to figure out what a good prompt might be to create new images like an existing one? The CLIP Interrogator is here to get you answers!</li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/vrchat-kmart-employees-store/" rel="nofollow">Clocking In at the Virtual Reality Kmart</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln_88HHXJ04" rel="nofollow">Kmart 1973 Reel to Reel</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about Apple-inspired VR devices, keyboards, and Tobasco sauce!</p>

<ul>
<li>Karate!</li>
<li>In the metaverse, no one can hear you scream: <a href="https://gizmodo.com/muzzle-microphone-headset-mutalk-noise-isolating-ar-vr-1849511121" rel="nofollow">Bizarre Muzzle Microphone Keeps Your Mouth in the Metaverse</a></li>
<li>Sold out: <a href="https://www.dollarshaveclub.com/lp/cargoswim" rel="nofollow">Cargo swim briefs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/website-can-track-mechanical-keyboard-typing-just-by-li-1848890545" rel="nofollow">This Website Can Figure Out What You&#39;re Typing Just By Listening to Your Loud Mechanical Keyboard</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/" rel="nofollow">Kinesis Advantage360</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/type-on-any-surface-with-the-typeanywhere-fingers-only-keyboard-15e85cb64218" rel="nofollow">Type on Any Surface with the TypeAnywhere Fingers-Only Keyboard</a>

<ul>
<li>Related: <a href="https://freedrum.rocks/" rel="nofollow">Free Drum</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/05/31/tabasco-hot-sauce-bottle-last-supper-painting/7454703001/" rel="nofollow">How did a bottle of Tabasco sauce find its way into a painting of the Last Supper?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.aiweirdness.com/bonus-halloween-candy-by-state/" rel="nofollow">What does DALL-E2 generate when I ask it for the most popular Halloween candy of each US state?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://huggingface.co/spaces/pharma/CLIP-Interrogator" rel="nofollow">CLIP Interrogator</a>: Want to figure out what a good prompt might be to create new images like an existing one? The CLIP Interrogator is here to get you answers!</li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/vrchat-kmart-employees-store/" rel="nofollow">Clocking In at the Virtual Reality Kmart</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln_88HHXJ04" rel="nofollow">Kmart 1973 Reel to Reel</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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