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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Llms”</title>
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    <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2025 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
    <description>David Egts and Gunnar Hellekson discuss privacy, security, robots, and internet ephemera.
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  <title>Episode 274: We've Always Enjoyed Arby's</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about smart glasses and AI existential dread!</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about smart glasses and AI existential dread!
Follow Up
Duperheroes (https://github.com/ghelleks/duperheroes)!  
I Previewed These Emotion-Tracking Smart Glasses, and They Seem Weirdly Useful (https://lifehacker.com/tech/emotion-tracking-smart-glasses)  
Someone Built an Ad Blocker for Real Life, and I Can't Wait to Try It (https://lifehacker.com/tech/someone-built-an-ad-blocker-for-real-life-and-i-cant-wait-to-try-it)  
'Positive review only': Researchers hide AI prompts in papers (https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Artificial-intelligence/Positive-review-only-Researchers-hide-AI-prompts-in-papers)  
Someone trapped an LLM on inferior hardware and infused it with existential dread for the sake of art, and it's terrifying (https://www.xda-developers.com/llm-raspberry-pi-art-piece/)  
Guggenheim: Can’t Help Myself (https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/34812)
Cutting Room Floor
Photographs From Amundsen’s South Pole Expedition – 1910-1912 (https://flashbak.com/photographs-from-amundsens-south-pole-expedition-1910-1912-475840/)  
The Museum of Soviet Arcade Games (https://arcadeblogger.com/2019/06/15/the-museum-of-soviet-arcade-games/) features The Giant Turnip, based on an old Russian folklore tale (https://www.russianamericancompany.com/the-giant-turnip/). Players are scored on how far they can pull the lever out of the machine. 
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  <itunes:keywords>South Pole explorers, Soviet arcade games, Giant Turnip, smart glasses, emotion tracking, e-tattoos, ad blockers, generative AI, research papers, publications, conferences, revisionist history, Latent Reflection, Raspberry Pis, Llama, LLMs, existential dread, Guggenheim, Can't Help Myself</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about smart glasses and AI existential dread!</p>

<p><strong>Follow Up</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/ghelleks/duperheroes" rel="nofollow">Duperheroes</a><strong>!</strong><br></li>
<li><a href="https://lifehacker.com/tech/emotion-tracking-smart-glasses" rel="nofollow">I Previewed These Emotion-Tracking Smart Glasses, and They Seem Weirdly Useful</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://lifehacker.com/tech/someone-built-an-ad-blocker-for-real-life-and-i-cant-wait-to-try-it" rel="nofollow">Someone Built an Ad Blocker for Real Life, and I Can&#39;t Wait to Try It</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Artificial-intelligence/Positive-review-only-Researchers-hide-AI-prompts-in-papers" rel="nofollow">&#39;Positive review only&#39;: Researchers hide AI prompts in papers</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.xda-developers.com/llm-raspberry-pi-art-piece/" rel="nofollow">Someone trapped an LLM on inferior hardware and infused it with existential dread for the sake of art, and it&#39;s terrifying</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Guggenheim: <a href="https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/34812" rel="nofollow">Can’t Help Myself</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://flashbak.com/photographs-from-amundsens-south-pole-expedition-1910-1912-475840/" rel="nofollow">Photographs From Amundsen’s South Pole Expedition – 1910-1912</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://arcadeblogger.com/2019/06/15/the-museum-of-soviet-arcade-games/" rel="nofollow">The Museum of Soviet Arcade Games</a> features The Giant Turnip, based on <a href="https://www.russianamericancompany.com/the-giant-turnip/" rel="nofollow">an old Russian folklore tale</a>. Players are scored on how far they can pull the lever out of the machine.</li>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about smart glasses and AI existential dread!</p>

<p><strong>Follow Up</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/ghelleks/duperheroes" rel="nofollow">Duperheroes</a><strong>!</strong><br></li>
<li><a href="https://lifehacker.com/tech/emotion-tracking-smart-glasses" rel="nofollow">I Previewed These Emotion-Tracking Smart Glasses, and They Seem Weirdly Useful</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://lifehacker.com/tech/someone-built-an-ad-blocker-for-real-life-and-i-cant-wait-to-try-it" rel="nofollow">Someone Built an Ad Blocker for Real Life, and I Can&#39;t Wait to Try It</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Artificial-intelligence/Positive-review-only-Researchers-hide-AI-prompts-in-papers" rel="nofollow">&#39;Positive review only&#39;: Researchers hide AI prompts in papers</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.xda-developers.com/llm-raspberry-pi-art-piece/" rel="nofollow">Someone trapped an LLM on inferior hardware and infused it with existential dread for the sake of art, and it&#39;s terrifying</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Guggenheim: <a href="https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/34812" rel="nofollow">Can’t Help Myself</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://flashbak.com/photographs-from-amundsens-south-pole-expedition-1910-1912-475840/" rel="nofollow">Photographs From Amundsen’s South Pole Expedition – 1910-1912</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://arcadeblogger.com/2019/06/15/the-museum-of-soviet-arcade-games/" rel="nofollow">The Museum of Soviet Arcade Games</a> features The Giant Turnip, based on <a href="https://www.russianamericancompany.com/the-giant-turnip/" rel="nofollow">an old Russian folklore tale</a>. Players are scored on how far they can pull the lever out of the machine.</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 271: Blade Runner Pepsi Challenge</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2025 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>27:00</itunes:duration>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!
Moen’s lifetime warranty (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDiq3RalSQ)  
Gemini (https://gemini.google.com/) multimodal!
When We Cease to Understand the World (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62069739-when-we-cease-to-understand-the-world) by Benjamín Labatut  
Einstein’s Dreams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein's_Dreams) by Alan Lightman  
Chatbots, Like the Rest of Us, Just Want to Be Loved (https://www.wired.com/story/chatbots-like-the-rest-of-us-just-want-to-be-loved/)  
D&amp;amp;G Blade Runner Home Edition: Human or Not? (https://www.humanornot.ai/)  
How nice that state-of-the-art LLMs reveal their reasoning ... for miscreants to exploit (https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/25/chain_of_thought_jailbreaking)  
Emergent Misalignment: Researchers trained AI models to write flawed code—and they began supporting the Nazis and advocating for AI to enslave humans (https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-trained-ai-models-write-093745140.html)
Cutting Room Floor
Stunting with Reinforcement Learning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWR25xGF74)  
There’s a Vape With a Tamagotchi Inside It That Dies If You Stop Puffing (https://futurism.com/vape-tamagotchi)  
A Two-Player Arcade Machine in a Briefcase (https://www.hackster.io/news/a-two-player-arcade-machine-in-a-briefcase-af6ce069779a) 
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  <itunes:keywords>Moen, Gemini, multimodal AI, enslaving humanity, personality tests, Voight-Kampff tests, chatbots, LLMs, Human or Not, chain of thought, CoT, Malicious-Educator,  Hijacking Chain of Thought, H-CoT, emergent misalignment, BMX robots, vaping, Tamagotchi, arcade machines, briefcases</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!</p>

<ul>
<li>Moen’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDiq3RalSQ" rel="nofollow">lifetime warranty</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="nofollow">Gemini</a> multimodal!</li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62069739-when-we-cease-to-understand-the-world" rel="nofollow"><em>When We Cease to Understand the World</em></a> by Benjamín Labatut<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein&#x27;s_Dreams" rel="nofollow"><em>Einstein’s Dreams</em></a> by Alan Lightman<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/chatbots-like-the-rest-of-us-just-want-to-be-loved/" rel="nofollow">Chatbots, Like the Rest of Us, Just Want to Be Loved</a><br></li>
<li>D&amp;G Blade Runner Home Edition: <a href="https://www.humanornot.ai/" rel="nofollow">Human or Not?</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/25/chain_of_thought_jailbreaking" rel="nofollow">How nice that state-of-the-art LLMs reveal their reasoning ... for miscreants to exploit</a><br></li>
<li>Emergent Misalignment: <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-trained-ai-models-write-093745140.html" rel="nofollow">Researchers trained AI models to write flawed code—and they began supporting the Nazis and advocating for AI to enslave humans</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWR25xGF74" rel="nofollow">Stunting with Reinforcement Learning</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://futurism.com/vape-tamagotchi" rel="nofollow">There’s a Vape With a Tamagotchi Inside It That Dies If You Stop Puffing</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/a-two-player-arcade-machine-in-a-briefcase-af6ce069779a" rel="nofollow">A Two-Player Arcade Machine in a Briefcase</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!</p>

<ul>
<li>Moen’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDiq3RalSQ" rel="nofollow">lifetime warranty</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="nofollow">Gemini</a> multimodal!</li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62069739-when-we-cease-to-understand-the-world" rel="nofollow"><em>When We Cease to Understand the World</em></a> by Benjamín Labatut<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein&#x27;s_Dreams" rel="nofollow"><em>Einstein’s Dreams</em></a> by Alan Lightman<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/chatbots-like-the-rest-of-us-just-want-to-be-loved/" rel="nofollow">Chatbots, Like the Rest of Us, Just Want to Be Loved</a><br></li>
<li>D&amp;G Blade Runner Home Edition: <a href="https://www.humanornot.ai/" rel="nofollow">Human or Not?</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/25/chain_of_thought_jailbreaking" rel="nofollow">How nice that state-of-the-art LLMs reveal their reasoning ... for miscreants to exploit</a><br></li>
<li>Emergent Misalignment: <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-trained-ai-models-write-093745140.html" rel="nofollow">Researchers trained AI models to write flawed code—and they began supporting the Nazis and advocating for AI to enslave humans</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWR25xGF74" rel="nofollow">Stunting with Reinforcement Learning</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://futurism.com/vape-tamagotchi" rel="nofollow">There’s a Vape With a Tamagotchi Inside It That Dies If You Stop Puffing</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/a-two-player-arcade-machine-in-a-briefcase-af6ce069779a" rel="nofollow">A Two-Player Arcade Machine in a Briefcase</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 270: Cylon Monkey Paw: 5 AI Predictions for 2025 &amp; How to Build Intelligent Agents</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2025 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Dave visits Carolyn Ford on the Tech Transforms podcast to talk about all things agentic AI!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>45:56</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, Carolyn Ford (https://dgshow.org/guests/cford) welcomes back Dave Egts, Field CTO at MuleSoft, to Tech Transforms (https://techtransforms.fireside.fm/) to explore the transformative power of AI in 2025. They dive into Dave’s top five AI predictions, with a special focus on the rise of agentic AI—AI that doesn’t just suggest, but acts. Dave explains the difference between generative AI and intelligent agents, why integration via APIs is the key to agent success, and how government agencies can prepare now.
Listeners will learn:
What “large action models” (LAMs) are, and how they differ from large language models
How AI agents are already reducing friction in Salesforce and Slack
Why AI success depends on access to high-quality, actionable data
What’s driving the shift toward small language models and what that means for secure, on-device AI
Why “agent-washing” is the new “AI-washing”—and how to spot it
What makes a truly impactful agent vs. a glorified chatbot
Dave’s favorite sci-fi robot, a monkey’s paw superpower wish, and what tech breakthrough he thinks is coming next
Key Topics:
[00:00] Intro &amp;amp; Dave’s blog: “5 AI Predictions for 2025”
[03:00] What’s an AI agent? Why they’re different from GenAI
[07:30] Real-world examples from Salesforce: Agentforce in action
[14:00] The importance of APIs for agent success
[15:45] Government use cases &amp;amp; security considerations
[18:00] Internal AI agents that reduce toil (meeting schedulers, IT help, expense reports)
[22:00] Cylon references &amp;amp; the power of digital labor in public sector
[29:00] Small Language Models: Why smaller might be better
[36:00] LLM Routers explained
[38:00] Fun Tech Talk Q&amp;amp;A (Superpowers, overhyped trends, sci-fi names)
Resources Mentioned:
📖 Dave's Blog: 5 AI Predictions for 2025: Opportunities Tech Leaders Must Seize This Year (https://blogs.mulesoft.com/digital-transformation/ai-predictions/)
💡 Trailhead Learning Platform from Salesforce: Learn to build your own agent (https://trailhead.salesforce.com/)
🤖 Help.Salesforce.com – Try Agentforce (https://help.salesforce.com/s/)
📺 Forbidden Planet (Robby the Robot) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet)
🐒 Monkey’s Paw story reference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey%27s_Paw) Special Guest: Carolyn Ford.
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>AI, agents, agentic AI, MuleSoft, Salesforce, predictions, large action models, LAMs, Slack, small language models, SLMs, large language models, LLMs, Cylons, Battlestar Galactica, The Monkey Paw, Forbidden Planet, Robby the Robot, LLM routers, digital labor, public sector, Agentforce, generative AI, APIs, integration</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/cford" rel="nofollow">Carolyn Ford</a> welcomes back Dave Egts, Field CTO at MuleSoft, to <a href="https://techtransforms.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">Tech Transforms</a> to explore the transformative power of AI in 2025. They dive into Dave’s top five AI predictions, with a special focus on the rise of agentic AI—AI that doesn’t just suggest, but acts. Dave explains the difference between generative AI and intelligent agents, why integration via APIs is the key to agent success, and how government agencies can prepare now.</p>

<p>Listeners will learn:</p>

<p>What “large action models” (LAMs) are, and how they differ from large language models<br>
How AI agents are already reducing friction in Salesforce and Slack<br>
Why AI success depends on access to high-quality, actionable data<br>
What’s driving the shift toward small language models and what that means for secure, on-device AI<br>
Why “agent-washing” is the new “AI-washing”—and how to spot it<br>
What makes a truly impactful agent vs. a glorified chatbot<br>
Dave’s favorite sci-fi robot, a monkey’s paw superpower wish, and what tech breakthrough he thinks is coming next</p>

<p>Key Topics:</p>

<p>[00:00] Intro &amp; Dave’s blog: “5 AI Predictions for 2025”<br>
[03:00] What’s an AI agent? Why they’re different from GenAI<br>
[07:30] Real-world examples from Salesforce: Agentforce in action<br>
[14:00] The importance of APIs for agent success<br>
[15:45] Government use cases &amp; security considerations<br>
[18:00] Internal AI agents that reduce toil (meeting schedulers, IT help, expense reports)<br>
[22:00] Cylon references &amp; the power of digital labor in public sector<br>
[29:00] Small Language Models: Why smaller might be better<br>
[36:00] LLM Routers explained<br>
[38:00] Fun Tech Talk Q&amp;A (Superpowers, overhyped trends, sci-fi names)</p>

<p>Resources Mentioned:</p>

<p>📖 <a href="https://blogs.mulesoft.com/digital-transformation/ai-predictions/" rel="nofollow">Dave&#39;s Blog: 5 AI Predictions for 2025: Opportunities Tech Leaders Must Seize This Year</a><br>
💡 <a href="https://trailhead.salesforce.com/" rel="nofollow">Trailhead Learning Platform from Salesforce: Learn to build your own agent</a><br>
🤖 <a href="https://help.salesforce.com/s/" rel="nofollow">Help.Salesforce.com – Try Agentforce</a><br>
📺 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet" rel="nofollow">Forbidden Planet (Robby the Robot)</a><br>
🐒 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey%27s_Paw" rel="nofollow">Monkey’s Paw story reference</a></p><p>Special Guest: Carolyn Ford.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/cford" rel="nofollow">Carolyn Ford</a> welcomes back Dave Egts, Field CTO at MuleSoft, to <a href="https://techtransforms.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">Tech Transforms</a> to explore the transformative power of AI in 2025. They dive into Dave’s top five AI predictions, with a special focus on the rise of agentic AI—AI that doesn’t just suggest, but acts. Dave explains the difference between generative AI and intelligent agents, why integration via APIs is the key to agent success, and how government agencies can prepare now.</p>

<p>Listeners will learn:</p>

<p>What “large action models” (LAMs) are, and how they differ from large language models<br>
How AI agents are already reducing friction in Salesforce and Slack<br>
Why AI success depends on access to high-quality, actionable data<br>
What’s driving the shift toward small language models and what that means for secure, on-device AI<br>
Why “agent-washing” is the new “AI-washing”—and how to spot it<br>
What makes a truly impactful agent vs. a glorified chatbot<br>
Dave’s favorite sci-fi robot, a monkey’s paw superpower wish, and what tech breakthrough he thinks is coming next</p>

<p>Key Topics:</p>

<p>[00:00] Intro &amp; Dave’s blog: “5 AI Predictions for 2025”<br>
[03:00] What’s an AI agent? Why they’re different from GenAI<br>
[07:30] Real-world examples from Salesforce: Agentforce in action<br>
[14:00] The importance of APIs for agent success<br>
[15:45] Government use cases &amp; security considerations<br>
[18:00] Internal AI agents that reduce toil (meeting schedulers, IT help, expense reports)<br>
[22:00] Cylon references &amp; the power of digital labor in public sector<br>
[29:00] Small Language Models: Why smaller might be better<br>
[36:00] LLM Routers explained<br>
[38:00] Fun Tech Talk Q&amp;A (Superpowers, overhyped trends, sci-fi names)</p>

<p>Resources Mentioned:</p>

<p>📖 <a href="https://blogs.mulesoft.com/digital-transformation/ai-predictions/" rel="nofollow">Dave&#39;s Blog: 5 AI Predictions for 2025: Opportunities Tech Leaders Must Seize This Year</a><br>
💡 <a href="https://trailhead.salesforce.com/" rel="nofollow">Trailhead Learning Platform from Salesforce: Learn to build your own agent</a><br>
🤖 <a href="https://help.salesforce.com/s/" rel="nofollow">Help.Salesforce.com – Try Agentforce</a><br>
📺 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet" rel="nofollow">Forbidden Planet (Robby the Robot)</a><br>
🐒 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey%27s_Paw" rel="nofollow">Monkey’s Paw story reference</a></p><p>Special Guest: Carolyn Ford.</p>]]>
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