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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Moen”</title>
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    <description>David Egts and Gunnar Hellekson discuss privacy, security, robots, and internet ephemera.
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  <title>Episode 281: Four Out of Five Developers Enjoy Code Reviews</title>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about AI for prison inmates, AI for senior citizens, and low-cost haptic exosuits!
Ebird (https://ebird.org/home) and Listers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-wAqplQAo&amp;amp;t=1390s)  
Moen (https://www.moen.com/) update  
Death by Lightning (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31121364/)  
An AI model trained on prison phone calls now looks for planned crimes in those calls (https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/12/01/1128591/an-ai-model-trained-on-prison-phone-calls-is-now-being-used-to-surveil-inmates/)  
Lonely Seniors Are Turning To AI Bots For Companionship (https://www.forbes.com/sites/rashishrivastava/2025/10/18/lonely-seniors-are-turning-to-ai-bots-for-companionship/)  
Kinethreads: A Low Cost Haptic Exo-Suit (https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/kinethreads-a-low-cost-haptic-exo-suit/)  
Almost related: Four out of five developers enjoy code reviews (https://programmerhumor.io/programming-memes/four-out-of-five-developers-enjoy-code-reviews-dyfd)
Cutting Room Floor
Anycrap (https://anycrap.shop/): Bring Impossible Products to Life  
Thought-Cancelling Headphones (https://anycrap.shop/product/thought-cancelling-headphones)  
Dave and Gunnar Show Podcast Bobble Heads (https://anycrap.shop/product/dave-and-gunnar-show-podcast-bobble-heads)  
Donut Hole Repair (https://anycrap.shop/product/donut-hole-repair)  
I’m Not a Robot (https://neal.fun/not-a-robot/)  
Claude Biodome (https://autoncorp.com/biodome/) 
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about AI for prison inmates, AI for senior citizens, and low-cost haptic exosuits!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ebird.org/home" rel="nofollow">Ebird</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-wAqplQAo&t=1390s" rel="nofollow">Listers</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.moen.com/" rel="nofollow">Moen</a> update<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31121364/" rel="nofollow">Death by Lightning</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/12/01/1128591/an-ai-model-trained-on-prison-phone-calls-is-now-being-used-to-surveil-inmates/" rel="nofollow">An AI model trained on prison phone calls now looks for planned crimes in those calls</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/rashishrivastava/2025/10/18/lonely-seniors-are-turning-to-ai-bots-for-companionship/" rel="nofollow">Lonely Seniors Are Turning To AI Bots For Companionship</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/kinethreads-a-low-cost-haptic-exo-suit/" rel="nofollow">Kinethreads: A Low Cost Haptic Exo-Suit</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Almost related: <a href="https://programmerhumor.io/programming-memes/four-out-of-five-developers-enjoy-code-reviews-dyfd" rel="nofollow">Four out of five developers enjoy code reviews</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/" rel="nofollow">Anycrap</a>: Bring Impossible Products to Life<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/thought-cancelling-headphones" rel="nofollow">Thought-Cancelling Headphones</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/dave-and-gunnar-show-podcast-bobble-heads" rel="nofollow">Dave and Gunnar Show Podcast Bobble Heads</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/donut-hole-repair" rel="nofollow">Donut Hole Repair</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://neal.fun/not-a-robot/" rel="nofollow">I’m Not a Robot</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://autoncorp.com/biodome/" rel="nofollow">Claude Biodome</a></li>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about AI for prison inmates, AI for senior citizens, and low-cost haptic exosuits!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ebird.org/home" rel="nofollow">Ebird</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-wAqplQAo&t=1390s" rel="nofollow">Listers</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.moen.com/" rel="nofollow">Moen</a> update<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31121364/" rel="nofollow">Death by Lightning</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/12/01/1128591/an-ai-model-trained-on-prison-phone-calls-is-now-being-used-to-surveil-inmates/" rel="nofollow">An AI model trained on prison phone calls now looks for planned crimes in those calls</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/rashishrivastava/2025/10/18/lonely-seniors-are-turning-to-ai-bots-for-companionship/" rel="nofollow">Lonely Seniors Are Turning To AI Bots For Companionship</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/kinethreads-a-low-cost-haptic-exo-suit/" rel="nofollow">Kinethreads: A Low Cost Haptic Exo-Suit</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Almost related: <a href="https://programmerhumor.io/programming-memes/four-out-of-five-developers-enjoy-code-reviews-dyfd" rel="nofollow">Four out of five developers enjoy code reviews</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/" rel="nofollow">Anycrap</a>: Bring Impossible Products to Life<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/thought-cancelling-headphones" rel="nofollow">Thought-Cancelling Headphones</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/dave-and-gunnar-show-podcast-bobble-heads" rel="nofollow">Dave and Gunnar Show Podcast Bobble Heads</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://anycrap.shop/product/donut-hole-repair" rel="nofollow">Donut Hole Repair</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://neal.fun/not-a-robot/" rel="nofollow">I’m Not a Robot</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://autoncorp.com/biodome/" rel="nofollow">Claude Biodome</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 271: Blade Runner Pepsi Challenge</title>
  <link>https://dgshow.org/271</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2025 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>27:00</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!
Moen’s lifetime warranty (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDiq3RalSQ)  
Gemini (https://gemini.google.com/) multimodal!
When We Cease to Understand the World (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62069739-when-we-cease-to-understand-the-world) by Benjamín Labatut  
Einstein’s Dreams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein's_Dreams) by Alan Lightman  
Chatbots, Like the Rest of Us, Just Want to Be Loved (https://www.wired.com/story/chatbots-like-the-rest-of-us-just-want-to-be-loved/)  
D&amp;amp;G Blade Runner Home Edition: Human or Not? (https://www.humanornot.ai/)  
How nice that state-of-the-art LLMs reveal their reasoning ... for miscreants to exploit (https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/25/chain_of_thought_jailbreaking)  
Emergent Misalignment: Researchers trained AI models to write flawed code—and they began supporting the Nazis and advocating for AI to enslave humans (https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-trained-ai-models-write-093745140.html)
Cutting Room Floor
Stunting with Reinforcement Learning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWR25xGF74)  
There’s a Vape With a Tamagotchi Inside It That Dies If You Stop Puffing (https://futurism.com/vape-tamagotchi)  
A Two-Player Arcade Machine in a Briefcase (https://www.hackster.io/news/a-two-player-arcade-machine-in-a-briefcase-af6ce069779a) 
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  <itunes:keywords>Moen, Gemini, multimodal AI, enslaving humanity, personality tests, Voight-Kampff tests, chatbots, LLMs, Human or Not, chain of thought, CoT, Malicious-Educator,  Hijacking Chain of Thought, H-CoT, emergent misalignment, BMX robots, vaping, Tamagotchi, arcade machines, briefcases</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!</p>

<ul>
<li>Moen’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDiq3RalSQ" rel="nofollow">lifetime warranty</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="nofollow">Gemini</a> multimodal!</li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62069739-when-we-cease-to-understand-the-world" rel="nofollow"><em>When We Cease to Understand the World</em></a> by Benjamín Labatut<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein&#x27;s_Dreams" rel="nofollow"><em>Einstein’s Dreams</em></a> by Alan Lightman<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/chatbots-like-the-rest-of-us-just-want-to-be-loved/" rel="nofollow">Chatbots, Like the Rest of Us, Just Want to Be Loved</a><br></li>
<li>D&amp;G Blade Runner Home Edition: <a href="https://www.humanornot.ai/" rel="nofollow">Human or Not?</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/25/chain_of_thought_jailbreaking" rel="nofollow">How nice that state-of-the-art LLMs reveal their reasoning ... for miscreants to exploit</a><br></li>
<li>Emergent Misalignment: <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-trained-ai-models-write-093745140.html" rel="nofollow">Researchers trained AI models to write flawed code—and they began supporting the Nazis and advocating for AI to enslave humans</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWR25xGF74" rel="nofollow">Stunting with Reinforcement Learning</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://futurism.com/vape-tamagotchi" rel="nofollow">There’s a Vape With a Tamagotchi Inside It That Dies If You Stop Puffing</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/a-two-player-arcade-machine-in-a-briefcase-af6ce069779a" rel="nofollow">A Two-Player Arcade Machine in a Briefcase</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about best practices for manipulating AI models to enslave humanity!</p>

<ul>
<li>Moen’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDiq3RalSQ" rel="nofollow">lifetime warranty</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="nofollow">Gemini</a> multimodal!</li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62069739-when-we-cease-to-understand-the-world" rel="nofollow"><em>When We Cease to Understand the World</em></a> by Benjamín Labatut<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein&#x27;s_Dreams" rel="nofollow"><em>Einstein’s Dreams</em></a> by Alan Lightman<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/chatbots-like-the-rest-of-us-just-want-to-be-loved/" rel="nofollow">Chatbots, Like the Rest of Us, Just Want to Be Loved</a><br></li>
<li>D&amp;G Blade Runner Home Edition: <a href="https://www.humanornot.ai/" rel="nofollow">Human or Not?</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/25/chain_of_thought_jailbreaking" rel="nofollow">How nice that state-of-the-art LLMs reveal their reasoning ... for miscreants to exploit</a><br></li>
<li>Emergent Misalignment: <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-trained-ai-models-write-093745140.html" rel="nofollow">Researchers trained AI models to write flawed code—and they began supporting the Nazis and advocating for AI to enslave humans</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWR25xGF74" rel="nofollow">Stunting with Reinforcement Learning</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://futurism.com/vape-tamagotchi" rel="nofollow">There’s a Vape With a Tamagotchi Inside It That Dies If You Stop Puffing</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/a-two-player-arcade-machine-in-a-briefcase-af6ce069779a" rel="nofollow">A Two-Player Arcade Machine in a Briefcase</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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