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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Monkeys”</title>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
    <description>David Egts and Gunnar Hellekson discuss privacy, security, robots, and internet ephemera.
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    <itunes:subtitle>Not our circus, not our monkey.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <title>Episode 258: Terminator Contortionists</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about audible trackers, coworker avatars, and local deals on slightly used toenail clippers!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>43:42</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about audible trackers, coworker avatars, and local deals on slightly used toenail clippers!
Dave recommends: Hawaii! Zippy’s (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy%27s)! Spam musubi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_musubi)!
Gunnar recommends: Japan! Tokyo! Kyoto! Macaque monkeys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaque)! Nara Park deer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara_Park#Deer)! Google Translate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Translate)!
The creepy sound of online trackers (https://axbom.com/the-creepy-sound-of-online-trackers/)
Check the videos here (https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/tracker-beeper/)!
A Wave of AI Tools Is Set to Transform Work Meetings (https://www.wired.com/story/taking-baby-steps-toward-the-ai-meeting-singularity/)
AI hallucinates software packages and devs download them – even if potentially poisoned with malware (https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/28/ai_bots_hallucinate_software_packages/)
Texas Facilities Commission State Surplus Property Store (https://www.tfc.texas.gov/divisions/supportserv/prog/statesurplus/)
Cutting Room Floor
* Why Is the Slack Hold Music So Haunted and So Good? (https://www.wired.com/story/slack-huddle-hold-music-secret-history/)
    * 60-minute loop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBc2VTmneIE)
* I Hope This Email Finds You (part 1 (https://botsin.space/@thisemailfindsyou) and part 2 (https://mastodon.social/@thisemailfindsyou))
* Boston Dynamics’ new humanoid moves like no robot you’ve ever seen (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/boston-dynamics-debuts-humanoid-robot-destined-for-commercialization/)
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
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  <itunes:keywords>Hawaii, Zippy's, spam musubi, Japan, Tokyo, Kyoto, macaque monkeys, monkeys, Nara Park, deer, Google Translate, online trackers, Otter.ai, avatars, meetings, video calls, AI, malware, typosquatting, Texas Facilities Commission, Surplus Property, Texas Facilities Commission State Surplus Property Store, Slack, Slack hold music, Slack huddles, I hope this email finds you, Boston Dynamics, robots</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about audible trackers, coworker avatars, and local deals on slightly used toenail clippers!</p>

<ul>
<li>Dave recommends: Hawaii! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy%27s" rel="nofollow">Zippy’s</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_musubi" rel="nofollow">Spam musubi</a>!</li>
<li>Gunnar recommends: Japan! Tokyo! Kyoto! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaque" rel="nofollow">Macaque monkeys</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara_Park#Deer" rel="nofollow">Nara Park deer</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Translate" rel="nofollow">Google Translate</a>!</li>
<li><a href="https://axbom.com/the-creepy-sound-of-online-trackers/" rel="nofollow">The creepy sound of online trackers</a>

<ul>
<li>Check the videos <a href="https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/tracker-beeper/" rel="nofollow">here</a>!</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/taking-baby-steps-toward-the-ai-meeting-singularity/" rel="nofollow">A Wave of AI Tools Is Set to Transform Work Meetings</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/28/ai_bots_hallucinate_software_packages/" rel="nofollow">AI hallucinates software packages and devs download them – even if potentially poisoned with malware</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tfc.texas.gov/divisions/supportserv/prog/statesurplus/" rel="nofollow">Texas Facilities Commission State Surplus Property Store</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/slack-huddle-hold-music-secret-history/" rel="nofollow">Why Is the Slack Hold Music So Haunted and So Good?</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBc2VTmneIE" rel="nofollow">60-minute loop</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>I Hope This Email Finds You (<a href="https://botsin.space/@thisemailfindsyou" rel="nofollow">part 1</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@thisemailfindsyou" rel="nofollow">part 2</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/boston-dynamics-debuts-humanoid-robot-destined-for-commercialization/" rel="nofollow">Boston Dynamics’ new humanoid moves like no robot you’ve ever seen</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about audible trackers, coworker avatars, and local deals on slightly used toenail clippers!</p>

<ul>
<li>Dave recommends: Hawaii! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy%27s" rel="nofollow">Zippy’s</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_musubi" rel="nofollow">Spam musubi</a>!</li>
<li>Gunnar recommends: Japan! Tokyo! Kyoto! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaque" rel="nofollow">Macaque monkeys</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara_Park#Deer" rel="nofollow">Nara Park deer</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Translate" rel="nofollow">Google Translate</a>!</li>
<li><a href="https://axbom.com/the-creepy-sound-of-online-trackers/" rel="nofollow">The creepy sound of online trackers</a>

<ul>
<li>Check the videos <a href="https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/tracker-beeper/" rel="nofollow">here</a>!</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/taking-baby-steps-toward-the-ai-meeting-singularity/" rel="nofollow">A Wave of AI Tools Is Set to Transform Work Meetings</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/28/ai_bots_hallucinate_software_packages/" rel="nofollow">AI hallucinates software packages and devs download them – even if potentially poisoned with malware</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tfc.texas.gov/divisions/supportserv/prog/statesurplus/" rel="nofollow">Texas Facilities Commission State Surplus Property Store</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/slack-huddle-hold-music-secret-history/" rel="nofollow">Why Is the Slack Hold Music So Haunted and So Good?</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBc2VTmneIE" rel="nofollow">60-minute loop</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>I Hope This Email Finds You (<a href="https://botsin.space/@thisemailfindsyou" rel="nofollow">part 1</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@thisemailfindsyou" rel="nofollow">part 2</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/boston-dynamics-debuts-humanoid-robot-destined-for-commercialization/" rel="nofollow">Boston Dynamics’ new humanoid moves like no robot you’ve ever seen</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 217: Blow Up Enemies with the Power of Your Mind</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about mind-controlled computing, computer-controlled minds, and AI-controlled doppelgangers!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>42:44</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://twitter.com/davidegts) and Gunnar (http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about) talk about mind-controlled computing, computer-controlled minds, and AI-controlled doppelgangers
  Texas Deep Freeze (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-deep-freeze-caused-texas-to-lose-power/) Apocalypse Watch
  Ministry for the Future (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future) by Kim Stanley Robinson
  Bitwarden Is Now the Best Free Alternative to LastPass (https://lifehacker.com/bitwarden-is-now-the-best-free-alternative-to-lastpass-1846289833)
  Dave’s to-do list to review the state of to-do lists:
  ✅ Remember the Milk (https://www.rememberthemilk.com/)
  ~~Google Tasks (https://support.google.com/tasks/answer/7675772?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&amp;amp;hl=en)~~
  ❓Todoist (https://todoist.com/)
  todoist-shortcuts (https://github.com/mgsloan/todoist-shortcuts) is a browser extension or greasemonkey script which adds a bunch of keyboard shortcuts to Todoist
  Human or GPT-2? (https://doesnotexist.codes/)
  Designed to Deceive: Do These People Look Real to You? (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/21/science/artificial-intelligence-fake-people-faces.html)
  Bonus link: Deepfake Tom Cruise (https://twitter.com/mckaywrigley/status/1364972080513515520)
  Protect your identity with generative media (https://generated.photos/anonymizer)
  NextMind’s Dev Kit for mind-controlled computing offers a rare ‘wow’ factor in tech (https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/21/nextminds-dev-kit-for-mind-controlled-computing-offers-a-rare-wow-factor-in-tech/)
  Researchers Control Monkeys' Decisions With Bursts of Ultrasonic Waves (https://gizmodo.com/researchers-control-monkeys-decisions-with-bursts-of-ul-1843563970)
  Utilizing an EEG to Track When Your Attention Drifts (https://www.hackster.io/news/utilizing-an-eeg-to-track-when-your-attention-drifts-98ea2f0bd8ed)
  Vaccination vs. Immunization vs. Inoculation: What's the Difference? (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/641671/vaccination-vs-immunization-vs-inoculation-whats-difference)
Cutting Room Floor
*   There are Sinks Designed Just for Vomiting Into (https://www.core77.com/posts/105439/There-are-Sinks-Designed-Just-for-Vomiting-Into)
*   Wearing Mask On Bottom of Chin Illusion (Multiple Skin Tones &amp;amp; Features) (https://maskalike.com/collections/novelty-masks/products/mask-on-bottom-of-chin-illusion)
*   Pink Trombone (https://dood.al/pinktrombone/)
*   Wild-Wacky-Cool: Vintage Snapshots of Men’s Hair Through the Ages (https://flashbak.com/wild-wacky-cool-vintage-snapshots-of-mens-hair-through-the-ages-438227/)
We Give Thanks
*   The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Texas, Texas Deep Freeze, Ministry for the Future, Kim Stanley Robinson, to-do lists, Remember the Milk, RTM, Google Tasks, Todoist, todoist-shortcuts, GPT-2, code, dopplegangers, AI, deepfakes, Tom Cruise, generative media, brain-computer interfaces, BCI, ultrasonic, monkeys, brain waves, mind control, EEG, attention tracking, vaccination, immunization, inoculation, masks, vomitoria, Pink Trombone, vintage photos</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about mind-controlled computing, computer-controlled minds, and AI-controlled doppelgangers</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-deep-freeze-caused-texas-to-lose-power/" rel="nofollow">Texas Deep Freeze</a> Apocalypse Watch</li>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future" rel="nofollow">Ministry for the Future</a> by Kim Stanley Robinson</li>
<li>  <a href="https://lifehacker.com/bitwarden-is-now-the-best-free-alternative-to-lastpass-1846289833" rel="nofollow">Bitwarden Is Now the Best Free Alternative to LastPass</a></li>
<li>  Dave’s to-do list to review the state of to-do lists:

<ul>
<li>  ✅ <a href="https://www.rememberthemilk.com/" rel="nofollow">Remember the Milk</a></li>
<li>  <del><a href="https://support.google.com/tasks/answer/7675772?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en" rel="nofollow">Google Tasks</a></del></li>
<li>  ❓<a href="https://todoist.com/" rel="nofollow">Todoist</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://github.com/mgsloan/todoist-shortcuts" rel="nofollow">todoist-shortcuts</a> is a browser extension or greasemonkey script which adds a bunch of keyboard shortcuts to Todoist</li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://doesnotexist.codes/" rel="nofollow">Human or GPT-2?</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/21/science/artificial-intelligence-fake-people-faces.html" rel="nofollow">Designed to Deceive: Do These People Look Real to You?</a>

<ul>
<li>  Bonus link: <a href="https://twitter.com/mckaywrigley/status/1364972080513515520" rel="nofollow">Deepfake Tom Cruise</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://generated.photos/anonymizer" rel="nofollow">Protect your identity with generative media</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/21/nextminds-dev-kit-for-mind-controlled-computing-offers-a-rare-wow-factor-in-tech/" rel="nofollow">NextMind’s Dev Kit for mind-controlled computing offers a rare ‘wow’ factor in tech</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://gizmodo.com/researchers-control-monkeys-decisions-with-bursts-of-ul-1843563970" rel="nofollow">Researchers Control Monkeys&#39; Decisions With Bursts of Ultrasonic Waves</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/utilizing-an-eeg-to-track-when-your-attention-drifts-98ea2f0bd8ed" rel="nofollow">Utilizing an EEG to Track When Your Attention Drifts</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/641671/vaccination-vs-immunization-vs-inoculation-whats-difference" rel="nofollow">Vaccination vs. Immunization vs. Inoculation: What&#39;s the Difference?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.core77.com/posts/105439/There-are-Sinks-Designed-Just-for-Vomiting-Into" rel="nofollow">There are Sinks Designed Just for Vomiting Into</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://maskalike.com/collections/novelty-masks/products/mask-on-bottom-of-chin-illusion" rel="nofollow">Wearing Mask On Bottom of Chin Illusion (Multiple Skin Tones &amp; Features)</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://dood.al/pinktrombone/" rel="nofollow">Pink Trombone</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://flashbak.com/wild-wacky-cool-vintage-snapshots-of-mens-hair-through-the-ages-438227/" rel="nofollow">Wild-Wacky-Cool: Vintage Snapshots of Men’s Hair Through the Ages</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about mind-controlled computing, computer-controlled minds, and AI-controlled doppelgangers</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-deep-freeze-caused-texas-to-lose-power/" rel="nofollow">Texas Deep Freeze</a> Apocalypse Watch</li>
<li>  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future" rel="nofollow">Ministry for the Future</a> by Kim Stanley Robinson</li>
<li>  <a href="https://lifehacker.com/bitwarden-is-now-the-best-free-alternative-to-lastpass-1846289833" rel="nofollow">Bitwarden Is Now the Best Free Alternative to LastPass</a></li>
<li>  Dave’s to-do list to review the state of to-do lists:

<ul>
<li>  ✅ <a href="https://www.rememberthemilk.com/" rel="nofollow">Remember the Milk</a></li>
<li>  <del><a href="https://support.google.com/tasks/answer/7675772?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en" rel="nofollow">Google Tasks</a></del></li>
<li>  ❓<a href="https://todoist.com/" rel="nofollow">Todoist</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://github.com/mgsloan/todoist-shortcuts" rel="nofollow">todoist-shortcuts</a> is a browser extension or greasemonkey script which adds a bunch of keyboard shortcuts to Todoist</li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://doesnotexist.codes/" rel="nofollow">Human or GPT-2?</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/21/science/artificial-intelligence-fake-people-faces.html" rel="nofollow">Designed to Deceive: Do These People Look Real to You?</a>

<ul>
<li>  Bonus link: <a href="https://twitter.com/mckaywrigley/status/1364972080513515520" rel="nofollow">Deepfake Tom Cruise</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://generated.photos/anonymizer" rel="nofollow">Protect your identity with generative media</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/21/nextminds-dev-kit-for-mind-controlled-computing-offers-a-rare-wow-factor-in-tech/" rel="nofollow">NextMind’s Dev Kit for mind-controlled computing offers a rare ‘wow’ factor in tech</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://gizmodo.com/researchers-control-monkeys-decisions-with-bursts-of-ul-1843563970" rel="nofollow">Researchers Control Monkeys&#39; Decisions With Bursts of Ultrasonic Waves</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/utilizing-an-eeg-to-track-when-your-attention-drifts-98ea2f0bd8ed" rel="nofollow">Utilizing an EEG to Track When Your Attention Drifts</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/641671/vaccination-vs-immunization-vs-inoculation-whats-difference" rel="nofollow">Vaccination vs. Immunization vs. Inoculation: What&#39;s the Difference?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.core77.com/posts/105439/There-are-Sinks-Designed-Just-for-Vomiting-Into" rel="nofollow">There are Sinks Designed Just for Vomiting Into</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://maskalike.com/collections/novelty-masks/products/mask-on-bottom-of-chin-illusion" rel="nofollow">Wearing Mask On Bottom of Chin Illusion (Multiple Skin Tones &amp; Features)</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://dood.al/pinktrombone/" rel="nofollow">Pink Trombone</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://flashbak.com/wild-wacky-cool-vintage-snapshots-of-mens-hair-through-the-ages-438227/" rel="nofollow">Wild-Wacky-Cool: Vintage Snapshots of Men’s Hair Through the Ages</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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  <title>Episode 212: Security Requires Thinking (His Monkey, His Circus)</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2021 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk with Dr. David A. Wheeler about what’s new at the Linux Foundation, a brand-new free course on developing secure software, some survey results, and recent news concerning SolarWinds.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>49:59</itunes:duration>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://twitter.com/davidegts) and Gunnar (http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about) talk with Dr. David A. Wheeler (https://twitter.com/drdavidawheeler) about what’s new at the Linux Foundation, a brand-new free course on developing secure software, some survey results, and recent news concerning SolarWinds.
  Open Source Security Foundation (OpenSSF) (https://openssf.org/) of the Linux Foundation replaces the Core Infrastructure Initiative (CII) and has several working groups
  Secure Software Development Fundamentals Courses (https://openssf.org/edx-courses/)
  The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative (CII) Badge Program (https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/en) is now part of the OpenSSF Best Practices Working Group
  Project statistics (https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/project_stats), now &amp;gt;3,500 participating projects &amp;amp;  &amp;gt;500 passing badges
  If you develop OSS, make sure your projects are pursuing a badge (https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/)
  “Report on the 2020 FOSS Contributor Survey” (https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/press-release/new-open-source-contributor-report-from-linux-foundation-and-harvard-identifies-motivations-and-opportunities-for-improving-software-security/) - these are the RESULTS of the survey call we discussed last time - THANK YOU to everyone who participated in the contributor survey
  If you’re interested, please join!
  The Linux Foundation (https://www.linuxfoundation.org/) (other than OpenSSF)
  Linux Foundation Energy (https://www.lfenergy.org/)
  Linux Foundation Public Health (https://www.lfph.io/)
  The Linux Foundation Public Health Initiative Sponsored the Audit of COVID Exposure Notification Apps. Here Are The Results! (OSTIF) (https://ostif.org/the-linux-foundation-public-health-initiative-sponsored-the-audit-of-covid-exposure-notification-apps-here-are-the-results/) - “Because of these two reviews, both applications have had improvements implemented to correct potential issues. This review provides assurances that the applications are generally safe and private.”
  Reproducible Builds in December 2020 (https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2020-12/)
  Preventing Supply Chain Attacks like SolarWinds (https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/preventing-supply-chain-attacks-like-solarwinds/)
  Be sure to visit David on the internet at dwheeler.com (https://dwheeler.com/)!
We Give Thanks
*   Dr. David A. Wheeler (https://twitter.com/drdavidawheeler) for being our special guest star! Special Guest: David A. Wheeler.
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  <itunes:keywords>circuses, monkeys, the Linux Foundation, open source, OSS, the Open Source Security Foundation, OSSF, badge program, CII Badge Program, Core Infrastructure Initiative, SolarWinds, reproducible builds, COVID, COVID exposure notification apps, FOSS Contributor Survey</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk with <a href="https://twitter.com/drdavidawheeler" rel="nofollow">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> about what’s new at the Linux Foundation, a brand-new free course on developing secure software, some survey results, and recent news concerning SolarWinds.</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://openssf.org/" rel="nofollow">Open Source Security Foundation (OpenSSF)</a> of the Linux Foundation replaces the Core Infrastructure Initiative (CII) and has several working groups

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://openssf.org/edx-courses/" rel="nofollow">Secure Software Development Fundamentals Courses</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/en" rel="nofollow">The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative (CII) Badge Program</a> is now part of the OpenSSF Best Practices Working Group

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/project_stats" rel="nofollow">Project statistics</a>, now &gt;3,500 participating projects &amp;  &gt;500 passing badges</li>
<li>  If you develop OSS, make sure your projects are <a href="https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/" rel="nofollow">pursuing a badge</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/press-release/new-open-source-contributor-report-from-linux-foundation-and-harvard-identifies-motivations-and-opportunities-for-improving-software-security/" rel="nofollow">“Report on the 2020 FOSS Contributor Survey”</a> - these are the RESULTS of the survey call we discussed last time - THANK YOU to everyone who participated in the contributor survey</li>
<li>  If you’re interested, please join!</li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow">The Linux Foundation</a> (other than OpenSSF)

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.lfenergy.org/" rel="nofollow">Linux Foundation Energy</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.lfph.io/" rel="nofollow">Linux Foundation Public Health</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://ostif.org/the-linux-foundation-public-health-initiative-sponsored-the-audit-of-covid-exposure-notification-apps-here-are-the-results/" rel="nofollow">The Linux Foundation Public Health Initiative Sponsored the Audit of COVID Exposure Notification Apps. Here Are The Results! (OSTIF)</a> - “Because of these two reviews, both applications have had improvements implemented to correct potential issues. This review provides assurances that the applications are generally safe and private.”</li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2020-12/" rel="nofollow">Reproducible Builds in December 2020</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/preventing-supply-chain-attacks-like-solarwinds/" rel="nofollow">Preventing Supply Chain Attacks like SolarWinds</a></li>
<li>  Be sure to visit David on the internet at <a href="https://dwheeler.com/" rel="nofollow">dwheeler.com</a>!</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://twitter.com/drdavidawheeler" rel="nofollow">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> for being our special guest star!</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: David A. Wheeler.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk with <a href="https://twitter.com/drdavidawheeler" rel="nofollow">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> about what’s new at the Linux Foundation, a brand-new free course on developing secure software, some survey results, and recent news concerning SolarWinds.</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://openssf.org/" rel="nofollow">Open Source Security Foundation (OpenSSF)</a> of the Linux Foundation replaces the Core Infrastructure Initiative (CII) and has several working groups

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://openssf.org/edx-courses/" rel="nofollow">Secure Software Development Fundamentals Courses</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/en" rel="nofollow">The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative (CII) Badge Program</a> is now part of the OpenSSF Best Practices Working Group

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/project_stats" rel="nofollow">Project statistics</a>, now &gt;3,500 participating projects &amp;  &gt;500 passing badges</li>
<li>  If you develop OSS, make sure your projects are <a href="https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/" rel="nofollow">pursuing a badge</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/press-release/new-open-source-contributor-report-from-linux-foundation-and-harvard-identifies-motivations-and-opportunities-for-improving-software-security/" rel="nofollow">“Report on the 2020 FOSS Contributor Survey”</a> - these are the RESULTS of the survey call we discussed last time - THANK YOU to everyone who participated in the contributor survey</li>
<li>  If you’re interested, please join!</li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow">The Linux Foundation</a> (other than OpenSSF)

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.lfenergy.org/" rel="nofollow">Linux Foundation Energy</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.lfph.io/" rel="nofollow">Linux Foundation Public Health</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://ostif.org/the-linux-foundation-public-health-initiative-sponsored-the-audit-of-covid-exposure-notification-apps-here-are-the-results/" rel="nofollow">The Linux Foundation Public Health Initiative Sponsored the Audit of COVID Exposure Notification Apps. Here Are The Results! (OSTIF)</a> - “Because of these two reviews, both applications have had improvements implemented to correct potential issues. This review provides assurances that the applications are generally safe and private.”</li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li>  <a href="https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2020-12/" rel="nofollow">Reproducible Builds in December 2020</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/preventing-supply-chain-attacks-like-solarwinds/" rel="nofollow">Preventing Supply Chain Attacks like SolarWinds</a></li>
<li>  Be sure to visit David on the internet at <a href="https://dwheeler.com/" rel="nofollow">dwheeler.com</a>!</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://twitter.com/drdavidawheeler" rel="nofollow">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> for being our special guest star!</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: David A. Wheeler.</p>]]>
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