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  <title>Episode 224: Smells Like Sauerkraut</title>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about the norms of dream coercion, the norms of encrypted messaging, and the norms of ransomware game theory
Bo Burnham’s “Inside” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU)
Foo Fighters at the ICON Music Center (https://iconmusiccenter.com/)
Are advertisers coming for your dreams? (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06/are-advertisers-coming-your-dreams)
Silent Lucidity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw) by Queensryche
Unrelated: Sleep Sensing on Nest Hub (2nd gen) (https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10357288)
Also unrelated: Amazon.com Wants to Monitor You in Your Sleep, for Your Benefit (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-09/amazon-com-wants-to-monitor-you-in-your-sleep-for-your-benefit)
We Got the Phone the FBI Secretly Sold to Criminals (https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7b4gg/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor)
Why everyone should use disappearing messages on WhatsApp and Signal (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-signal-disappearing-messages)
Related XKCD (https://xkcd.com/538/)
Opinion | Could Ransomware Become a Geopolitical Weapon? Game Theory Says Yes. (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/08/ransomware-game-theory-geopolitics-cyber-attack-498625)
Cutting Room Floor
* Smells Like Teen Spirit Cover In Classical Latin (75 BC to 3rd Century AD) Bardcore (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk)
* Frozen’s “Let It Go” Performed in Klingon (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/606709/frozens-let-it-go-in-klingon)
    * “Don’t Stop Believin’” Performed in Klingon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOJoOtk7Scw)
* Subterranean Homesick Blues Performed in a Regional Jet Restroom (https://www.openculture.com/2021/06/the-airline-toilets-theatre-company.html) as performed by the Airline Toilets Theatre Company (and member of the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain (https://www.ukuleleorchestra.com/))
* ”Take on Me” Performed by Face Smacking (https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/o137d0/oc_i_discovered_that_i_can_play_a_melody_by/)
* Sublime Text (https://what-i-got.glitch.me/) to get What I Got
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about the norms of dream coercion, the norms of encrypted messaging, and the norms of ransomware game theory</p>

<ul>
<li>Bo Burnham’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU" rel="nofollow">“Inside”</a></li>
<li>Foo Fighters at the <a href="https://iconmusiccenter.com/" rel="nofollow">ICON Music Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06/are-advertisers-coming-your-dreams" rel="nofollow">Are advertisers coming for your dreams?</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw" rel="nofollow">Silent Lucidity</a> by Queensryche</li>
<li>Unrelated: <a href="https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10357288" rel="nofollow">Sleep Sensing on Nest Hub (2nd gen)</a></li>
<li>Also unrelated: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-09/amazon-com-wants-to-monitor-you-in-your-sleep-for-your-benefit" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com Wants to Monitor You in Your Sleep, for Your Benefit</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7b4gg/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor" rel="nofollow">We Got the Phone the FBI Secretly Sold to Criminals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-signal-disappearing-messages" rel="nofollow">Why everyone should use disappearing messages on WhatsApp and Signal</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://xkcd.com/538/" rel="nofollow">Related XKCD</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/08/ransomware-game-theory-geopolitics-cyber-attack-498625" rel="nofollow">Opinion | Could Ransomware Become a Geopolitical Weapon? Game Theory Says Yes.</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk" rel="nofollow">Smells Like Teen Spirit Cover In Classical Latin (75 BC to 3rd Century AD) Bardcore</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/606709/frozens-let-it-go-in-klingon" rel="nofollow">Frozen’s “Let It Go” Performed in Klingon</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOJoOtk7Scw" rel="nofollow">“Don’t Stop Believin’” Performed in Klingon</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2021/06/the-airline-toilets-theatre-company.html" rel="nofollow">Subterranean Homesick Blues Performed in a Regional Jet Restroom</a> as performed by the Airline Toilets Theatre Company (and member of <a href="https://www.ukuleleorchestra.com/" rel="nofollow">the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/o137d0/oc_i_discovered_that_i_can_play_a_melody_by/" rel="nofollow">”Take on Me” Performed by Face Smacking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://what-i-got.glitch.me/" rel="nofollow">Sublime Text</a> to get What I Got</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about the norms of dream coercion, the norms of encrypted messaging, and the norms of ransomware game theory</p>

<ul>
<li>Bo Burnham’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU" rel="nofollow">“Inside”</a></li>
<li>Foo Fighters at the <a href="https://iconmusiccenter.com/" rel="nofollow">ICON Music Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06/are-advertisers-coming-your-dreams" rel="nofollow">Are advertisers coming for your dreams?</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw" rel="nofollow">Silent Lucidity</a> by Queensryche</li>
<li>Unrelated: <a href="https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10357288" rel="nofollow">Sleep Sensing on Nest Hub (2nd gen)</a></li>
<li>Also unrelated: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-09/amazon-com-wants-to-monitor-you-in-your-sleep-for-your-benefit" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com Wants to Monitor You in Your Sleep, for Your Benefit</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7b4gg/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor" rel="nofollow">We Got the Phone the FBI Secretly Sold to Criminals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-signal-disappearing-messages" rel="nofollow">Why everyone should use disappearing messages on WhatsApp and Signal</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://xkcd.com/538/" rel="nofollow">Related XKCD</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/08/ransomware-game-theory-geopolitics-cyber-attack-498625" rel="nofollow">Opinion | Could Ransomware Become a Geopolitical Weapon? Game Theory Says Yes.</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk" rel="nofollow">Smells Like Teen Spirit Cover In Classical Latin (75 BC to 3rd Century AD) Bardcore</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/606709/frozens-let-it-go-in-klingon" rel="nofollow">Frozen’s “Let It Go” Performed in Klingon</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOJoOtk7Scw" rel="nofollow">“Don’t Stop Believin’” Performed in Klingon</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2021/06/the-airline-toilets-theatre-company.html" rel="nofollow">Subterranean Homesick Blues Performed in a Regional Jet Restroom</a> as performed by the Airline Toilets Theatre Company (and member of <a href="https://www.ukuleleorchestra.com/" rel="nofollow">the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/o137d0/oc_i_discovered_that_i_can_play_a_melody_by/" rel="nofollow">”Take on Me” Performed by Face Smacking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://what-i-got.glitch.me/" rel="nofollow">Sublime Text</a> to get What I Got</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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