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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Robot Lawyers”</title>
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  <title>Episode 257: Flowers from Heaven</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about AI for fake law firms, AI for politicians, drones for electric vehicles, and paid memberships for Chuck E. Cheese!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>31:21</itunes:duration>
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  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about AI for fake law firms, AI for politicians, drones for electric vehicles, and paid memberships for Chuck E. Cheese!
Resident Alien (TV series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Alien_(TV_series))
Multi-Level Summarization in Instapaper (https://bthdonohue.com/2024/04/24/multilevel-summarization-instapaper.html)
Pixel Buds Pro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_Buds#Pixel_Buds_Pro)
A ‘Law Firm’ of AI Generated Lawyers Is Sending Fake Threats as an SEO Scam (https://www.404media.co/a-law-firm-of-ai-generated-lawyers-is-sending-fake-threats-as-an-seo-scam/)
Commonwealth Legal Services (https://www.commonwealth-team.net/)
Liberals accuse Conservatives of using AI for amendments to jobs bill as votes loom (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sustainable-jobs-bill-amendments-1.7171414)
EVs With Built-In Camera Drones Have Already Landed in China (https://www.wired.com/story/evs-with-built-in-camera-drones-have-already-landed-in-china/)
M.A.S.K. (TV series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.A.S.K._(TV_series))
Cheap Russian drones overwhelm US-made Abrams tanks, taken out of action (https://www.intellinews.com/cheap-russian-drones-overwhelm-us-made-abrams-tanks-taken-out-of-action-322988/)
Want to feel special? Stores and restaurants with paid memberships are betting on it (https://apnews.com/article/paid-loyalty-memberships-chuck-echeese-target-walmart-a85e0aa7c6400fa1a7b0cc97de77fc63)
Cutting Room Floor
* New thermal paste smells like flowers from heaven (https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/thermal-paste/new-thermal-paste-smells-like-flowers-from-heaven)
* MIT License text becomes viral “sad girl” piano ballad generated by AI (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/mit-license-text-becomes-viral-sad-girl-piano-ballad-generated-by-ai/)
    * See also: Jenkins, I call on you now (https://suno.com/song/41249610-2f72-4013-92ae-08e41c93733a)
* What If Your AI Girlfriend Hated You? (https://www.wired.com/story/what-if-your-ai-girlfriend-hated-you/)
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
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  <itunes:keywords>Resident Alien, Instapaper, Pixel Buds, Pixel Buds Pro, noise cancellation, law firms, AI, robot lawyers, SEO, SEO scams, 1000 yard stare, Commonwealth Legal Services, legislation, AI legislation, EVs, electric vehicles, drones, MASK, tanks, memberships, restaurants, thermal paste, scented thermal paste, flowers from heaven, MIT license, sad girl, AI girlfriends</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about AI for fake law firms, AI for politicians, drones for electric vehicles, and paid memberships for Chuck E. Cheese!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Alien_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">Resident Alien (TV series)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bthdonohue.com/2024/04/24/multilevel-summarization-instapaper.html" rel="nofollow">Multi-Level Summarization in Instapaper</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_Buds#Pixel_Buds_Pro" rel="nofollow">Pixel Buds Pro</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.404media.co/a-law-firm-of-ai-generated-lawyers-is-sending-fake-threats-as-an-seo-scam/" rel="nofollow">A ‘Law Firm’ of AI Generated Lawyers Is Sending Fake Threats as an SEO Scam</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.commonwealth-team.net/" rel="nofollow">Commonwealth Legal Services</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sustainable-jobs-bill-amendments-1.7171414" rel="nofollow">Liberals accuse Conservatives of using AI for amendments to jobs bill as votes loom</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/evs-with-built-in-camera-drones-have-already-landed-in-china/" rel="nofollow">EVs With Built-In Camera Drones Have Already Landed in China</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.A.S.K._(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">M.A.S.K. (TV series)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.intellinews.com/cheap-russian-drones-overwhelm-us-made-abrams-tanks-taken-out-of-action-322988/" rel="nofollow">Cheap Russian drones overwhelm US-made Abrams tanks, taken out of action</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://apnews.com/article/paid-loyalty-memberships-chuck-echeese-target-walmart-a85e0aa7c6400fa1a7b0cc97de77fc63" rel="nofollow">Want to feel special? Stores and restaurants with paid memberships are betting on it</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/thermal-paste/new-thermal-paste-smells-like-flowers-from-heaven" rel="nofollow">New thermal paste smells like flowers from heaven</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/mit-license-text-becomes-viral-sad-girl-piano-ballad-generated-by-ai/" rel="nofollow">MIT License text becomes viral “sad girl” piano ballad generated by AI</a>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://suno.com/song/41249610-2f72-4013-92ae-08e41c93733a" rel="nofollow">Jenkins, I call on you now</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/what-if-your-ai-girlfriend-hated-you/" rel="nofollow">What If Your AI Girlfriend Hated You?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about AI for fake law firms, AI for politicians, drones for electric vehicles, and paid memberships for Chuck E. Cheese!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Alien_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">Resident Alien (TV series)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bthdonohue.com/2024/04/24/multilevel-summarization-instapaper.html" rel="nofollow">Multi-Level Summarization in Instapaper</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_Buds#Pixel_Buds_Pro" rel="nofollow">Pixel Buds Pro</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.404media.co/a-law-firm-of-ai-generated-lawyers-is-sending-fake-threats-as-an-seo-scam/" rel="nofollow">A ‘Law Firm’ of AI Generated Lawyers Is Sending Fake Threats as an SEO Scam</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.commonwealth-team.net/" rel="nofollow">Commonwealth Legal Services</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sustainable-jobs-bill-amendments-1.7171414" rel="nofollow">Liberals accuse Conservatives of using AI for amendments to jobs bill as votes loom</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/evs-with-built-in-camera-drones-have-already-landed-in-china/" rel="nofollow">EVs With Built-In Camera Drones Have Already Landed in China</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.A.S.K._(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">M.A.S.K. (TV series)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.intellinews.com/cheap-russian-drones-overwhelm-us-made-abrams-tanks-taken-out-of-action-322988/" rel="nofollow">Cheap Russian drones overwhelm US-made Abrams tanks, taken out of action</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://apnews.com/article/paid-loyalty-memberships-chuck-echeese-target-walmart-a85e0aa7c6400fa1a7b0cc97de77fc63" rel="nofollow">Want to feel special? Stores and restaurants with paid memberships are betting on it</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/thermal-paste/new-thermal-paste-smells-like-flowers-from-heaven" rel="nofollow">New thermal paste smells like flowers from heaven</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/mit-license-text-becomes-viral-sad-girl-piano-ballad-generated-by-ai/" rel="nofollow">MIT License text becomes viral “sad girl” piano ballad generated by AI</a>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://suno.com/song/41249610-2f72-4013-92ae-08e41c93733a" rel="nofollow">Jenkins, I call on you now</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/what-if-your-ai-girlfriend-hated-you/" rel="nofollow">What If Your AI Girlfriend Hated You?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 231: Picking Quarrels and Provoking Trouble</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about automating ransomware, automating prosecution, automating defense attorneys, and a bridge</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>25:19</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/1b67eddd-d80f-444d-ba32-aa9ef36b589d/episodes/e/e4878bf1-a4ca-40be-9e78-7599ecee965e/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about automating ransomware, automating prosecution, automating defense attorneys, and a bridge
“Sent from my iPhone”: 5 Helpful Tips on How to Write Emails from Your Phone (https://www.grammarly.com/blog/how-to-write-emails-from-mobile/)
Air Conditioning test in Allendale (https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/austin-air-conditioned-village)
FBI: FIN7 hackers target US companies with BadUSB devices to install ransomware (https://therecord.media/fbi-fin7-hackers-target-us-companies-with-badusb-devices-to-install-ransomware/)
See also: D&amp;amp;G 138 (https://dgshow.org/138) (from 2017!)
Almost related: Remote staff are using ‘mouse movers’ to keep their computer awake and fool the boss (https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/09/remote-staff-use-mouse-movers-to-keep-laptops-awake-and-fool-bosses-15741764/)
Chinese scientists develop AI ‘prosecutor’ that can press its own charges (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3160997/chinese-scientists-develop-ai-prosecutor-can-press-its-own)
"A computer can never be held accountable. Therefore, a computer must never make a management decision." (https://photos.app.goo.gl/Mi2jpYcpsCfiQKfH8)
DoNotPay: This 'Robot Lawyer' Might Save Your Banned Social Media Account (https://gizmodo.com/this-robot-lawyer-might-save-your-banned-social-media-a-1848260777)
Akron police investigating after 58-foot bridge goes missing (https://fox8.com/news/akron-police-investigating-after-58-foot-bridge-went-missing/)
Suspect charged after 58-foot bridge stolen in Akron (https://fox8.com/news/suspect-charged-after-58-foot-bridge-stolen-in-akron/)
Cutting Room Floor
* Blower (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blower/id335862325): Blow out candles with iPhone!
    * How Does This App Blow Out Candles? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX6XSs2T5Go)
* Henry Kissinger fulfilling his dream of being a weatherman. (http://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/henry_kissinger_weatherman)
* What your favorite sad dad band says about you (https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/what-your-favorite-sad-dad-band-says-about-you)
We Give Thanks
* The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>iPhone, email, Kevin Rose, Allendale, Austin, Texas, air conditioning, FIN7, BadUSB, ransomware, Arduino, Arduino Leonardo, open source, mouse movers, mouse jigglers, management, AI, prosecution, AI prosecutor, DoNotPay, robot lawyers, Akron, bridges, theft, larsony, Blower, candles, Henry Kissinger, weather, dad bands</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about automating ransomware, automating prosecution, automating defense attorneys, and a bridge</p>

<ul>
<li>“Sent from my iPhone”: <a href="https://www.grammarly.com/blog/how-to-write-emails-from-mobile/" rel="nofollow">5 Helpful Tips on How to Write Emails from Your Phone</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/austin-air-conditioned-village" rel="nofollow">Air Conditioning test in Allendale</a></li>
<li><a href="https://therecord.media/fbi-fin7-hackers-target-us-companies-with-badusb-devices-to-install-ransomware/" rel="nofollow">FBI: FIN7 hackers target US companies with BadUSB devices to install ransomware</a>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://dgshow.org/138" rel="nofollow">D&amp;G 138</a> (from 2017!)</li>
<li>Almost related: <a href="https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/09/remote-staff-use-mouse-movers-to-keep-laptops-awake-and-fool-bosses-15741764/" rel="nofollow">Remote staff are using ‘mouse movers’ to keep their computer awake and fool the boss</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3160997/chinese-scientists-develop-ai-prosecutor-can-press-its-own" rel="nofollow">Chinese scientists develop AI ‘prosecutor’ that can press its own charges</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/Mi2jpYcpsCfiQKfH8" rel="nofollow">&quot;A computer can never be held accountable. Therefore, a computer must never make a management decision.&quot;</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>DoNotPay: <a href="https://gizmodo.com/this-robot-lawyer-might-save-your-banned-social-media-a-1848260777" rel="nofollow">This &#39;Robot Lawyer&#39; Might Save Your Banned Social Media Account</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fox8.com/news/akron-police-investigating-after-58-foot-bridge-went-missing/" rel="nofollow">Akron police investigating after 58-foot bridge goes missing</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://fox8.com/news/suspect-charged-after-58-foot-bridge-stolen-in-akron/" rel="nofollow">Suspect charged after 58-foot bridge stolen in Akron</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blower/id335862325" rel="nofollow">Blower</a>: Blow out candles with iPhone!

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX6XSs2T5Go" rel="nofollow">How Does This App Blow Out Candles?</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/henry_kissinger_weatherman" rel="nofollow">Henry Kissinger fulfilling his dream of being a weatherman.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/what-your-favorite-sad-dad-band-says-about-you" rel="nofollow">What your favorite sad dad band says about you</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about automating ransomware, automating prosecution, automating defense attorneys, and a bridge</p>

<ul>
<li>“Sent from my iPhone”: <a href="https://www.grammarly.com/blog/how-to-write-emails-from-mobile/" rel="nofollow">5 Helpful Tips on How to Write Emails from Your Phone</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/austin-air-conditioned-village" rel="nofollow">Air Conditioning test in Allendale</a></li>
<li><a href="https://therecord.media/fbi-fin7-hackers-target-us-companies-with-badusb-devices-to-install-ransomware/" rel="nofollow">FBI: FIN7 hackers target US companies with BadUSB devices to install ransomware</a>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://dgshow.org/138" rel="nofollow">D&amp;G 138</a> (from 2017!)</li>
<li>Almost related: <a href="https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/09/remote-staff-use-mouse-movers-to-keep-laptops-awake-and-fool-bosses-15741764/" rel="nofollow">Remote staff are using ‘mouse movers’ to keep their computer awake and fool the boss</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3160997/chinese-scientists-develop-ai-prosecutor-can-press-its-own" rel="nofollow">Chinese scientists develop AI ‘prosecutor’ that can press its own charges</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/Mi2jpYcpsCfiQKfH8" rel="nofollow">&quot;A computer can never be held accountable. Therefore, a computer must never make a management decision.&quot;</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>DoNotPay: <a href="https://gizmodo.com/this-robot-lawyer-might-save-your-banned-social-media-a-1848260777" rel="nofollow">This &#39;Robot Lawyer&#39; Might Save Your Banned Social Media Account</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fox8.com/news/akron-police-investigating-after-58-foot-bridge-went-missing/" rel="nofollow">Akron police investigating after 58-foot bridge goes missing</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://fox8.com/news/suspect-charged-after-58-foot-bridge-stolen-in-akron/" rel="nofollow">Suspect charged after 58-foot bridge stolen in Akron</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blower/id335862325" rel="nofollow">Blower</a>: Blow out candles with iPhone!

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX6XSs2T5Go" rel="nofollow">How Does This App Blow Out Candles?</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/henry_kissinger_weatherman" rel="nofollow">Henry Kissinger fulfilling his dream of being a weatherman.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/what-your-favorite-sad-dad-band-says-about-you" rel="nofollow">What your favorite sad dad band says about you</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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