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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Sales”</title>
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    <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
    <description>David Egts and Gunnar Hellekson discuss privacy, security, robots, and internet ephemera.</description>
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  <title>Episode 285: Location, Location, Threat Model</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about markdown, caveman, and dark software factories!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>36:33</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about markdown, caveman, and dark software factories!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://warhammer40000.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Warhammer 40,000&lt;/a&gt;: “In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_Aren%27t_Real" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Birds Aren’t Real&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/13/0115243/robot-birds-deployed-by-park-to-attract-real-birds---built-by-high-school-students" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Robot Birds Deployed by Park to Attract Real Birds - Built By High School Students&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.cloudflare.com/markdown-for-agents/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Introducing Markdown for Agents&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Counterpoint: &lt;a href="https://bgslabs.org/blog/why-are-we-using-markdown/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Why the heck are we still using Markdown??&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/JuliusBrussee/caveman" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;caveman&lt;/a&gt;: why use many token when few do trick&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;See also: &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Chinese" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Classical Chinese&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dark Software Factories&lt;br&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDcgHzCBgmQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The 5 Levels of AI Coding (Why Most of You Won't Make It Past Level 2)&lt;/a&gt; by Nate B. Jones&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;StrongDM Software Factory: &lt;a href="https://factory.strongdm.ai/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Software Factories And The Agentic Moment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.danshapiro.com/blog/2026/01/the-five-levels-from-spicy-autocomplete-to-the-software-factory/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Five Levels: from Spicy Autocomplete to the Dark Factory&lt;/a&gt; by Dan Shapiro&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/208564/freedoms-forge-by-arthur-herman/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Freedom’s Forge&lt;/a&gt; by Arthur Herman&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXgkQ3nYeE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;I Watched 3 Companies Lay Off Their Managers. All 3 Hit the Same Wall.&lt;/a&gt; by Nate B. Jones&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://editor.p5js.org/isohedral/full/vJa5RiZWs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Interactive XKCD Dependency comic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/19/A-Unique-Property-For-Sale-In-Pennsylvania/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A Unique Property For Sale In Pennsylvania&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/16/Luxurious-Home-in-a-Decommissioned-Grain-Elevator/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Luxurious Home in a Decommissioned Grain Elevator&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about markdown, caveman, and dark software factories!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://warhammer40000.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Warhammer 40,000</a>: “In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.”<br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_Aren%27t_Real" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Birds Aren’t Real</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/13/0115243/robot-birds-deployed-by-park-to-attract-real-birds---built-by-high-school-students" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Robot Birds Deployed by Park to Attract Real Birds - Built By High School Students</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.cloudflare.com/markdown-for-agents/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Introducing Markdown for Agents</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Counterpoint: <a href="https://bgslabs.org/blog/why-are-we-using-markdown/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Why the heck are we still using Markdown??</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/JuliusBrussee/caveman" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">caveman</a>: why use many token when few do trick<br></li>
<li>See also: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Chinese" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Classical Chinese</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Dark Software Factories<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDcgHzCBgmQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The 5 Levels of AI Coding (Why Most of You Won't Make It Past Level 2)</a> by Nate B. Jones<br></li>
<li>StrongDM Software Factory: <a href="https://factory.strongdm.ai/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Software Factories And The Agentic Moment</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.danshapiro.com/blog/2026/01/the-five-levels-from-spicy-autocomplete-to-the-software-factory/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Five Levels: from Spicy Autocomplete to the Dark Factory</a> by Dan Shapiro<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/208564/freedoms-forge-by-arthur-herman/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Freedom’s Forge</a> by Arthur Herman<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXgkQ3nYeE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I Watched 3 Companies Lay Off Their Managers. All 3 Hit the Same Wall.</a> by Nate B. Jones</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://editor.p5js.org/isohedral/full/vJa5RiZWs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Interactive XKCD Dependency comic</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/19/A-Unique-Property-For-Sale-In-Pennsylvania/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Unique Property For Sale In Pennsylvania</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/16/Luxurious-Home-in-a-Decommissioned-Grain-Elevator/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Luxurious Home in a Decommissioned Grain Elevator</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about markdown, caveman, and dark software factories!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://warhammer40000.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Warhammer 40,000</a>: “In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.”<br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_Aren%27t_Real" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Birds Aren’t Real</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/13/0115243/robot-birds-deployed-by-park-to-attract-real-birds---built-by-high-school-students" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Robot Birds Deployed by Park to Attract Real Birds - Built By High School Students</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.cloudflare.com/markdown-for-agents/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Introducing Markdown for Agents</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Counterpoint: <a href="https://bgslabs.org/blog/why-are-we-using-markdown/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Why the heck are we still using Markdown??</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/JuliusBrussee/caveman" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">caveman</a>: why use many token when few do trick<br></li>
<li>See also: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Chinese" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Classical Chinese</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Dark Software Factories<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDcgHzCBgmQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The 5 Levels of AI Coding (Why Most of You Won't Make It Past Level 2)</a> by Nate B. Jones<br></li>
<li>StrongDM Software Factory: <a href="https://factory.strongdm.ai/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Software Factories And The Agentic Moment</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.danshapiro.com/blog/2026/01/the-five-levels-from-spicy-autocomplete-to-the-software-factory/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Five Levels: from Spicy Autocomplete to the Dark Factory</a> by Dan Shapiro<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/208564/freedoms-forge-by-arthur-herman/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Freedom’s Forge</a> by Arthur Herman<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXgkQ3nYeE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I Watched 3 Companies Lay Off Their Managers. All 3 Hit the Same Wall.</a> by Nate B. Jones</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://editor.p5js.org/isohedral/full/vJa5RiZWs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Interactive XKCD Dependency comic</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/19/A-Unique-Property-For-Sale-In-Pennsylvania/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Unique Property For Sale In Pennsylvania</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/16/Luxurious-Home-in-a-Decommissioned-Grain-Elevator/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Luxurious Home in a Decommissioned Grain Elevator</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 228: This Email Could Have Been an AI Avatar</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 05:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about the weaponization of your voice, the weaponization of deepfakes, and the weaponization of the future of air travel</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>40:59</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about the weaponization of your voice, the weaponization of deepfakes, and the weaponization of the future of air travel&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/ipad-mini/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;iPad Mini&lt;/a&gt; remains excellent&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Leaf blower paradox of choice&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://interestingengineering.com/a-new-navy-weapon-actually-stops-you-from-talking" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A New Navy Weapon Actually Stops You From Talking&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.wired.com/story/deepfakes-making-business-pitches/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Deepfakes Are Now Making Business Pitches&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/08/27/1033879/people-hiring-faces-work-deepfake-ai-marketing-clones/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;People are hiring out their faces to become deepfake-style marketing clones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.marshallhaas.com/post/how-i-sent-over-10-000-personal-thank-you-videos-to-my-customers-in-2-months" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;How I Sent Over 10,000 Personal Thank You Videos To My Customers in 2 Months&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.windsor.io/#video" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Watch video here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/don-t-duct-tape-unruly-passengers-united-airlines-says-memo-n1277065" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Don't duct tape unruly passengers, United Airlines says in memo to employees&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/reclining-airline-seats-fights-ownership-rules-disney-fastpass.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Fierce Legal Battle at the Heart of the Fight Over Reclining Airline Seats&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;99pi: &lt;a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/mine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mine!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://gizmodo.com/whats-the-future-of-air-travel-1847653493" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;What's the Future of Air Travel?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://archive.org/details/attentionkmartshoppers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Attention K-Mart Shoppers&lt;/a&gt;: K-Mart in-store music from the late 80s and early 90s&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://jazzkeys.plan8.co/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;JazzKeys&lt;/a&gt;: Improv jazz while you type&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNINWMqxQQc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Distortion pedal on a harp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxtYKhH11bs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Placebo Pedal on a harp&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.daredevilpedals.com/shop-1/p/placebo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Placebo Pedal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>iPad, iPad Mini, leaf blowers, US Navy, Navy, non-lethal weapons, acoustic hailing and disruption, AHAD, deepfakes, email, meetings, gig economy, licensing, marketing, sales, airlines, air travel, duct tape, reclining seats, ownership, Mine, K-Mart, jazz, JazzKeys, distortion pedals, harps, Placebo Pedal</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about the weaponization of your voice, the weaponization of deepfakes, and the weaponization of the future of air travel</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.apple.com/ipad-mini/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iPad Mini</a> remains excellent</li>
<li>Leaf blower paradox of choice</li>
<li><a href="https://interestingengineering.com/a-new-navy-weapon-actually-stops-you-from-talking" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A New Navy Weapon Actually Stops You From Talking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/deepfakes-making-business-pitches/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Deepfakes Are Now Making Business Pitches</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/08/27/1033879/people-hiring-faces-work-deepfake-ai-marketing-clones/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">People are hiring out their faces to become deepfake-style marketing clones</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marshallhaas.com/post/how-i-sent-over-10-000-personal-thank-you-videos-to-my-customers-in-2-months" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How I Sent Over 10,000 Personal Thank You Videos To My Customers in 2 Months</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.windsor.io/#video" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Watch video here</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/don-t-duct-tape-unruly-passengers-united-airlines-says-memo-n1277065" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Don't duct tape unruly passengers, United Airlines says in memo to employees</a></li>
<li><a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/reclining-airline-seats-fights-ownership-rules-disney-fastpass.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Fierce Legal Battle at the Heart of the Fight Over Reclining Airline Seats</a></li>
<li>99pi: <a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/mine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mine!</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/whats-the-future-of-air-travel-1847653493" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What's the Future of Air Travel?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://archive.org/details/attentionkmartshoppers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Attention K-Mart Shoppers</a>: K-Mart in-store music from the late 80s and early 90s</li>
<li><a href="https://jazzkeys.plan8.co/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">JazzKeys</a>: Improv jazz while you type</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNINWMqxQQc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Distortion pedal on a harp</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxtYKhH11bs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Placebo Pedal on a harp</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.daredevilpedals.com/shop-1/p/placebo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Placebo Pedal</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about the weaponization of your voice, the weaponization of deepfakes, and the weaponization of the future of air travel</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.apple.com/ipad-mini/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iPad Mini</a> remains excellent</li>
<li>Leaf blower paradox of choice</li>
<li><a href="https://interestingengineering.com/a-new-navy-weapon-actually-stops-you-from-talking" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A New Navy Weapon Actually Stops You From Talking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/deepfakes-making-business-pitches/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Deepfakes Are Now Making Business Pitches</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/08/27/1033879/people-hiring-faces-work-deepfake-ai-marketing-clones/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">People are hiring out their faces to become deepfake-style marketing clones</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marshallhaas.com/post/how-i-sent-over-10-000-personal-thank-you-videos-to-my-customers-in-2-months" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How I Sent Over 10,000 Personal Thank You Videos To My Customers in 2 Months</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.windsor.io/#video" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Watch video here</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/don-t-duct-tape-unruly-passengers-united-airlines-says-memo-n1277065" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Don't duct tape unruly passengers, United Airlines says in memo to employees</a></li>
<li><a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/reclining-airline-seats-fights-ownership-rules-disney-fastpass.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Fierce Legal Battle at the Heart of the Fight Over Reclining Airline Seats</a></li>
<li>99pi: <a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/mine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mine!</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gizmodo.com/whats-the-future-of-air-travel-1847653493" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What's the Future of Air Travel?</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://archive.org/details/attentionkmartshoppers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Attention K-Mart Shoppers</a>: K-Mart in-store music from the late 80s and early 90s</li>
<li><a href="https://jazzkeys.plan8.co/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">JazzKeys</a>: Improv jazz while you type</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNINWMqxQQc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Distortion pedal on a harp</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxtYKhH11bs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Placebo Pedal on a harp</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.daredevilpedals.com/shop-1/p/placebo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Placebo Pedal</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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