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    <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
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  <title>Episode 270: Cylon Monkey Paw: 5 AI Predictions for 2025 &amp; How to Build Intelligent Agents</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Dave visits Carolyn Ford on the Tech Transforms podcast to talk about all things agentic AI!</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/cford" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Carolyn Ford&lt;/a&gt; welcomes back Dave Egts, Field CTO at MuleSoft, to &lt;a href="https://techtransforms.fireside.fm/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Tech Transforms&lt;/a&gt; to explore the transformative power of AI in 2025. They dive into Dave’s top five AI predictions, with a special focus on the rise of agentic AI—AI that doesn’t just suggest, but acts. Dave explains the difference between generative AI and intelligent agents, why integration via APIs is the key to agent success, and how government agencies can prepare now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Listeners will learn:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What “large action models” (LAMs) are, and how they differ from large language models&lt;br&gt;
How AI agents are already reducing friction in Salesforce and Slack&lt;br&gt;
Why AI success depends on access to high-quality, actionable data&lt;br&gt;
What’s driving the shift toward small language models and what that means for secure, on-device AI&lt;br&gt;
Why “agent-washing” is the new “AI-washing”—and how to spot it&lt;br&gt;
What makes a truly impactful agent vs. a glorified chatbot&lt;br&gt;
Dave’s favorite sci-fi robot, a monkey’s paw superpower wish, and what tech breakthrough he thinks is coming next&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Key Topics:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[00:00] Intro &amp;amp; Dave’s blog: “5 AI Predictions for 2025”&lt;br&gt;
[03:00] What’s an AI agent? Why they’re different from GenAI&lt;br&gt;
[07:30] Real-world examples from Salesforce: Agentforce in action&lt;br&gt;
[14:00] The importance of APIs for agent success&lt;br&gt;
[15:45] Government use cases &amp;amp; security considerations&lt;br&gt;
[18:00] Internal AI agents that reduce toil (meeting schedulers, IT help, expense reports)&lt;br&gt;
[22:00] Cylon references &amp;amp; the power of digital labor in public sector&lt;br&gt;
[29:00] Small Language Models: Why smaller might be better&lt;br&gt;
[36:00] LLM Routers explained&lt;br&gt;
[38:00] Fun Tech Talk Q&amp;amp;A (Superpowers, overhyped trends, sci-fi names)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Resources Mentioned:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;📖 &lt;a href="https://blogs.mulesoft.com/digital-transformation/ai-predictions/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave's Blog: 5 AI Predictions for 2025: Opportunities Tech Leaders Must Seize This Year&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
💡 &lt;a href="https://trailhead.salesforce.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Trailhead Learning Platform from Salesforce: Learn to build your own agent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
🤖 &lt;a href="https://help.salesforce.com/s/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Help.Salesforce.com – Try Agentforce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
📺 &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Forbidden Planet (Robby the Robot)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
🐒 &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey%27s_Paw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Monkey’s Paw story reference&lt;/a&gt; Special Guest: Carolyn Ford.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/cford" rel="nofollow">Carolyn Ford</a> welcomes back Dave Egts, Field CTO at MuleSoft, to <a href="https://techtransforms.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">Tech Transforms</a> to explore the transformative power of AI in 2025. They dive into Dave’s top five AI predictions, with a special focus on the rise of agentic AI—AI that doesn’t just suggest, but acts. Dave explains the difference between generative AI and intelligent agents, why integration via APIs is the key to agent success, and how government agencies can prepare now.</p>

<p>Listeners will learn:</p>

<p>What “large action models” (LAMs) are, and how they differ from large language models<br>
How AI agents are already reducing friction in Salesforce and Slack<br>
Why AI success depends on access to high-quality, actionable data<br>
What’s driving the shift toward small language models and what that means for secure, on-device AI<br>
Why “agent-washing” is the new “AI-washing”—and how to spot it<br>
What makes a truly impactful agent vs. a glorified chatbot<br>
Dave’s favorite sci-fi robot, a monkey’s paw superpower wish, and what tech breakthrough he thinks is coming next</p>

<p>Key Topics:</p>

<p>[00:00] Intro &amp; Dave’s blog: “5 AI Predictions for 2025”<br>
[03:00] What’s an AI agent? Why they’re different from GenAI<br>
[07:30] Real-world examples from Salesforce: Agentforce in action<br>
[14:00] The importance of APIs for agent success<br>
[15:45] Government use cases &amp; security considerations<br>
[18:00] Internal AI agents that reduce toil (meeting schedulers, IT help, expense reports)<br>
[22:00] Cylon references &amp; the power of digital labor in public sector<br>
[29:00] Small Language Models: Why smaller might be better<br>
[36:00] LLM Routers explained<br>
[38:00] Fun Tech Talk Q&amp;A (Superpowers, overhyped trends, sci-fi names)</p>

<p>Resources Mentioned:</p>

<p>📖 <a href="https://blogs.mulesoft.com/digital-transformation/ai-predictions/" rel="nofollow">Dave&#39;s Blog: 5 AI Predictions for 2025: Opportunities Tech Leaders Must Seize This Year</a><br>
💡 <a href="https://trailhead.salesforce.com/" rel="nofollow">Trailhead Learning Platform from Salesforce: Learn to build your own agent</a><br>
🤖 <a href="https://help.salesforce.com/s/" rel="nofollow">Help.Salesforce.com – Try Agentforce</a><br>
📺 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet" rel="nofollow">Forbidden Planet (Robby the Robot)</a><br>
🐒 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey%27s_Paw" rel="nofollow">Monkey’s Paw story reference</a></p><p>Special Guest: Carolyn Ford.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/cford" rel="nofollow">Carolyn Ford</a> welcomes back Dave Egts, Field CTO at MuleSoft, to <a href="https://techtransforms.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">Tech Transforms</a> to explore the transformative power of AI in 2025. They dive into Dave’s top five AI predictions, with a special focus on the rise of agentic AI—AI that doesn’t just suggest, but acts. Dave explains the difference between generative AI and intelligent agents, why integration via APIs is the key to agent success, and how government agencies can prepare now.</p>

<p>Listeners will learn:</p>

<p>What “large action models” (LAMs) are, and how they differ from large language models<br>
How AI agents are already reducing friction in Salesforce and Slack<br>
Why AI success depends on access to high-quality, actionable data<br>
What’s driving the shift toward small language models and what that means for secure, on-device AI<br>
Why “agent-washing” is the new “AI-washing”—and how to spot it<br>
What makes a truly impactful agent vs. a glorified chatbot<br>
Dave’s favorite sci-fi robot, a monkey’s paw superpower wish, and what tech breakthrough he thinks is coming next</p>

<p>Key Topics:</p>

<p>[00:00] Intro &amp; Dave’s blog: “5 AI Predictions for 2025”<br>
[03:00] What’s an AI agent? Why they’re different from GenAI<br>
[07:30] Real-world examples from Salesforce: Agentforce in action<br>
[14:00] The importance of APIs for agent success<br>
[15:45] Government use cases &amp; security considerations<br>
[18:00] Internal AI agents that reduce toil (meeting schedulers, IT help, expense reports)<br>
[22:00] Cylon references &amp; the power of digital labor in public sector<br>
[29:00] Small Language Models: Why smaller might be better<br>
[36:00] LLM Routers explained<br>
[38:00] Fun Tech Talk Q&amp;A (Superpowers, overhyped trends, sci-fi names)</p>

<p>Resources Mentioned:</p>

<p>📖 <a href="https://blogs.mulesoft.com/digital-transformation/ai-predictions/" rel="nofollow">Dave&#39;s Blog: 5 AI Predictions for 2025: Opportunities Tech Leaders Must Seize This Year</a><br>
💡 <a href="https://trailhead.salesforce.com/" rel="nofollow">Trailhead Learning Platform from Salesforce: Learn to build your own agent</a><br>
🤖 <a href="https://help.salesforce.com/s/" rel="nofollow">Help.Salesforce.com – Try Agentforce</a><br>
📺 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet" rel="nofollow">Forbidden Planet (Robby the Robot)</a><br>
🐒 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey%27s_Paw" rel="nofollow">Monkey’s Paw story reference</a></p><p>Special Guest: Carolyn Ford.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 258: Terminator Contortionists</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about audible trackers, coworker avatars, and local deals on slightly used toenail clippers!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>43:42</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about audible trackers, coworker avatars, and local deals on slightly used toenail clippers!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave recommends: Hawaii! &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy%27s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Zippy’s&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_musubi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Spam musubi&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gunnar recommends: Japan! Tokyo! Kyoto! &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaque" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Macaque monkeys&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara_Park#Deer" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Nara Park deer&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Translate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Google Translate&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://axbom.com/the-creepy-sound-of-online-trackers/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The creepy sound of online trackers&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Check the videos &lt;a href="https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/tracker-beeper/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.wired.com/story/taking-baby-steps-toward-the-ai-meeting-singularity/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A Wave of AI Tools Is Set to Transform Work Meetings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/28/ai_bots_hallucinate_software_packages/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;AI hallucinates software packages and devs download them – even if potentially poisoned with malware&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tfc.texas.gov/divisions/supportserv/prog/statesurplus/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Texas Facilities Commission State Surplus Property Store&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.wired.com/story/slack-huddle-hold-music-secret-history/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Why Is the Slack Hold Music So Haunted and So Good?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBc2VTmneIE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;60-minute loop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I Hope This Email Finds You (&lt;a href="https://botsin.space/@thisemailfindsyou" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;part 1&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@thisemailfindsyou" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;part 2&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/boston-dynamics-debuts-humanoid-robot-destined-for-commercialization/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Boston Dynamics’ new humanoid moves like no robot you’ve ever seen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about audible trackers, coworker avatars, and local deals on slightly used toenail clippers!</p>

<ul>
<li>Dave recommends: Hawaii! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy%27s" rel="nofollow">Zippy’s</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_musubi" rel="nofollow">Spam musubi</a>!</li>
<li>Gunnar recommends: Japan! Tokyo! Kyoto! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaque" rel="nofollow">Macaque monkeys</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara_Park#Deer" rel="nofollow">Nara Park deer</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Translate" rel="nofollow">Google Translate</a>!</li>
<li><a href="https://axbom.com/the-creepy-sound-of-online-trackers/" rel="nofollow">The creepy sound of online trackers</a>

<ul>
<li>Check the videos <a href="https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/tracker-beeper/" rel="nofollow">here</a>!</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/taking-baby-steps-toward-the-ai-meeting-singularity/" rel="nofollow">A Wave of AI Tools Is Set to Transform Work Meetings</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/28/ai_bots_hallucinate_software_packages/" rel="nofollow">AI hallucinates software packages and devs download them – even if potentially poisoned with malware</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tfc.texas.gov/divisions/supportserv/prog/statesurplus/" rel="nofollow">Texas Facilities Commission State Surplus Property Store</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/slack-huddle-hold-music-secret-history/" rel="nofollow">Why Is the Slack Hold Music So Haunted and So Good?</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBc2VTmneIE" rel="nofollow">60-minute loop</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>I Hope This Email Finds You (<a href="https://botsin.space/@thisemailfindsyou" rel="nofollow">part 1</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@thisemailfindsyou" rel="nofollow">part 2</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/boston-dynamics-debuts-humanoid-robot-destined-for-commercialization/" rel="nofollow">Boston Dynamics’ new humanoid moves like no robot you’ve ever seen</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about audible trackers, coworker avatars, and local deals on slightly used toenail clippers!</p>

<ul>
<li>Dave recommends: Hawaii! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy%27s" rel="nofollow">Zippy’s</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_musubi" rel="nofollow">Spam musubi</a>!</li>
<li>Gunnar recommends: Japan! Tokyo! Kyoto! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaque" rel="nofollow">Macaque monkeys</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara_Park#Deer" rel="nofollow">Nara Park deer</a>! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Translate" rel="nofollow">Google Translate</a>!</li>
<li><a href="https://axbom.com/the-creepy-sound-of-online-trackers/" rel="nofollow">The creepy sound of online trackers</a>

<ul>
<li>Check the videos <a href="https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/tracker-beeper/" rel="nofollow">here</a>!</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/taking-baby-steps-toward-the-ai-meeting-singularity/" rel="nofollow">A Wave of AI Tools Is Set to Transform Work Meetings</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/28/ai_bots_hallucinate_software_packages/" rel="nofollow">AI hallucinates software packages and devs download them – even if potentially poisoned with malware</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tfc.texas.gov/divisions/supportserv/prog/statesurplus/" rel="nofollow">Texas Facilities Commission State Surplus Property Store</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/slack-huddle-hold-music-secret-history/" rel="nofollow">Why Is the Slack Hold Music So Haunted and So Good?</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBc2VTmneIE" rel="nofollow">60-minute loop</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>I Hope This Email Finds You (<a href="https://botsin.space/@thisemailfindsyou" rel="nofollow">part 1</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@thisemailfindsyou" rel="nofollow">part 2</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/boston-dynamics-debuts-humanoid-robot-destined-for-commercialization/" rel="nofollow">Boston Dynamics’ new humanoid moves like no robot you’ve ever seen</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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  <title>Episode 250: Our Favorite Things</title>
  <link>https://dgshow.org/250</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about their favorite things!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>42:01</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about their favorite things!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.grammarly.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Grammarly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://getpocket.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Pocket&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://feedly.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Feedly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.blogtrottr.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Blogtrottr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://slack.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.rememberthemilk.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Remember the Milk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.todoist.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Todoist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://getdrafts.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Drafts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://dayoneapp.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;DayOne&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://1password.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;1Password&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bitwarden.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bitwarden&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ublockorigin.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;uBlock Origin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/igrigorik/videospeed" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Video Speed Controller&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-ax1800/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GL.iNet Flint (GL-AX1800)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.google.com/chromebook/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Chromebooks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.thermoworks.com/shop/products/thermapens/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Thermoworks Thermapens&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.radpowerbikes.com/collections/radrunner-electric-utility-bikes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Radbike Radrunner 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/models.php?product=39&amp;amp;action=productPage" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Yamaha MT/FZ-09&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anything from &lt;a href="https://www.tombihn.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Tom Bihn&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Raspberry Pi 5&lt;/a&gt; (coming soon!)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://scratch.mit.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Scratch&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/3217710/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Great Guinea Pig Escape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://upperstory.com/turingtumble/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Turing Tumble&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://upperstory.com/spintronics/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Spintronics&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolyn-ford2020/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Carolyn Ford&lt;/a&gt; for the topic idea and being a D&amp;amp;G superfan!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G audience for spending your time with us through the years! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>Grammarly, Pocket, Feedly, Blogtrottr, Slack, Remember the Milk, Todoist, Drafts, DayOne, 1Password, Bitwarden, uBlock Origin, Video Speed Controller, GL.iNet, Flint, Chromebooks, Thermoworks, Thermapens, Radbike, Radrunner, Yamaha, FZ-09, MT-09, Tom Bihn, Raspberry Pi, Raspberry Pi 5, Scratch, The Great Guinea Pig Escape, Lauren Egts, Turing Tumble, Spintronics</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about their favorite things!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.grammarly.com/" rel="nofollow">Grammarly</a></li>
<li><a href="https://getpocket.com/" rel="nofollow">Pocket</a></li>
<li><a href="https://feedly.com/" rel="nofollow">Feedly</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.blogtrottr.com/" rel="nofollow">Blogtrottr</a></li>
<li><a href="https://slack.com/" rel="nofollow">Slack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rememberthemilk.com/" rel="nofollow">Remember the Milk</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.todoist.com/" rel="nofollow">Todoist</a></li>
<li><a href="https://getdrafts.com/" rel="nofollow">Drafts</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dayoneapp.com/" rel="nofollow">DayOne</a></li>
<li><a href="https://1password.com/" rel="nofollow">1Password</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bitwarden.com/" rel="nofollow">Bitwarden</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ublockorigin.com/" rel="nofollow">uBlock Origin</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/igrigorik/videospeed" rel="nofollow">Video Speed Controller</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-ax1800/" rel="nofollow">GL.iNet Flint (GL-AX1800)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/chromebook/" rel="nofollow">Chromebooks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thermoworks.com/shop/products/thermapens/" rel="nofollow">Thermoworks Thermapens</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.radpowerbikes.com/collections/radrunner-electric-utility-bikes" rel="nofollow">Radbike Radrunner 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/models.php?product=39&action=productPage" rel="nofollow">Yamaha MT/FZ-09</a></li>
<li>Anything from <a href="https://www.tombihn.com/" rel="nofollow">Tom Bihn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/" rel="nofollow">Raspberry Pi 5</a> (coming soon!)</li>
<li><a href="https://scratch.mit.edu/" rel="nofollow">Scratch</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/3217710/" rel="nofollow">The Great Guinea Pig Escape</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://upperstory.com/turingtumble/" rel="nofollow">Turing Tumble</a> and <a href="https://upperstory.com/spintronics/" rel="nofollow">Spintronics</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolyn-ford2020/" rel="nofollow">Carolyn Ford</a> for the topic idea and being a D&amp;G superfan!</li>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
<li>The D&amp;G audience for spending your time with us through the years!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about their favorite things!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.grammarly.com/" rel="nofollow">Grammarly</a></li>
<li><a href="https://getpocket.com/" rel="nofollow">Pocket</a></li>
<li><a href="https://feedly.com/" rel="nofollow">Feedly</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.blogtrottr.com/" rel="nofollow">Blogtrottr</a></li>
<li><a href="https://slack.com/" rel="nofollow">Slack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rememberthemilk.com/" rel="nofollow">Remember the Milk</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.todoist.com/" rel="nofollow">Todoist</a></li>
<li><a href="https://getdrafts.com/" rel="nofollow">Drafts</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dayoneapp.com/" rel="nofollow">DayOne</a></li>
<li><a href="https://1password.com/" rel="nofollow">1Password</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bitwarden.com/" rel="nofollow">Bitwarden</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ublockorigin.com/" rel="nofollow">uBlock Origin</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/igrigorik/videospeed" rel="nofollow">Video Speed Controller</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-ax1800/" rel="nofollow">GL.iNet Flint (GL-AX1800)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/chromebook/" rel="nofollow">Chromebooks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thermoworks.com/shop/products/thermapens/" rel="nofollow">Thermoworks Thermapens</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.radpowerbikes.com/collections/radrunner-electric-utility-bikes" rel="nofollow">Radbike Radrunner 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/models.php?product=39&action=productPage" rel="nofollow">Yamaha MT/FZ-09</a></li>
<li>Anything from <a href="https://www.tombihn.com/" rel="nofollow">Tom Bihn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/" rel="nofollow">Raspberry Pi 5</a> (coming soon!)</li>
<li><a href="https://scratch.mit.edu/" rel="nofollow">Scratch</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/3217710/" rel="nofollow">The Great Guinea Pig Escape</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://upperstory.com/turingtumble/" rel="nofollow">Turing Tumble</a> and <a href="https://upperstory.com/spintronics/" rel="nofollow">Spintronics</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolyn-ford2020/" rel="nofollow">Carolyn Ford</a> for the topic idea and being a D&amp;G superfan!</li>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
<li>The D&amp;G audience for spending your time with us through the years!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 183: Failure Is an Option</title>
  <link>https://dgshow.org/183</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2019 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about failing with public relations, failing with smart TVs, failing with zip files, and failing with collaboration tools</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>25:56</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about failing with public relations, failing with smart TVs, failing with zip files, and failing with collaboration tools&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="http://www.austintexas.gov/department/emma-long-metropolitan-park" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Emma Long Metropolitan Park&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43jmnq/how-amazon-and-the-cops-set-up-elaborate-sting-operation-that-accomplished-nothing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;How Amazon and the Cops Set Up an Elaborate Sting Operation That Accomplished Nothing&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/06/samsung-please-virus-scan-your-tv/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Samsung asks users to please virus-scan their TVs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.bamsoftware.com/hacks/zipbomb/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A better zip bomb&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/11/microsoft-says-its-slack-competitor-teams-now-has-13-million-daily-active-users/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Microsoft says Teams now has 13M daily active users&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/07/families-slack-asana/593584/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Slackification of the American Home&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://blog.hackster.io/mining-bitcoin-on-the-apollo-guidance-computer-62691628514" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mining Bitcoin on the Apollo Guidance Computer&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.jaredisgray.com/tinker-gnome-cpap-facehugger/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;CPAP Facehugger&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>public relations, Emma Long Metropolitan Park, Amazon, Ring, Samsung, antivirus, zip bomb, Microsoft Teams, Slack, Slackification, Bitcoin, Apollo, CPAP, facehugger</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about failing with public relations, failing with smart TVs, failing with zip files, and failing with collaboration tools</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="http://www.austintexas.gov/department/emma-long-metropolitan-park" rel="nofollow">Emma Long Metropolitan Park</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43jmnq/how-amazon-and-the-cops-set-up-elaborate-sting-operation-that-accomplished-nothing" rel="nofollow">How Amazon and the Cops Set Up an Elaborate Sting Operation That Accomplished Nothing</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/06/samsung-please-virus-scan-your-tv/" rel="nofollow">Samsung asks users to please virus-scan their TVs</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.bamsoftware.com/hacks/zipbomb/" rel="nofollow">A better zip bomb</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/11/microsoft-says-its-slack-competitor-teams-now-has-13-million-daily-active-users/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft says Teams now has 13M daily active users</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/07/families-slack-asana/593584/" rel="nofollow">The Slackification of the American Home</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://blog.hackster.io/mining-bitcoin-on-the-apollo-guidance-computer-62691628514" rel="nofollow">Mining Bitcoin on the Apollo Guidance Computer</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.jaredisgray.com/tinker-gnome-cpap-facehugger/" rel="nofollow">CPAP Facehugger</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about failing with public relations, failing with smart TVs, failing with zip files, and failing with collaboration tools</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="http://www.austintexas.gov/department/emma-long-metropolitan-park" rel="nofollow">Emma Long Metropolitan Park</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43jmnq/how-amazon-and-the-cops-set-up-elaborate-sting-operation-that-accomplished-nothing" rel="nofollow">How Amazon and the Cops Set Up an Elaborate Sting Operation That Accomplished Nothing</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/06/samsung-please-virus-scan-your-tv/" rel="nofollow">Samsung asks users to please virus-scan their TVs</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.bamsoftware.com/hacks/zipbomb/" rel="nofollow">A better zip bomb</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/11/microsoft-says-its-slack-competitor-teams-now-has-13-million-daily-active-users/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft says Teams now has 13M daily active users</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/07/families-slack-asana/593584/" rel="nofollow">The Slackification of the American Home</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://blog.hackster.io/mining-bitcoin-on-the-apollo-guidance-computer-62691628514" rel="nofollow">Mining Bitcoin on the Apollo Guidance Computer</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.jaredisgray.com/tinker-gnome-cpap-facehugger/" rel="nofollow">CPAP Facehugger</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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