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  <title>Episode 278: I Know How the Butlerian Jihad Works</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about weaponized AI and seemingly conscious AI!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Virtual Customer Panels with &lt;a href="https://gemini.google/overview/gems/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gemini Gems&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave vs. &lt;a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ticketmaster&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Totally unrelated: &lt;a href="https://theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that-will-put-her-en-1819572981/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Cool Dad Raising Daughter On Media That Will Put Her Entirely Out Of Touch With Her Generation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://blog.trailofbits.com/2025/08/21/weaponizing-image-scaling-against-production-ai-systems/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Weaponizing image scaling against production AI systems&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.engadget.com/ai/anthropics-claude-stocked-a-fridge-with-metal-cubes-when-it-was-put-in-charge-of-a-snacks-business-162750304.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Anthropic's Claude stocked a fridge with metal cubes when it was put in charge of a snacks business&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seemingly Conscious AI (SCAI)&lt;br&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://mustafa-suleyman.ai/seemingly-conscious-ai-is-coming" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;We must build AI for people, not to be a person&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.wired.com/story/microsofts-ai-chief-says-machine-consciousness-is-an-illusion/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Microsoft’s AI Chief Says Machine Consciousness Is an ‘Illusion’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ohio-lawmaker-proposes-comprehensive-ban-on-marrying-ai-systems-and-granting-legal-personhood/ar-AA1OZhaG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ohio lawmaker proposes comprehensive ban on marrying AI systems and granting legal personhood&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://bogdanthegeek.github.io/blog/projects/vapeserver/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Hosting a WebSite on a Disposable Vape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/how-many-phones-sport-a-5-and-1-4-diskette-drive-this-one/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;How Many Phones Sport A 5 And 1/4 Diskette Drive? This One.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.hemmings.com/listing/1990-airstream-all-models-478166" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;1990 Airstream NASA 025 Command Vehicle. A Once-in-a-Lifetime Investment Opportunity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-Oq8iYtVA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Steamed Hams but it's a Critically Acclaimed Feature Film&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;See also:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVmw3ZhdzEs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Steamed Hams but it was banned in the USSR&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsof0cwFPY0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Steamed Hams but it's a German Expressionist Film&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY17_nraW68" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Steamed Hams but it's in Nazi Germany&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2_dhUv_CrI" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Simpsons - Worker and Parasite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/x9ze4c/possible_inspiration_for_worker_and_parasite/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Possible inspiration for Worker and Parasite?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about weaponized AI and seemingly conscious AI!</p>

<ul>
<li>Virtual Customer Panels with <a href="https://gemini.google/overview/gems/" rel="nofollow">Gemini Gems</a><br></li>
<li>Dave vs. <a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/" rel="nofollow">Ticketmaster</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Totally unrelated: <a href="https://theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that-will-put-her-en-1819572981/" rel="nofollow">Cool Dad Raising Daughter On Media That Will Put Her Entirely Out Of Touch With Her Generation</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.trailofbits.com/2025/08/21/weaponizing-image-scaling-against-production-ai-systems/" rel="nofollow">Weaponizing image scaling against production AI systems</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.engadget.com/ai/anthropics-claude-stocked-a-fridge-with-metal-cubes-when-it-was-put-in-charge-of-a-snacks-business-162750304.html" rel="nofollow">Anthropic&#39;s Claude stocked a fridge with metal cubes when it was put in charge of a snacks business</a><br></li>
<li>Seemingly Conscious AI (SCAI)<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://mustafa-suleyman.ai/seemingly-conscious-ai-is-coming" rel="nofollow">We must build AI for people, not to be a person</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/microsofts-ai-chief-says-machine-consciousness-is-an-illusion/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft’s AI Chief Says Machine Consciousness Is an ‘Illusion’</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ohio-lawmaker-proposes-comprehensive-ban-on-marrying-ai-systems-and-granting-legal-personhood/ar-AA1OZhaG" rel="nofollow">Ohio lawmaker proposes comprehensive ban on marrying AI systems and granting legal personhood</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://bogdanthegeek.github.io/blog/projects/vapeserver/" rel="nofollow">Hosting a WebSite on a Disposable Vape</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/how-many-phones-sport-a-5-and-1-4-diskette-drive-this-one/" rel="nofollow">How Many Phones Sport A 5 And 1/4 Diskette Drive? This One.</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hemmings.com/listing/1990-airstream-all-models-478166" rel="nofollow">1990 Airstream NASA 025 Command Vehicle. A Once-in-a-Lifetime Investment Opportunity</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-Oq8iYtVA" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s a Critically Acclaimed Feature Film</a><br>

<ul>
<li>See also:<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVmw3ZhdzEs" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it was banned in the USSR</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsof0cwFPY0" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s a German Expressionist Film</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY17_nraW68" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s in Nazi Germany</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2_dhUv_CrI" rel="nofollow">The Simpsons - Worker and Parasite</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/x9ze4c/possible_inspiration_for_worker_and_parasite/" rel="nofollow">Possible inspiration for Worker and Parasite?</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about weaponized AI and seemingly conscious AI!</p>

<ul>
<li>Virtual Customer Panels with <a href="https://gemini.google/overview/gems/" rel="nofollow">Gemini Gems</a><br></li>
<li>Dave vs. <a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/" rel="nofollow">Ticketmaster</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Totally unrelated: <a href="https://theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that-will-put-her-en-1819572981/" rel="nofollow">Cool Dad Raising Daughter On Media That Will Put Her Entirely Out Of Touch With Her Generation</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.trailofbits.com/2025/08/21/weaponizing-image-scaling-against-production-ai-systems/" rel="nofollow">Weaponizing image scaling against production AI systems</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.engadget.com/ai/anthropics-claude-stocked-a-fridge-with-metal-cubes-when-it-was-put-in-charge-of-a-snacks-business-162750304.html" rel="nofollow">Anthropic&#39;s Claude stocked a fridge with metal cubes when it was put in charge of a snacks business</a><br></li>
<li>Seemingly Conscious AI (SCAI)<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://mustafa-suleyman.ai/seemingly-conscious-ai-is-coming" rel="nofollow">We must build AI for people, not to be a person</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/microsofts-ai-chief-says-machine-consciousness-is-an-illusion/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft’s AI Chief Says Machine Consciousness Is an ‘Illusion’</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ohio-lawmaker-proposes-comprehensive-ban-on-marrying-ai-systems-and-granting-legal-personhood/ar-AA1OZhaG" rel="nofollow">Ohio lawmaker proposes comprehensive ban on marrying AI systems and granting legal personhood</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://bogdanthegeek.github.io/blog/projects/vapeserver/" rel="nofollow">Hosting a WebSite on a Disposable Vape</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/09/27/how-many-phones-sport-a-5-and-1-4-diskette-drive-this-one/" rel="nofollow">How Many Phones Sport A 5 And 1/4 Diskette Drive? This One.</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hemmings.com/listing/1990-airstream-all-models-478166" rel="nofollow">1990 Airstream NASA 025 Command Vehicle. A Once-in-a-Lifetime Investment Opportunity</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-Oq8iYtVA" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s a Critically Acclaimed Feature Film</a><br>

<ul>
<li>See also:<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVmw3ZhdzEs" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it was banned in the USSR</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsof0cwFPY0" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s a German Expressionist Film</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY17_nraW68" rel="nofollow">Steamed Hams but it&#39;s in Nazi Germany</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2_dhUv_CrI" rel="nofollow">The Simpsons - Worker and Parasite</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/x9ze4c/possible_inspiration_for_worker_and_parasite/" rel="nofollow">Possible inspiration for Worker and Parasite?</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 252: Too Hip-Hop, Not Enough $15M Nikon Lithography Stepper</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2024 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about notetaking, IP taking, and great deals on used surveillance vans!</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about notetaking, IP taking, and great deals on used surveillance vans!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gunnar endorses:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/intro" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;DND Beyond&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.goodnotes.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Goodnotes&lt;/a&gt; and the virtues of the pen&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave endorses:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Scribe-the-first-Kindle-for-reading-writing-journaling-and-sketching/dp/B09BS26B8B" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Kindle Scribe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77980762-julia" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Julia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;H/T Dwight Chamberlain: &lt;a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ben-marc-show/id1713388101" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Ben and Marc Show&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-china-tech-war-risc-v-chip-technology-emerges-new-battleground-2023-10-06/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://hardcoresoftware.learningbyshipping.com/p/211-regulating-ai-by-executive-order" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;211. Regulating AI by Executive Order is the Real AI Risk&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/20/podcasts/hard-fork-sam-altman-transcript.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Hardfork interview w/Sam Altman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;D&amp;amp;G This Week in There, I Fixed It: &lt;a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-now-lets-you-play-a-game-during-windows-11-installs/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Microsoft now lets you play a game during Windows 11 installs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/08/ex-nasa-surveillance-van-with-retractable-roof-cameras-goes-on-sale/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ex-NASA surveillance van with retractable roof cameras goes on sale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/09/20/1199192682/consumer-product-safety-commission-music-album" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A federal agency wants to give safety tips to young adults. So it's dropping an album&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.zerotoasiccourse.com/post/asic-necklace/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;ASIC Necklace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dwight Chamberlain for the podcast doppelgänger tipoff!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about notetaking, IP taking, and great deals on used surveillance vans!</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar endorses:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/intro" rel="nofollow">DND Beyond</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodnotes.com/" rel="nofollow">Goodnotes</a> and the virtues of the pen</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Dave endorses:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Scribe-the-first-Kindle-for-reading-writing-journaling-and-sketching/dp/B09BS26B8B" rel="nofollow">Kindle Scribe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77980762-julia" rel="nofollow">Julia</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>H/T Dwight Chamberlain: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ben-marc-show/id1713388101" rel="nofollow">The Ben and Marc Show</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-china-tech-war-risc-v-chip-technology-emerges-new-battleground-2023-10-06/" rel="nofollow">RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hardcoresoftware.learningbyshipping.com/p/211-regulating-ai-by-executive-order" rel="nofollow">211. Regulating AI by Executive Order is the Real AI Risk</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/20/podcasts/hard-fork-sam-altman-transcript.html" rel="nofollow">Hardfork interview w/Sam Altman</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>D&amp;G This Week in There, I Fixed It: <a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-now-lets-you-play-a-game-during-windows-11-installs/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft now lets you play a game during Windows 11 installs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/08/ex-nasa-surveillance-van-with-retractable-roof-cameras-goes-on-sale/" rel="nofollow">Ex-NASA surveillance van with retractable roof cameras goes on sale</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/09/20/1199192682/consumer-product-safety-commission-music-album" rel="nofollow">A federal agency wants to give safety tips to young adults. So it&#39;s dropping an album</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.zerotoasiccourse.com/post/asic-necklace/" rel="nofollow">ASIC Necklace</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Dwight Chamberlain for the podcast doppelgänger tipoff!</li>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about notetaking, IP taking, and great deals on used surveillance vans!</p>

<ul>
<li>Gunnar endorses:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/intro" rel="nofollow">DND Beyond</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodnotes.com/" rel="nofollow">Goodnotes</a> and the virtues of the pen</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Dave endorses:

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Scribe-the-first-Kindle-for-reading-writing-journaling-and-sketching/dp/B09BS26B8B" rel="nofollow">Kindle Scribe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77980762-julia" rel="nofollow">Julia</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>H/T Dwight Chamberlain: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ben-marc-show/id1713388101" rel="nofollow">The Ben and Marc Show</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-china-tech-war-risc-v-chip-technology-emerges-new-battleground-2023-10-06/" rel="nofollow">RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hardcoresoftware.learningbyshipping.com/p/211-regulating-ai-by-executive-order" rel="nofollow">211. Regulating AI by Executive Order is the Real AI Risk</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/20/podcasts/hard-fork-sam-altman-transcript.html" rel="nofollow">Hardfork interview w/Sam Altman</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>D&amp;G This Week in There, I Fixed It: <a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-now-lets-you-play-a-game-during-windows-11-installs/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft now lets you play a game during Windows 11 installs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/08/ex-nasa-surveillance-van-with-retractable-roof-cameras-goes-on-sale/" rel="nofollow">Ex-NASA surveillance van with retractable roof cameras goes on sale</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/09/20/1199192682/consumer-product-safety-commission-music-album" rel="nofollow">A federal agency wants to give safety tips to young adults. So it&#39;s dropping an album</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.zerotoasiccourse.com/post/asic-necklace/" rel="nofollow">ASIC Necklace</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Dwight Chamberlain for the podcast doppelgänger tipoff!</li>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 226: Plowshares into Swords</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about appreciating our listeners, gassing bank robbers, wardriving smart meters!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>34:04</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about appreciating our listeners, gassing bank robbers, wardriving smart meters&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marriott &lt;a href="https://www.marriottvacationclub.com/mvcpulse/washington-dc.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;misses&lt;/a&gt; Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New &lt;a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/microsoft-ergonomic-keyboard/93841ngdwr1h" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/hogwarts-castle-71043" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Hogwarts Castle Lego&lt;/a&gt; is a journey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;D&amp;amp;G Viewer Mail

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Uzoma Nwosu&lt;/a&gt; rejoices&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Norm Joseph&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph/status/1426932057414975488" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;endorses&lt;/a&gt; Norms&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dr. David A. Wheeler&lt;/a&gt; says: “Podcast didn’t mention by name “&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_war" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Law(s) of War&lt;/a&gt;”, yet I think that’s what you meant”&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pyrotechnic-Aspyhxiation-Burglar Alarm, or P.A.B. Alarm: &lt;a href="https://gizmodo.com/this-anti-burglar-device-from-1923-was-inspired-by-horr-1846277539" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;This Anti-Burglar Device From 1923 Was Inspired by Horrific Gas Warfare of World War I&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;D&amp;amp;G AI Mr. Potato Head of the Week: &lt;a href="https://massless.io/tool/face-maker-ai/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Face Maker AI&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.dailydot.com/debug/hacker-smart-meter-texas-snowstorm/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Exclusive: Hacker reveals smart meters are spilling secrets about the Texas snowstorm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong-simulated-mars-mission" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;NASA is Recruiting for Yearlong Simulated Mars Mission&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Biosphere 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/13/spaceship-earth-arizona-biosphere-2-lockdown" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Eight go mad in Arizona: how a lockdown experiment went horribly wrong&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11394188/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Spaceship Earth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Steve Bannon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7eq3a/mcmansion-with-shocking-infrastructure-secret-can-be-yours-for-dollar989000" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;McMansion With Shocking Infrastructure Secret Can Be Yours for $989,000&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SOLD! &lt;a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nuclear-bunker-devon-sale-salcombe-b1809072.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Underground nuclear bunker with 56 bedrooms goes on sale for £435,000&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://hyperallergic.com/436010/triste-tropique-topographies-of-sadness-damien-rudd/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A Compendium of Places with Sad Names, from Despair Island to Mount Hopeless&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;See also: &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Uzoma Nwosu&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Norm Joseph&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dr. David A. Wheeler&lt;/a&gt; for the gift of feedback!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about appreciating our listeners, gassing bank robbers, wardriving smart meters</p>

<ul>
<li>Marriott <a href="https://www.marriottvacationclub.com/mvcpulse/washington-dc.html" rel="nofollow">misses</a> Dave</li>
<li>New <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/microsoft-ergonomic-keyboard/93841ngdwr1h" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/hogwarts-castle-71043" rel="nofollow">Hogwarts Castle Lego</a> is a journey</li>
<li>D&amp;G Viewer Mail

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" rel="nofollow">Uzoma Nwosu</a> rejoices</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" rel="nofollow">Norm Joseph</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph/status/1426932057414975488" rel="nofollow">endorses</a> Norms</li>
<li><a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" rel="nofollow">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> says: “Podcast didn’t mention by name “<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_war" rel="nofollow">Law(s) of War</a>”, yet I think that’s what you meant”</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Pyrotechnic-Aspyhxiation-Burglar Alarm, or P.A.B. Alarm: <a href="https://gizmodo.com/this-anti-burglar-device-from-1923-was-inspired-by-horr-1846277539" rel="nofollow">This Anti-Burglar Device From 1923 Was Inspired by Horrific Gas Warfare of World War I</a></li>
<li>D&amp;G AI Mr. Potato Head of the Week: <a href="https://massless.io/tool/face-maker-ai/" rel="nofollow">Face Maker AI</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dailydot.com/debug/hacker-smart-meter-texas-snowstorm/" rel="nofollow">Exclusive: Hacker reveals smart meters are spilling secrets about the Texas snowstorm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong-simulated-mars-mission" rel="nofollow">NASA is Recruiting for Yearlong Simulated Mars Mission</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2" rel="nofollow">Biosphere 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/13/spaceship-earth-arizona-biosphere-2-lockdown" rel="nofollow">Eight go mad in Arizona: how a lockdown experiment went horribly wrong</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11394188/" rel="nofollow">Spaceship Earth</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon" rel="nofollow">Steve Bannon</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7eq3a/mcmansion-with-shocking-infrastructure-secret-can-be-yours-for-dollar989000" rel="nofollow">McMansion With Shocking Infrastructure Secret Can Be Yours for $989,000</a></li>
<li>SOLD! <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nuclear-bunker-devon-sale-salcombe-b1809072.html" rel="nofollow">Underground nuclear bunker with 56 bedrooms goes on sale for £435,000</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hyperallergic.com/436010/triste-tropique-topographies-of-sadness-damien-rudd/" rel="nofollow">A Compendium of Places with Sad Names, from Despair Island to Mount Hopeless</a>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" rel="nofollow">Uzoma Nwosu</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" rel="nofollow">Norm Joseph</a>, and <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" rel="nofollow">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> for the gift of feedback!</li>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow">Gunnar</a> talk about appreciating our listeners, gassing bank robbers, wardriving smart meters</p>

<ul>
<li>Marriott <a href="https://www.marriottvacationclub.com/mvcpulse/washington-dc.html" rel="nofollow">misses</a> Dave</li>
<li>New <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/microsoft-ergonomic-keyboard/93841ngdwr1h" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/hogwarts-castle-71043" rel="nofollow">Hogwarts Castle Lego</a> is a journey</li>
<li>D&amp;G Viewer Mail

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" rel="nofollow">Uzoma Nwosu</a> rejoices</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" rel="nofollow">Norm Joseph</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph/status/1426932057414975488" rel="nofollow">endorses</a> Norms</li>
<li><a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" rel="nofollow">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> says: “Podcast didn’t mention by name “<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_war" rel="nofollow">Law(s) of War</a>”, yet I think that’s what you meant”</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Pyrotechnic-Aspyhxiation-Burglar Alarm, or P.A.B. Alarm: <a href="https://gizmodo.com/this-anti-burglar-device-from-1923-was-inspired-by-horr-1846277539" rel="nofollow">This Anti-Burglar Device From 1923 Was Inspired by Horrific Gas Warfare of World War I</a></li>
<li>D&amp;G AI Mr. Potato Head of the Week: <a href="https://massless.io/tool/face-maker-ai/" rel="nofollow">Face Maker AI</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dailydot.com/debug/hacker-smart-meter-texas-snowstorm/" rel="nofollow">Exclusive: Hacker reveals smart meters are spilling secrets about the Texas snowstorm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong-simulated-mars-mission" rel="nofollow">NASA is Recruiting for Yearlong Simulated Mars Mission</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2" rel="nofollow">Biosphere 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/13/spaceship-earth-arizona-biosphere-2-lockdown" rel="nofollow">Eight go mad in Arizona: how a lockdown experiment went horribly wrong</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11394188/" rel="nofollow">Spaceship Earth</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon" rel="nofollow">Steve Bannon</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7eq3a/mcmansion-with-shocking-infrastructure-secret-can-be-yours-for-dollar989000" rel="nofollow">McMansion With Shocking Infrastructure Secret Can Be Yours for $989,000</a></li>
<li>SOLD! <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nuclear-bunker-devon-sale-salcombe-b1809072.html" rel="nofollow">Underground nuclear bunker with 56 bedrooms goes on sale for £435,000</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hyperallergic.com/436010/triste-tropique-topographies-of-sadness-damien-rudd/" rel="nofollow">A Compendium of Places with Sad Names, from Despair Island to Mount Hopeless</a>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" rel="nofollow">Uzoma Nwosu</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" rel="nofollow">Norm Joseph</a>, and <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" rel="nofollow">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> for the gift of feedback!</li>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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