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    <title>Dave &amp; Gunnar Show - Episodes Tagged with “Reading”</title>
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    <description>David Egts and Gunnar Hellekson discuss privacy, security, robots, and internet ephemera.</description>
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    <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
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  <title>Episode 286: Work, Gyms, and Toxic Relationships</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week, Dave and Gunnar talk with Camille Tuutti about Swedish AI coffee shops and reanimating woolly mammoths!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>55:55</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk with &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/ctuutti" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Camille Tuutti&lt;/a&gt; about Swedish AI coffee shops and reanimating woolly mammoths!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nextgov.com/artificial-intelligence/2026/06/meet-mona-ai-who-runs-stockholm-coffee-shop/414319/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Meet Mona, the AI Who Runs a Stockholm Coffee Shop&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/ctuutti" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Camille Tuutti&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;By &lt;a href="https://andonlabs.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Andon Labs&lt;/a&gt; (see &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/278" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;D&amp;amp;G #278&lt;/a&gt;!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meanwhile: &lt;a href="https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/29/claude-opus-5-became-downright-ruthless-when-tasked-with-running-a-vending-machine/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Claude Opus 5 became downright ruthless when tasked with running a vending machine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemonade_Stand" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lemonade Stand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2026/07/should-you-use-ai-for-a-task-heres-a-simple-way-to-decide.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Should You Use AI for a Task? Here’s a Simple Way to Decide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/camilletuutti_neuroscience-ai-futureofwork-share-7473020661918068736-XO-f/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Camille asks Vivienne Ming about brain atrophy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXgkQ3nYeE" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;I Watched 3 Companies Lay Off Their Managers. All 3 Hit the Same Wall.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2026/07/29/college-instructor-catches-students-using-ai-midterm-viral/91091359007/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;College instructor goes viral for catching students' AI use on midterm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2026/07/ben-lamm-extinction-just-engineering-problem/414865/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;To Ben Lamm, extinction is just an engineering problem&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/ctuutti" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Camille Tuutti&lt;/a&gt; for being our special guest star! Special Guest: Camille Tuutti.&lt;/li&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>Andon Labs, Claude, Claudius, Anthropic, vending machines, coffee shops, Sweden, Stockholm, Mona, NextGov/FCW, Technofiles, cinnamon buns, Opus 5, GPT, Kimi, price fixing, Lemonade Stand, Jonathan Zittrain, toxic relationships, journalism, writing, editing, AI boyfriends, AI girlfriends, AI spouses, AI doctors, Bruce Schneier, Vivienne Ming, Socrates, critical thinking, college, Nate B. Jones, reading, Kindles, toga parties, Jurrasic Park, wolly mammoths, de-extinction, dire wolves, dinosaurs, Ben Lamm, gothic fiction, New Orleans, air taxis, CIA, declassified documents</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk with <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/ctuutti" rel="nofollow noopener">Camille Tuutti</a> about Swedish AI coffee shops and reanimating woolly mammoths!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.nextgov.com/artificial-intelligence/2026/06/meet-mona-ai-who-runs-stockholm-coffee-shop/414319/" rel="nofollow noopener">Meet Mona, the AI Who Runs a Stockholm Coffee Shop</a> by <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/ctuutti" rel="nofollow noopener">Camille Tuutti</a><br>

<ul>
<li>By <a href="https://andonlabs.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Andon Labs</a> (see <a href="https://dgshow.org/278" rel="nofollow noopener">D&amp;G #278</a>!)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Meanwhile: <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/29/claude-opus-5-became-downright-ruthless-when-tasked-with-running-a-vending-machine/" rel="nofollow noopener">Claude Opus 5 became downright ruthless when tasked with running a vending machine</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemonade_Stand" rel="nofollow noopener">Lemonade Stand</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2026/07/should-you-use-ai-for-a-task-heres-a-simple-way-to-decide.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Should You Use AI for a Task? Here’s a Simple Way to Decide</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/camilletuutti_neuroscience-ai-futureofwork-share-7473020661918068736-XO-f/" rel="nofollow noopener">Camille asks Vivienne Ming about brain atrophy</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXgkQ3nYeE" rel="nofollow noopener">I Watched 3 Companies Lay Off Their Managers. All 3 Hit the Same Wall.</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2026/07/29/college-instructor-catches-students-using-ai-midterm-viral/91091359007/" rel="nofollow noopener">College instructor goes viral for catching students' AI use on midterm</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2026/07/ben-lamm-extinction-just-engineering-problem/414865/" rel="nofollow noopener">To Ben Lamm, extinction is just an engineering problem</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/ctuutti" rel="nofollow noopener">Camille Tuutti</a> for being our special guest star!</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Camille Tuutti.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk with <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/ctuutti" rel="nofollow noopener">Camille Tuutti</a> about Swedish AI coffee shops and reanimating woolly mammoths!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.nextgov.com/artificial-intelligence/2026/06/meet-mona-ai-who-runs-stockholm-coffee-shop/414319/" rel="nofollow noopener">Meet Mona, the AI Who Runs a Stockholm Coffee Shop</a> by <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/ctuutti" rel="nofollow noopener">Camille Tuutti</a><br>

<ul>
<li>By <a href="https://andonlabs.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Andon Labs</a> (see <a href="https://dgshow.org/278" rel="nofollow noopener">D&amp;G #278</a>!)<br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Meanwhile: <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/29/claude-opus-5-became-downright-ruthless-when-tasked-with-running-a-vending-machine/" rel="nofollow noopener">Claude Opus 5 became downright ruthless when tasked with running a vending machine</a><br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemonade_Stand" rel="nofollow noopener">Lemonade Stand</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2026/07/should-you-use-ai-for-a-task-heres-a-simple-way-to-decide.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Should You Use AI for a Task? Here’s a Simple Way to Decide</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/camilletuutti_neuroscience-ai-futureofwork-share-7473020661918068736-XO-f/" rel="nofollow noopener">Camille asks Vivienne Ming about brain atrophy</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXgkQ3nYeE" rel="nofollow noopener">I Watched 3 Companies Lay Off Their Managers. All 3 Hit the Same Wall.</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2026/07/29/college-instructor-catches-students-using-ai-midterm-viral/91091359007/" rel="nofollow noopener">College instructor goes viral for catching students' AI use on midterm</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2026/07/ben-lamm-extinction-just-engineering-problem/414865/" rel="nofollow noopener">To Ben Lamm, extinction is just an engineering problem</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/ctuutti" rel="nofollow noopener">Camille Tuutti</a> for being our special guest star!</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Camille Tuutti.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 176: The Argument Dilution Effect</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2019 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about the risks of improperly testing malware, the risks of reading the wrong things, the risks of using Google services that haven’t been killed yet, and the risks of downplaying risk</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>41:36</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about the risks of improperly testing malware, the risks of reading the wrong things, the risks of using Google services that haven’t been killed yet, and the risks of downplaying risk&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  Dave tries &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/162" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Jabbrrbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  Gunnar organizes &lt;a href="https://todoist.com/r/gunnar_xbegbz" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Todoist&lt;/a&gt; by Meeting&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  D&amp;amp;G This Week in Irony: &lt;a href="https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.5046925/man-angry-his-photo-was-used-to-prove-all-hipsters-look-alike-then-learns-it-wasn-t-him-1.5046933" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Man angry his photo was used to prove all hipsters look alike — then learns it wasn't him&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/google-play-malware-used-phones-motion-sensors-to-conceal-itself/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Google Play malware used phones’ motion sensors to conceal itself&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  D&amp;amp;G This Week in Vendor Abandonment: &lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/04/googles-constant-product-shutdowns-are-damaging-its-brand/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Google’s constant product shutdowns are damaging its brand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  The Argument Dilution Effect: &lt;a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-drug-company-ads-downplay-risks/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;How Drug Company Ads Downplay Risks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.gq.com/story/how-to-read-good" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;How to Read 80ish Books a Year (And Actually Remember Them)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.vox.com/the-weeds" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Weeds Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/59xyan/watch-scientists-express-their-research-dance-your-phd-aaas" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Watch Scientists Express Their Research in Interpretive Dances&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://thecleverest.com/judgefakepeople/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Hot or Not for fake people&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2018/10/18/Human-Blinders-Block-Out-Distractions/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Human Blinders Block Out Distractions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>Jabbrrbox, Todoist, hipster effect, Android, Google, vendor abandonment, argument dilution effect, reading, The Weeds Podcast, interpretive dance, AI-generated people, human blinders</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about the risks of improperly testing malware, the risks of reading the wrong things, the risks of using Google services that haven’t been killed yet, and the risks of downplaying risk</p>

<ul>
<li>  Dave tries <a href="https://dgshow.org/162" rel="nofollow noopener">Jabbrrbox</a></li>
<li>  Gunnar organizes <a href="https://todoist.com/r/gunnar_xbegbz" rel="nofollow noopener">Todoist</a> by Meeting</li>
<li>  D&amp;G This Week in Irony: <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.5046925/man-angry-his-photo-was-used-to-prove-all-hipsters-look-alike-then-learns-it-wasn-t-him-1.5046933" rel="nofollow noopener">Man angry his photo was used to prove all hipsters look alike — then learns it wasn't him</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/google-play-malware-used-phones-motion-sensors-to-conceal-itself/" rel="nofollow noopener">Google Play malware used phones’ motion sensors to conceal itself</a></li>
<li>  D&amp;G This Week in Vendor Abandonment: <a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/04/googles-constant-product-shutdowns-are-damaging-its-brand/" rel="nofollow noopener">Google’s constant product shutdowns are damaging its brand</a></li>
<li>  The Argument Dilution Effect: <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-drug-company-ads-downplay-risks/" rel="nofollow noopener">How Drug Company Ads Downplay Risks</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.gq.com/story/how-to-read-good" rel="nofollow noopener">How to Read 80ish Books a Year (And Actually Remember Them)</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.vox.com/the-weeds" rel="nofollow noopener">The Weeds Podcast</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/59xyan/watch-scientists-express-their-research-dance-your-phd-aaas" rel="nofollow noopener">Watch Scientists Express Their Research in Interpretive Dances</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://thecleverest.com/judgefakepeople/" rel="nofollow noopener">Hot or Not for fake people</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2018/10/18/Human-Blinders-Block-Out-Distractions/" rel="nofollow noopener">Human Blinders Block Out Distractions</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://twitter.com/davidegts" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="http://atechnologyjobisnoexcuse.com/about" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about the risks of improperly testing malware, the risks of reading the wrong things, the risks of using Google services that haven’t been killed yet, and the risks of downplaying risk</p>

<ul>
<li>  Dave tries <a href="https://dgshow.org/162" rel="nofollow noopener">Jabbrrbox</a></li>
<li>  Gunnar organizes <a href="https://todoist.com/r/gunnar_xbegbz" rel="nofollow noopener">Todoist</a> by Meeting</li>
<li>  D&amp;G This Week in Irony: <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.5046925/man-angry-his-photo-was-used-to-prove-all-hipsters-look-alike-then-learns-it-wasn-t-him-1.5046933" rel="nofollow noopener">Man angry his photo was used to prove all hipsters look alike — then learns it wasn't him</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/google-play-malware-used-phones-motion-sensors-to-conceal-itself/" rel="nofollow noopener">Google Play malware used phones’ motion sensors to conceal itself</a></li>
<li>  D&amp;G This Week in Vendor Abandonment: <a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/04/googles-constant-product-shutdowns-are-damaging-its-brand/" rel="nofollow noopener">Google’s constant product shutdowns are damaging its brand</a></li>
<li>  The Argument Dilution Effect: <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-drug-company-ads-downplay-risks/" rel="nofollow noopener">How Drug Company Ads Downplay Risks</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.gq.com/story/how-to-read-good" rel="nofollow noopener">How to Read 80ish Books a Year (And Actually Remember Them)</a>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.vox.com/the-weeds" rel="nofollow noopener">The Weeds Podcast</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/59xyan/watch-scientists-express-their-research-dance-your-phd-aaas" rel="nofollow noopener">Watch Scientists Express Their Research in Interpretive Dances</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://thecleverest.com/judgefakepeople/" rel="nofollow noopener">Hot or Not for fake people</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2018/10/18/Human-Blinders-Block-Out-Distractions/" rel="nofollow noopener">Human Blinders Block Out Distractions</a></li>
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<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

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<li>  The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
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