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  <title>Episode 285: Location, Location, Threat Model</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about markdown, caveman, and dark software factories!</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about markdown, caveman, and dark software factories!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://warhammer40000.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Warhammer 40,000&lt;/a&gt;: “In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_Aren%27t_Real" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Birds Aren’t Real&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/13/0115243/robot-birds-deployed-by-park-to-attract-real-birds---built-by-high-school-students" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Robot Birds Deployed by Park to Attract Real Birds - Built By High School Students&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.cloudflare.com/markdown-for-agents/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Introducing Markdown for Agents&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Counterpoint: &lt;a href="https://bgslabs.org/blog/why-are-we-using-markdown/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Why the heck are we still using Markdown??&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/JuliusBrussee/caveman" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;caveman&lt;/a&gt;: why use many token when few do trick&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;See also: &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Chinese" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Classical Chinese&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dark Software Factories&lt;br&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDcgHzCBgmQ" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The 5 Levels of AI Coding (Why Most of You Won't Make It Past Level 2)&lt;/a&gt; by Nate B. Jones&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;StrongDM Software Factory: &lt;a href="https://factory.strongdm.ai/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Software Factories And The Agentic Moment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.danshapiro.com/blog/2026/01/the-five-levels-from-spicy-autocomplete-to-the-software-factory/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Five Levels: from Spicy Autocomplete to the Dark Factory&lt;/a&gt; by Dan Shapiro&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/208564/freedoms-forge-by-arthur-herman/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Freedom’s Forge&lt;/a&gt; by Arthur Herman&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXgkQ3nYeE" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;I Watched 3 Companies Lay Off Their Managers. All 3 Hit the Same Wall.&lt;/a&gt; by Nate B. Jones&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://editor.p5js.org/isohedral/full/vJa5RiZWs" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Interactive XKCD Dependency comic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/19/A-Unique-Property-For-Sale-In-Pennsylvania/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A Unique Property For Sale In Pennsylvania&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/16/Luxurious-Home-in-a-Decommissioned-Grain-Elevator/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Luxurious Home in a Decommissioned Grain Elevator&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>Warhammer 40000, Warhammer, fake birds, fake fake birds, real fake birds, Voight-Kampff, xkcd, real estate, bunkers, grain elevators, Pippi Longstocking, markdown, Cloudflare, HTML, AI, generative AI, context windows, AI agents, agentic AI, caveman, Wenyan, tokens, dark software factories, dark factories, software factories, sales factories, Nate B. Jones, W. Edwards Deming, Freedom's Forge, Arthur Herman, product management, sales, technology sales, routing, sense making, accountability</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about markdown, caveman, and dark software factories!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://warhammer40000.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Warhammer 40,000</a>: “In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.”<br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_Aren%27t_Real" rel="nofollow noopener">Birds Aren’t Real</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/13/0115243/robot-birds-deployed-by-park-to-attract-real-birds---built-by-high-school-students" rel="nofollow noopener">Robot Birds Deployed by Park to Attract Real Birds - Built By High School Students</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.cloudflare.com/markdown-for-agents/" rel="nofollow noopener">Introducing Markdown for Agents</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Counterpoint: <a href="https://bgslabs.org/blog/why-are-we-using-markdown/" rel="nofollow noopener">Why the heck are we still using Markdown??</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/JuliusBrussee/caveman" rel="nofollow noopener">caveman</a>: why use many token when few do trick<br></li>
<li>See also: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Chinese" rel="nofollow noopener">Classical Chinese</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Dark Software Factories<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDcgHzCBgmQ" rel="nofollow noopener">The 5 Levels of AI Coding (Why Most of You Won't Make It Past Level 2)</a> by Nate B. Jones<br></li>
<li>StrongDM Software Factory: <a href="https://factory.strongdm.ai/" rel="nofollow noopener">Software Factories And The Agentic Moment</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.danshapiro.com/blog/2026/01/the-five-levels-from-spicy-autocomplete-to-the-software-factory/" rel="nofollow noopener">The Five Levels: from Spicy Autocomplete to the Dark Factory</a> by Dan Shapiro<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/208564/freedoms-forge-by-arthur-herman/" rel="nofollow noopener">Freedom’s Forge</a> by Arthur Herman<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXgkQ3nYeE" rel="nofollow noopener">I Watched 3 Companies Lay Off Their Managers. All 3 Hit the Same Wall.</a> by Nate B. Jones</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://editor.p5js.org/isohedral/full/vJa5RiZWs" rel="nofollow noopener">Interactive XKCD Dependency comic</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/19/A-Unique-Property-For-Sale-In-Pennsylvania/" rel="nofollow noopener">A Unique Property For Sale In Pennsylvania</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/16/Luxurious-Home-in-a-Decommissioned-Grain-Elevator/" rel="nofollow noopener">Luxurious Home in a Decommissioned Grain Elevator</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about markdown, caveman, and dark software factories!</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://warhammer40000.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Warhammer 40,000</a>: “In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.”<br></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_Aren%27t_Real" rel="nofollow noopener">Birds Aren’t Real</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/13/0115243/robot-birds-deployed-by-park-to-attract-real-birds---built-by-high-school-students" rel="nofollow noopener">Robot Birds Deployed by Park to Attract Real Birds - Built By High School Students</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://blog.cloudflare.com/markdown-for-agents/" rel="nofollow noopener">Introducing Markdown for Agents</a><br>

<ul>
<li>Counterpoint: <a href="https://bgslabs.org/blog/why-are-we-using-markdown/" rel="nofollow noopener">Why the heck are we still using Markdown??</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/JuliusBrussee/caveman" rel="nofollow noopener">caveman</a>: why use many token when few do trick<br></li>
<li>See also: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Chinese" rel="nofollow noopener">Classical Chinese</a><br></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Dark Software Factories<br>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDcgHzCBgmQ" rel="nofollow noopener">The 5 Levels of AI Coding (Why Most of You Won't Make It Past Level 2)</a> by Nate B. Jones<br></li>
<li>StrongDM Software Factory: <a href="https://factory.strongdm.ai/" rel="nofollow noopener">Software Factories And The Agentic Moment</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.danshapiro.com/blog/2026/01/the-five-levels-from-spicy-autocomplete-to-the-software-factory/" rel="nofollow noopener">The Five Levels: from Spicy Autocomplete to the Dark Factory</a> by Dan Shapiro<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/208564/freedoms-forge-by-arthur-herman/" rel="nofollow noopener">Freedom’s Forge</a> by Arthur Herman<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXgkQ3nYeE" rel="nofollow noopener">I Watched 3 Companies Lay Off Their Managers. All 3 Hit the Same Wall.</a> by Nate B. Jones</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://editor.p5js.org/isohedral/full/vJa5RiZWs" rel="nofollow noopener">Interactive XKCD Dependency comic</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/19/A-Unique-Property-For-Sale-In-Pennsylvania/" rel="nofollow noopener">A Unique Property For Sale In Pennsylvania</a><br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neatorama.com/2026/02/16/Luxurious-Home-in-a-Decommissioned-Grain-Elevator/" rel="nofollow noopener">Luxurious Home in a Decommissioned Grain Elevator</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 234: You Are the Active Ingredient</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2022 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about clever uses of malware, cows, virtual reality, augmented reality, cryptocurrency, and the Denver Broncos (not all at the same time)</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>31:03</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about clever uses of malware, cows, virtual reality, augmented reality, cryptocurrency, and the Denver Broncos (not all at the same time)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.lowes.com/pd/Chamberlain-Universal-2-Button-Keychain-Garage-Door-Opener-Remote/1000133147" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Keychain garage door openers&lt;/a&gt;: they’re great!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://lifehacker.com/how-to-see-your-uber-passenger-ratings-breakdown-and-i-1848547158" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;How to See Your Uber Passenger Ratings Breakdown (and Improve Your Score)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://lifehacker.com/how-to-download-everything-amazon-knows-about-you-its-1848412242" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;How to Download Everything Amazon Knows About You (It's a Lot)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave endorsed: &lt;a href="https://www.grammarly.com/premium" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Grammarly Premium&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ios-malware-can-fake-iphone-shut-downs-to-snoop-on-camera-microphone/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;iOS malware can fake iPhone shut downs to snoop on camera, microphone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/07/farmer-gives-cooped-up-cows-vr-headsets-to-increase-milk-production-15880604/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Farmer gives cows VR headsets to reduce anxiety and increase milk production&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/19/-buythebroncos-dao-aims-to-raise-4-billion-to-buy-denver-broncos.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;These crypto enthusiasts are trying to raise $4 billion to buy the Denver Broncos&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.buythebroncos.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;BuyTheBroncos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/upland-augmented-reality-real-estate" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Who owns your address in AR? Probably not you.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.superworldapp.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Superworld&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/this-clever-device-detects-the-amount-of-metal-in-music-d08509982627" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;This Clever Device Detects the Amount of Metal in Music&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://homesandhues.com/p/atlas-missile-silo-for-sale-cheap" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Atlas Missile Silo for Sale, Cheap&lt;/a&gt; ($380K)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Zeebo-Placebo-Designed-Experience-Well-being/dp/B00NUKW26M" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Zeebo – Honest Placebo Pills Designed to Help You Create a Safe Experience on Your Path to Well-Being&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>garage door openers, Uber, Amazon, personally identifiable information, PII, ratings, Grammarly, Grammarly Premium, iOS, malware, fake shutdown, farmers, cows, VR, milk, milk production, cryptocurrencies, Denver Broncos, Denver, augmented reality, AR, real estate, AR real estate, Superworld, metal, music, metal detector, missile silos, Zeebo, placebos, placebo pills</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about clever uses of malware, cows, virtual reality, augmented reality, cryptocurrency, and the Denver Broncos (not all at the same time)</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.lowes.com/pd/Chamberlain-Universal-2-Button-Keychain-Garage-Door-Opener-Remote/1000133147" rel="nofollow noopener">Keychain garage door openers</a>: they’re great!</li>
<li><a href="https://lifehacker.com/how-to-see-your-uber-passenger-ratings-breakdown-and-i-1848547158" rel="nofollow noopener">How to See Your Uber Passenger Ratings Breakdown (and Improve Your Score)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lifehacker.com/how-to-download-everything-amazon-knows-about-you-its-1848412242" rel="nofollow noopener">How to Download Everything Amazon Knows About You (It's a Lot)</a></li>
<li>Dave endorsed: <a href="https://www.grammarly.com/premium" rel="nofollow noopener">Grammarly Premium</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ios-malware-can-fake-iphone-shut-downs-to-snoop-on-camera-microphone/" rel="nofollow noopener">iOS malware can fake iPhone shut downs to snoop on camera, microphone</a></li>
<li><a href="https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/07/farmer-gives-cooped-up-cows-vr-headsets-to-increase-milk-production-15880604/" rel="nofollow noopener">Farmer gives cows VR headsets to reduce anxiety and increase milk production</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/19/-buythebroncos-dao-aims-to-raise-4-billion-to-buy-denver-broncos.html" rel="nofollow noopener">These crypto enthusiasts are trying to raise $4 billion to buy the Denver Broncos</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.buythebroncos.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">BuyTheBroncos</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/upland-augmented-reality-real-estate" rel="nofollow noopener">Who owns your address in AR? Probably not you.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.superworldapp.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Superworld</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/this-clever-device-detects-the-amount-of-metal-in-music-d08509982627" rel="nofollow noopener">This Clever Device Detects the Amount of Metal in Music</a></li>
<li><a href="https://homesandhues.com/p/atlas-missile-silo-for-sale-cheap" rel="nofollow noopener">Atlas Missile Silo for Sale, Cheap</a> ($380K)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Zeebo-Placebo-Designed-Experience-Well-being/dp/B00NUKW26M" rel="nofollow noopener">Zeebo – Honest Placebo Pills Designed to Help You Create a Safe Experience on Your Path to Well-Being</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about clever uses of malware, cows, virtual reality, augmented reality, cryptocurrency, and the Denver Broncos (not all at the same time)</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.lowes.com/pd/Chamberlain-Universal-2-Button-Keychain-Garage-Door-Opener-Remote/1000133147" rel="nofollow noopener">Keychain garage door openers</a>: they’re great!</li>
<li><a href="https://lifehacker.com/how-to-see-your-uber-passenger-ratings-breakdown-and-i-1848547158" rel="nofollow noopener">How to See Your Uber Passenger Ratings Breakdown (and Improve Your Score)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lifehacker.com/how-to-download-everything-amazon-knows-about-you-its-1848412242" rel="nofollow noopener">How to Download Everything Amazon Knows About You (It's a Lot)</a></li>
<li>Dave endorsed: <a href="https://www.grammarly.com/premium" rel="nofollow noopener">Grammarly Premium</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ios-malware-can-fake-iphone-shut-downs-to-snoop-on-camera-microphone/" rel="nofollow noopener">iOS malware can fake iPhone shut downs to snoop on camera, microphone</a></li>
<li><a href="https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/07/farmer-gives-cooped-up-cows-vr-headsets-to-increase-milk-production-15880604/" rel="nofollow noopener">Farmer gives cows VR headsets to reduce anxiety and increase milk production</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/19/-buythebroncos-dao-aims-to-raise-4-billion-to-buy-denver-broncos.html" rel="nofollow noopener">These crypto enthusiasts are trying to raise $4 billion to buy the Denver Broncos</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.buythebroncos.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">BuyTheBroncos</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/upland-augmented-reality-real-estate" rel="nofollow noopener">Who owns your address in AR? Probably not you.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.superworldapp.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Superworld</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.hackster.io/news/this-clever-device-detects-the-amount-of-metal-in-music-d08509982627" rel="nofollow noopener">This Clever Device Detects the Amount of Metal in Music</a></li>
<li><a href="https://homesandhues.com/p/atlas-missile-silo-for-sale-cheap" rel="nofollow noopener">Atlas Missile Silo for Sale, Cheap</a> ($380K)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Zeebo-Placebo-Designed-Experience-Well-being/dp/B00NUKW26M" rel="nofollow noopener">Zeebo – Honest Placebo Pills Designed to Help You Create a Safe Experience on Your Path to Well-Being</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 226: Plowshares into Swords</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</author>
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  <itunes:author>David Egts &amp; Gunnar Hellekson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week Dave and Gunnar talk about appreciating our listeners, gassing bank robbers, wardriving smart meters!</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>34:04</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gunnar&lt;/a&gt; talk about appreciating our listeners, gassing bank robbers, wardriving smart meters&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marriott &lt;a href="https://www.marriottvacationclub.com/mvcpulse/washington-dc.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;misses&lt;/a&gt; Dave&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New &lt;a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/microsoft-ergonomic-keyboard/93841ngdwr1h" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/hogwarts-castle-71043" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Hogwarts Castle Lego&lt;/a&gt; is a journey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;D&amp;amp;G Viewer Mail

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Uzoma Nwosu&lt;/a&gt; rejoices&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Norm Joseph&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph/status/1426932057414975488" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;endorses&lt;/a&gt; Norms&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dr. David A. Wheeler&lt;/a&gt; says: “Podcast didn’t mention by name “&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_war" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Law(s) of War&lt;/a&gt;”, yet I think that’s what you meant”&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pyrotechnic-Aspyhxiation-Burglar Alarm, or P.A.B. Alarm: &lt;a href="https://gizmodo.com/this-anti-burglar-device-from-1923-was-inspired-by-horr-1846277539" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;This Anti-Burglar Device From 1923 Was Inspired by Horrific Gas Warfare of World War I&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;D&amp;amp;G AI Mr. Potato Head of the Week: &lt;a href="https://massless.io/tool/face-maker-ai/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Face Maker AI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.dailydot.com/debug/hacker-smart-meter-texas-snowstorm/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Exclusive: Hacker reveals smart meters are spilling secrets about the Texas snowstorm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong-simulated-mars-mission" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;NASA is Recruiting for Yearlong Simulated Mars Mission&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Biosphere 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/13/spaceship-earth-arizona-biosphere-2-lockdown" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Eight go mad in Arizona: how a lockdown experiment went horribly wrong&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11394188/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Spaceship Earth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Steve Bannon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cutting Room Floor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7eq3a/mcmansion-with-shocking-infrastructure-secret-can-be-yours-for-dollar989000" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;McMansion With Shocking Infrastructure Secret Can Be Yours for $989,000&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SOLD! &lt;a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nuclear-bunker-devon-sale-salcombe-b1809072.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Underground nuclear bunker with 56 bedrooms goes on sale for £435,000&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hyperallergic.com/436010/triste-tropique-topographies-of-sadness-damien-rudd/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A Compendium of Places with Sad Names, from Despair Island to Mount Hopeless&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;See also: &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We Give Thanks&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Uzoma Nwosu&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Norm Joseph&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dr. David A. Wheeler&lt;/a&gt; for the gift of feedback!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The D&amp;amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics! &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about appreciating our listeners, gassing bank robbers, wardriving smart meters</p>

<ul>
<li>Marriott <a href="https://www.marriottvacationclub.com/mvcpulse/washington-dc.html" rel="nofollow noopener">misses</a> Dave</li>
<li>New <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/microsoft-ergonomic-keyboard/93841ngdwr1h" rel="nofollow noopener">Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/hogwarts-castle-71043" rel="nofollow noopener">Hogwarts Castle Lego</a> is a journey</li>
<li>D&amp;G Viewer Mail

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" rel="nofollow noopener">Uzoma Nwosu</a> rejoices</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" rel="nofollow noopener">Norm Joseph</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph/status/1426932057414975488" rel="nofollow noopener">endorses</a> Norms</li>
<li><a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" rel="nofollow noopener">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> says: “Podcast didn’t mention by name “<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_war" rel="nofollow noopener">Law(s) of War</a>”, yet I think that’s what you meant”</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Pyrotechnic-Aspyhxiation-Burglar Alarm, or P.A.B. Alarm: <a href="https://gizmodo.com/this-anti-burglar-device-from-1923-was-inspired-by-horr-1846277539" rel="nofollow noopener">This Anti-Burglar Device From 1923 Was Inspired by Horrific Gas Warfare of World War I</a></li>
<li>D&amp;G AI Mr. Potato Head of the Week: <a href="https://massless.io/tool/face-maker-ai/" rel="nofollow noopener">Face Maker AI</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dailydot.com/debug/hacker-smart-meter-texas-snowstorm/" rel="nofollow noopener">Exclusive: Hacker reveals smart meters are spilling secrets about the Texas snowstorm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong-simulated-mars-mission" rel="nofollow noopener">NASA is Recruiting for Yearlong Simulated Mars Mission</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2" rel="nofollow noopener">Biosphere 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/13/spaceship-earth-arizona-biosphere-2-lockdown" rel="nofollow noopener">Eight go mad in Arizona: how a lockdown experiment went horribly wrong</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11394188/" rel="nofollow noopener">Spaceship Earth</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon" rel="nofollow noopener">Steve Bannon</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7eq3a/mcmansion-with-shocking-infrastructure-secret-can-be-yours-for-dollar989000" rel="nofollow noopener">McMansion With Shocking Infrastructure Secret Can Be Yours for $989,000</a></li>
<li>SOLD! <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nuclear-bunker-devon-sale-salcombe-b1809072.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Underground nuclear bunker with 56 bedrooms goes on sale for £435,000</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hyperallergic.com/436010/triste-tropique-topographies-of-sadness-damien-rudd/" rel="nofollow noopener">A Compendium of Places with Sad Names, from Despair Island to Mount Hopeless</a>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" rel="nofollow noopener">Uzoma Nwosu</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" rel="nofollow noopener">Norm Joseph</a>, and <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" rel="nofollow noopener">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> for the gift of feedback!</li>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave" rel="nofollow noopener">Dave</a> and <a href="https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar" rel="nofollow noopener">Gunnar</a> talk about appreciating our listeners, gassing bank robbers, wardriving smart meters</p>

<ul>
<li>Marriott <a href="https://www.marriottvacationclub.com/mvcpulse/washington-dc.html" rel="nofollow noopener">misses</a> Dave</li>
<li>New <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/microsoft-ergonomic-keyboard/93841ngdwr1h" rel="nofollow noopener">Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/hogwarts-castle-71043" rel="nofollow noopener">Hogwarts Castle Lego</a> is a journey</li>
<li>D&amp;G Viewer Mail

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" rel="nofollow noopener">Uzoma Nwosu</a> rejoices</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" rel="nofollow noopener">Norm Joseph</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph/status/1426932057414975488" rel="nofollow noopener">endorses</a> Norms</li>
<li><a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" rel="nofollow noopener">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> says: “Podcast didn’t mention by name “<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_war" rel="nofollow noopener">Law(s) of War</a>”, yet I think that’s what you meant”</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Pyrotechnic-Aspyhxiation-Burglar Alarm, or P.A.B. Alarm: <a href="https://gizmodo.com/this-anti-burglar-device-from-1923-was-inspired-by-horr-1846277539" rel="nofollow noopener">This Anti-Burglar Device From 1923 Was Inspired by Horrific Gas Warfare of World War I</a></li>
<li>D&amp;G AI Mr. Potato Head of the Week: <a href="https://massless.io/tool/face-maker-ai/" rel="nofollow noopener">Face Maker AI</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dailydot.com/debug/hacker-smart-meter-texas-snowstorm/" rel="nofollow noopener">Exclusive: Hacker reveals smart meters are spilling secrets about the Texas snowstorm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong-simulated-mars-mission" rel="nofollow noopener">NASA is Recruiting for Yearlong Simulated Mars Mission</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2" rel="nofollow noopener">Biosphere 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/13/spaceship-earth-arizona-biosphere-2-lockdown" rel="nofollow noopener">Eight go mad in Arizona: how a lockdown experiment went horribly wrong</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11394188/" rel="nofollow noopener">Spaceship Earth</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon" rel="nofollow noopener">Steve Bannon</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Cutting Room Floor</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7eq3a/mcmansion-with-shocking-infrastructure-secret-can-be-yours-for-dollar989000" rel="nofollow noopener">McMansion With Shocking Infrastructure Secret Can Be Yours for $989,000</a></li>
<li>SOLD! <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nuclear-bunker-devon-sale-salcombe-b1809072.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Underground nuclear bunker with 56 bedrooms goes on sale for £435,000</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hyperallergic.com/436010/triste-tropique-topographies-of-sadness-damien-rudd/" rel="nofollow noopener">A Compendium of Places with Sad Names, from Despair Island to Mount Hopeless</a>

<ul>
<li>See also: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.instagram.com/sadtopographies/</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>We Give Thanks</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/uzomanwosu" rel="nofollow noopener">Uzoma Nwosu</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/normanjoseph" rel="nofollow noopener">Norm Joseph</a>, and <a href="https://dgshow.org/guests/dwheeler" rel="nofollow noopener">Dr. David A. Wheeler</a> for the gift of feedback!</li>
<li>The D&amp;G Show Slack Clubhouse for the discussion topics!</li>
</ul>]]>
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